turBRO240

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I recently got a hookup on any tire for really cheap and want to go all out.

I want to buy a DOT tire... the best freaking one people have tested out.

I mainly do spirited street driving/road course/alittle bit of sliding (not drifting, but I like to have fun whipping the back out). I want to find some real good tires that grip for turns but give me the possiblity of whipping out the back when i want. In the rear I currently have BFG Gforce DOT drag radials with 5% thread left and they still grip SO hard I really have to put some effort to whip the back out.. really pisses me off. Bad comparison (because of the torque factor) but when my friends 300rwhp vette can whip the back out without even trying and me having to put some real power and effort to whip out mine (im running single turbo 400+hp) gets to me... no fun. Although grip (ESPECIALLY IN THE FRONT) is important.

Im looking for the highest quality tires for my specific application.. and I DONT have a price limit.

Currerntly im running 235/35/17 in the front and 275/40/17 in the rears and it seems like good sizes.

Tires im looking at..

Goodyear Eagle F1 DSG3
Michelin Pilot Sport
Toyo Proxes R888 (dont know if theyre DOT?)

Share any info or tires you got... preferably stuff thats already been tested/proven.

azn akira

for a street tire i'd recommend advan neova ad07 or bridgestone re01r. those are the best street tires

if you want a DOT r-compound tire i'd suggest nitto nt01 or toyo ra1

turBRO240

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The best possible/highest priced(it dosent matter) tire that has been test proven.

My main concern is getting the best tires for grip for the front. The rear is also important, but I dont have a huge problem with that.

I trust alot of you track guys with tire selection.

ptrhahn

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What are your rim sizes? You might try a wider front tire if you've got the rim width available.

I'm not sure there is a "price no object best" tire... but there are a top 2-3, and they've been mentioned. I'm also not sure what you mean by "DOT" Do you mean R-compound (which are typically DOT legal, even though they really aren't for street use), or a true street tire?

turBRO240

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I run 17x10 all around... its a little too wide in the front.. ill get some new wheels soon... but thats what I got for now.

I think ill go with the R-compounds. I just want to get the best possible tire since I have the chance. What pulling me away from the R-compounds is that since there much more on the track side, tire life is probably cut down to half of the best performance street tires.


Im now looking at Toyo Proxes R888, Toyo RA1, or Nitto NT01

Black91n/a

If you want more front grip then run wider front tires. Say you want to keep a stagger, then maybe 255/40/17 front and 275/40/17 rear, or 265/35/18 front and 285/30/18 rear, maybe something along those lines.

All of those R compound tires you listed there should last a reasonable amount of time on the street, but they're likely to get hard and loose grip before they wear out, this is from too many heat cycles. There's also Pirelli PZero Corsas, Michelin Pilot Sport Cups and Yokohama Advan A048's, all are R's that come from the factory on Lotus, Porsche, Ferrari and the like. Beware that wet grip on any of these R's will be compromized, especially at lower tread depths, as most will go to nearly a slick at half tread depth.

Healing

Potenza RE-01R's have been getting a lot of attention lately, and are very popular with many Japanese tuner shops.

rxtuner79

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I just got the Potenza RE-01R in 195/50/15 for the front, but I still have Falken Ziex 215/60/15 in the back. The only reason I did that is because the Falkens were still like new and my other two were worn, so I decided to give the Bridgestone's a try.

I don't have a lot of racing experience, but I know what my car can and can't do. These tires turned it into a whole different beast. On a road where going 50 mph would make me feel borderline uncomfortable, I now drive 45-50 on it and it doesn't even feel fast at all. When I'm pushing it, they feel like they never want to let go. I havent slid out on them yet, but when they start to lose traciton they let you know little by little. It's antually kind of wierd. You can feel them starting to slip but they still pull you around the corners just as hard. They are extremely predictable at the limit, and are even great in the rain. I haven't driven them in the snow yet, so I can't comment on that.

Like I said, I don't have a lot of racing experience so take this with a grain of salt. But the RE-01R's are worth every penny and I can't wait to get them on the back as well.

turBRO240

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I looked at the reviews and everything for the A048s and they look like amazing track tires, but just too hardcore for street (extremley noisy and wear out way too quick). Right now I have the BFG T/A Drag Raidials in the back and theyre down to a slick and I still CANT loose traction (even when I want to, and that sucks). For now I just want to replace the rears because theyre competly gone. Im running brand new Falken Ziex ZE912 (255/40/17) in the front and they do alright for the cheap **** they are.

Possible options are Toyo R888(replaced the RA1s), Bridgestone RA01Rs, and Michelin Pilot Sport PS2s. Im leaning more towards the Pilot Sport side since its on the Porsche Carrera GT and 911 from the factory.

Is it OK to run differnt type tires in the front and back? (what im potentially going to run)



also... can anyone identify the model of these Advan tires?

Specter328

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Those are Advan AO32R's

Roen

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best R-compound?

40 treadwear category: Kumho V710 (I'm not really keen on driving this tire on the street because of treadwear and/or rain)
100 treadwear categroy: Toyo R888 or Nitto NT-01. Yokohama A048 is a distant third.

Those are the previous generation of the Yokohama 100 treadwear R-compounds. The current generation is the A048, which already has two tires out performing it.

Street tires?
180 treadwear category: Yokohama Advan Neova AD07 is still king. Bridgestone RE-01R is a close second (Some models 140 treadwear). Falken Azenis RT-615 is a distant third (200 treadwear).

Do not drive any of these tires in the snow, you should be cautious if the temperature will dip below 40 degrees F. That should be the minimum threshold of acceptable grip.

The new Kumho Ecsta XS is coming out soon, which is rumored to be the Bridgestone Killer. Dunlop has a new street tire offering as well. All of this is moot, however, as come 2009, Bridgestone will be coming out with their RE-01R replacement, the RE-11, finally in 205/50/15 for us autocrossers!

You want to run a consistent tire on all 4 corners, as not to throw off your cornering and handling due to differences in the tires' abilities. Based on your list, I'd go with the R888's if money is not an obstacle.

GoodfellaFD3S

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Wait, cost is no object but you only want to replace the rears?

And you want the best grip available in the front, yet are running skinny subpar quality tires?

Am I missing something here ?

matty

i want awesome tracrtion but i want the rear to break loose....interesting post

turBRO240

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I will think about the front tires a little later, I put on the Falkens less than a month ago.... im now looking at rears for now, something with the best possibly grip that will let me slide out here and there (without rain/water). My BFG Drags hold so hard with NO THREAD right now that I have to hit rev limiter to do a 180... donuts even worse.

Reon.... thanks for the info. I wanted to run the R888s in the first place, but thought its a little to hardcore for the street (thread wear wise), same with the A048s.

Aright... now its down to R888 and Nitto NT01.

I know that they are 100tread tires, but once the thread is gone will they be compete ****? My current BFG Drag Radials have absolutly no tread on them but the hold like theres no tommorow. Just wanted to know before I purchase 100tread tires for a almost DD 400+hp car.

Specter328

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Why are you choosing R-Comps if you don't want traction?

turBRO240

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Ofcourse I want traction and grip... but I just want to make sure its not IMPOSSIBLE to loose it in the rear. Hence me asking if I can run different tires in the front and back.

Risky Devil

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Potenza RE01r
Dunlop Direzza
Advan Neova

OC_

Ok, what your talking about is the balance of the car. What I think your saying is you don't want your tire setup to produce a lot of understeer.

If you can, i would recommend you just find the biggest tire that can fit on your car, which sounds like wider tires in the back; then, tune your suspension to get rid of the oversteer.

I can tell you, your not going to want DOT-race tires for the street. They become hard and slippery so fast... Race tires are made for racing.

connor@tirerack

1) 225/45/18 Bridgestone Potenza RE-01R ......... 223.00 ea
2) 225/45/18 Yokohama ADVAN NEOVA AD07......... 263.00 ea

GoodfellaFD3S

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Connor,

no FD owner with 18 inch rims will want sizes that narrow.....that is the same width as stock!

Typically you'll see guys running something along the lines of 18x9 and 18x10 with 255/35 and 285/30.

Just a friendly FYI!

BLUE TII

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Toyo RA1 and the new R888 will not heat cycle out even with daily driving.

I am on my 2nd set of RA1 daily driving and they are awsome on the street except for all the bits of road that sticks to them and gets flung against the car.

They will wear down to cord with 10-20,000 miles of street driving and still have awsome grip compared to a max performance street tire the whole time.

Once the street tread is gone they do hydroplane easily, otherwise they are awsome in the rain and they don't have their usual super grip when the pavement is freezing- so watch that.

dgeesaman

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[quote=turBRO240;7740911]
Goodyear Eagle F1 DSG3[QUOTE]
Probably the most tame of the bunch. Great tire though.

Good street tire also. The Eagle F1 is so good in rain the just beats out the Michelin PS in my mind.

They are DOT. They are a decent choice among r-comps that are slightly streetable. They should last at least a few oil changes and are much more aggressive than the previous two.

Consider this: if you're interested in a tire that you can hog around on and burn out, an R-comp will be a bad idea. You'll have two good tires and two corded ones very quickly. The more aggressive the tire, the less abuse they can handle. The street tires will also communicate the limits of grip much more readily than an r-comp. It took me a while to find the limits again when I switched to r-comps, and that was on a closed course with no distractions or other variables. If I made that transition on the street there would have been crumpled metal.

I'm also concerned that you think tire compound choice may affect how much power oversteer you will generate. (Aka "slide out the back end"). When you develop more understanding of vehicle dynamics, you'll find that no matter what grip level of tire you have they all behave in basically the same manner - it's only a matter of grip level and different feel as you approach the limits of grip. In other words, at the limits of grip it's how you drive that makes the back end do things, not the tire. I can spin my rear wheels with any tire - it's just a matter of how I use the clutch - and I have only 250hp. The truth is that a less grippy tire will do this more readily than a good sticky one. Buying a barely-DOT tire will make silly kiddo burnouts more difficult.

Dave

matty

why am i the only person that thinks this request is ludacris?

dgeesaman

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Clearly he'll sideswipe a tree no matter what tire he's got mounted.

phinsn98

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Just mounted Pilot Sport PS2s on my wheels. I was caught between the Bridgestone RE01R and the PS2 and I just went with the established tire. The reviews for the PS2s on TireRack were consistant and I've always seen them on some of the best cars. Now that I have them I can see what everyone else was talking about.