reza

Okay good news, the goodridge engineer (Jeff) called me, and he said all the batch along with mine are not good.
The poor workers don't follow assembly correctly.
He is fixing mine now, and hopefully finnish today for overnight tommorow, then I should be in time for racing on Sunday.



Shame on MazdaComp.

Reza

TomsRX7

See, I knew they would fix it no questions asked. When I post something in a thread, I know I'm right. Otherwise, I won't post to begin with or I will put a disclaimer out there that I'm not 100% sure. Not trying to be conceded here, just making the point that Mazdacomp was full of **** (probably just laziness) when they said they have been selling them for YEARS without a problem. I had the problem, you had the problem, and even Goodridge themselves admitted the whole batch was made wrong.

Having seen their assembly plant with my own 2 eyes, I know they are hand made and humans are not perfect. Anyway, glad I was able to steer you in the right direction and help you out.

-Tom

7racer

Reza!

congrats!!

Now that is good service! Did he happen to mention the batch number? I am just wondering if I should send mine back also before the install??

Also, if you do get a good contact....PM me the name...I might call him also.

reza

That is the name, Jeff. I did not get his last name.
But he is very helpful.

What I did send to them are these:

1. All original lines, and the related SS braided lines. I tie wrap them together so the engineer can see which goes where.
2. I took about 20 photos on installation in car, to show that the angle are wrong.
3. I wrote 1 page letter explaining to them what I want to see, and ask for their help in helping me solve their problem.

I think they like what I showed them, Jeff said nothing else, since he saw the evidence in front of him.

two thumbs up to Goodridge.
He mention that these were hand made, thus some worker may not follow instruction correctly.

Reza

reza

argggghhhhhhhhhh.....those goodridge still could not make a good copy of stock brake lines.

I still have to twist the damn thing to fit.
Before I got to twist a little bit on all four corner, now only two corner. But could they have made a better job?

Anyone knows what other brake lines better than Goodridge?
I heard Earl's where to get those?

Thanks,
Reza

7racer

holy sh#$! that sucks to hear.....

I don't know what to tell you....but i should be installing my brakes soon....will let you know.

reza

Let me know how yours go.

I am just going to tossed these lines away probably in a short time.

I have now spent more money on brake fluid each time I have to do the job. So far 5 bottle of Motul at $14 each. That is $70. That is more than the brake lines cost $60 at MazdaComp.

Add on my wasted time to do this job. At least 2 hours to prep, replace and bleed. I did this twice already. 4 hours. plus a week downtime for sending the lines out to them.

Ughhh...

Reza

PS: Check these photos out, scary...
http://public.fotki.com/jyoteen/goodridge_stainless/

TomsRX7

Reza, I remember the same thing when I first started putting mine in. But after closer inspection and playing with them, I realized that there had to be a bit of a twist on the end to allow for the supension moving upward or downward. If you mount one end to the hard brake line and then grab the loose end, move it up and down. You will see that due to the angles involved and the way the teflon tubing flexes, the end rotates a bit. So while is may seem like a little bit of a stress when the car is jacked up, when you lower the car it should sit in a neautral / stress free position. And lastly, the mounting piece that is in the middle of the hose, that part it movable; you can rotate or move it to the exact position you need it.

In any case, the bottom line is that if you lay the factory and Goodridge line side by side, the ends (not the middle section- cuz it's adjustable) should be clocked (rotated) exactly the same. If not, send em back again.

Good luck,
Tom

reza

I am tired of this deal, no other parts has given me so much problem...I don't want to do it all over again.

You maybe right though on the suspension travel thing.
I know about the middle one, you just have to turn it until it matched the hole on the shock support.

Funny thing is that when I pulled out the first set after a week use, the SS braided line stays in the shape, I mean the twisted shape, it did not really untwist.
Unlike the stock/rubber brake lines, the stock ones would just go straight.
The ss braided keeps in the twisted S curved shape after taken off. Funny, maybe the teflon deformed over time and heat/cold

Reza

7racer

Whoa....

Reza...those pics are scary...

but they don't look like the SS lines that I got from the RX-7 store...

The ends are different. Strange.

TomsRX7

http://public.fotki.com/jyoteen/goodridge_stainless/

Wow!!! I didn't notice the pics before; I just looked at them. With that kind of damage, it's obvious that they were forced in. You're lucky you didn't lose the fluid and your brakes!! As I said in my previous post, they have to sit in a neautral/stress free position. So if you could not install them that way, you should have stopped right there and put the factory lines back in. Why would you chance your brakes/car/life???

reza

Those are not mine.
But those are samples of what happened to a goodridge brake lines.
I don't think that happened immediately, because the lines looks a bit old/used. Judging from the posting dates on that person website, I approximate about 2.5 months after he puts it in.

I think that one is older goodridge lines.
Mine looks similar to that one, except not the end has white plastic, I think goodridge put it in so that in a bend or twist, it still have a radius instead of 90 degree twist/bend.

Here are mine, before I sent them to goodridge. The new ones similar to that one, except the plastic is grey.

http://www.berudu.com/rx-7/Photos/Ja...3/DSCN2714.JPG

7racer

damn those are mine exactly....i will probably have the same problem as you

TomsRX7

Hehehehe, ok, I take it back then. However that other person is, he is a nut . He could have had a major accident, ruined his car, and even his life.

Oh well, if you were local to me, I'd come there and help you out buddy.

-Tom

GoRacer

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Wow, what happened to them? Maybe they switched to a cheaper country for assembly. I've had the teflon covered SS ones on my CRX since '92.

reza

I think the amount of twist and play in suspension will take toll on the teflon line, since its stiff not actually made to twist/bend.
That is my guess though...

7racer

Ok,

I finally got my ss goodridge brake lines installed here in Dallas by Don Marvel and David of Marvelspeed.

GREAT service BTW.

I watch and tried to help with the install and can mention some things about the twisting.

Mine lines fit perfectly without ANY problems NO twists.

Some things david noticed was that the top of the end of the 'nuts' are slightly rounded that lets it "key" into the support bracket...this allows the nut to seat deeper and for the spring clip to fit....BUT one was a PITA and did not seem to sit...

basically, we lined up the ss line...and using two wrenches held the one on the line still (as this one does not rotate) and tightened the other fitting (as this rotates). This kept the line from twisting....

Does this make sense?

DamonB

It makes complete sense. The pics at http://public.fotki.com/jyoteen/goodridge_stainless/ look to me like the fittings were severely twisted at the banjo ends. With the lines installed properly in the keepers as you describe this will not happen.

reza

that is not my problem though.
In trying to put it into the support, there is a twist needed to align the hex-round thing into its hole.
on the rear its not a problem, but the front is.

I normally put the hex-round thing into the support first then put in the hard brake lines in later.

reza