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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 03:58 PM
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Brake fluid

WJay type do you guys use opn your stock brakes? The light has com eup and I need more.
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Old Nov 12, 2004 | 04:16 PM
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I've always used Castrol LMA brake fluid from Pep Boys. Works just fine for me.

Most of the super-heavy-duty brake fluids (Motul, etc.) that are really pricey are only necessary if you're REALLY giving the brakes a workout, like on the track. I prefer using something of good quality that's easily available and fairly priced.

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Old Nov 23, 2004 | 09:41 PM
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For a daily driver that doesn't get brake flushes at least every 2-years (preferably every year in the Spring), I would use ATE Type 200 or ATE Super Blue. They have a higher dry boiling point than Castrol LMA, and more importantly have a higher wet boiling point as well.

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Old Nov 28, 2004 | 10:59 PM
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Ditto same here. ATE super blue. then alternate with (yellow) ATE Type 200.

p.s. get a pressure bleeder.
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Old Nov 29, 2004 | 06:15 AM
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I just finished a Brake Master Cylinder replacement and had to completely flush the brake system with new fluid. I highly recommend a system flushing every 2 years if not every year. It had been several years, 4+, since my car had its entire brake system flushed with new fluid. The crud that builds up in the lines needs to be flushed out.

You can use anything that is DOT 3 compatible, no real need to spend the big bucks on racing quality fluids, especially if you do the proper maintenance and flush your system every 2 years. You can find some Synthetic fluids that meet DOT 3 & 4 specs and have higher dry and wet boiling points without spending a lot of money on racing quality stuff. In fact I would say do not get the ATE or MOTUL products if they will give you an excuse not to change your fluids and maintain your system properly.

It takes about an hour to flush the system and is worth the effort.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 02:06 AM
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Has anyone ever dealt with Apex Performance? They have ATE Super Blue for $9.85 a liter, which is the best price I found during a quick search.

http://www.apexperformance.net/cartg...t.asp?scat=289

Is this stuff truly blue?

[Edit] HRP has it for $9.95/liter, and I know they're reputable.

http://www.hrpworld.com/index.cfm?fo...action=product

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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by jimlab
Is this stuff truly blue?
Yes it is truly blue, and if you run it you'll hear "man, your brake fluid is dirty" a lot. It looks dark in the reservoir.

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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 05:54 PM
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Yes it is truly blue, and if you run it you'll hear "man, your brake fluid is dirty" a lot. It looks dark in the reservoir.
So it's not a lighter "translucent" blue, I take it. Oh well, it matches the paint.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by jimlab
So it's not a lighter "translucent" blue, I take it. Oh well, it matches the paint.
Nope, it's fairly dark blue. Also, ATE sells another version (ATE Typ 200) which is light gold in color but has the same specs -- useful for changing out brake fluid.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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For us old farts, SuperBlue is about the color of the ink you used to fill fountain pens with.
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 10:40 PM
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if your not tracking it much but autox i reccomend ATE SuperBlue/Typ 200. For a car that gets some track abuse (for example Gingerman raceway here in michigan with 4-5 100+ to 45ish stops per lap lol) i'd reccomend Neo Syntetics Brake fluid. It's cheeper then Motul RBF600 and has a higher boiling point
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Old Feb 7, 2005 | 11:59 PM
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I would just put in some Valvoline Synpower, which you can buy off the shelf. Its compatable with all other "off the shelf" brands, and exceeds a DOT 4 rating. Its more than ample for a street driven car. And in my opinion, running anything with a higher rating in a purely street driven car is overkill.
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 12:16 AM
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Originally Posted by rynberg
Nope, it's fairly dark blue. Also, ATE sells another version (ATE Typ 200) which is light gold in color but has the same specs -- useful for changing out brake fluid.
I knew that, but I wondered how dark the "super blue" was.

Anyone want a mostly full case of Motul 600?
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 12:17 AM
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Originally Posted by ROTARYFDTT
in my opinion, running anything with a higher rating in a purely street driven car is overkill.
Perhaps you're not familiar with my car...
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Old Feb 8, 2005 | 01:08 AM
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Originally Posted by jimlab
Perhaps you're not familiar with my car...
Well Jim now that you mention it. I was actually taking into account street driven cars that trap at 130 plus (like your car, whenever it makes a pass ) when I wrote that response. But I didn't really feel the need, nor want to get technical. However since you've brought it up, I suppose I can elaborate. In such cases I would upgrade my brake fluid along with the rest of my braking system. Hence the term "purely" street driven. I suppose it's vague, but like the famous two words to live by, it depends.

However that being said, I've done a significant number of highway pulls over this past summer, which concluded in hard breaking. I am running stock rotors, axxis metal masters pads (which are excellent & significantly cheaper than hawk), and Synpower fluid. On all occasions, the brakes performed very well with no fad I can really recall. Even after 5-6 back to back pulls.
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Old Feb 13, 2005 | 11:32 PM
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Ford dot 3 heavy duty. Good specs, cheap as can be.
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