ADR M-Sport The good the bad and the ugly
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ADR M-Sport The good the bad and the ugly
I am interested in buying these in a staggred set up: 18x8.5 F 18x9.5 R
235-40-18, 265-35-18, and heard from a one member who never replied to me on the matter that they are 2 heavy and something a bout a picture of a car with a broken rim...I am confused and want to know from those of you who either had them or heard from a source about them...on the subject of ANYTHING about them that might be usefull for both the street and track, weight and the rough roads and blah blah blah...Thanks...
235-40-18, 265-35-18, and heard from a one member who never replied to me on the matter that they are 2 heavy and something a bout a picture of a car with a broken rim...I am confused and want to know from those of you who either had them or heard from a source about them...on the subject of ANYTHING about them that might be usefull for both the street and track, weight and the rough roads and blah blah blah...Thanks...
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" ADR M-Sport Cast 18x7.5 22.2"
http://www.superhonda.com/tech/wheel_weights.html
7 lbs. heavier than stock according to that site.
http://www.superhonda.com/tech/wheel_weights.html
7 lbs. heavier than stock according to that site.
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Originally Posted by RX794
Also from what I understand if you order them in the sizes mentioned above, you'll have to use spacers, they don't come in the proper offset for FD's.
as for the ADRs, i suggest you run 225s in the front as you may rub. i'm running 225s in the front of my 18x8.5+40 wheels and i've heard a few awful noises now. consider fender rolling regardless though
oh, and the wheel weights according to 1010tires.com for them in 18s:
18x8.5: 24lbs
18x9.5: 26lbs
as for quality, no clue. i almost got them for my FD but the dealer never got back to me on prices (blessing in disguise for me :o ) i know they're heavy (as evident by the weight) and they're cast wheels.. and yeah. but great looking wheels imo.
Last edited by omochi; 09-05-05 at 11:23 PM.
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Excelent responce man....thanks alot...yeah I love the way they look and i will probably be using them for street. fun, and or just standard and yet would love to take to the track, but the whole spacer idea...well...sucks...any other wheels you guys suggest that look that great that can perform and be at around $1500 or so...
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Originally Posted by Max_Spd
Excelent responce man....thanks alot...yeah I love the way they look and i will probably be using them for street. fun, and or just standard and yet would love to take to the track, but the whole spacer idea...well...sucks...any other wheels you guys suggest that look that great that can perform and be at around $1500 or so...
as for wheels around $1500, a lot of ppl on here seem to really like the 5zigen fn01r-c's or what have you. light wheels, and cheap! but that's if you're a fan of the classic 5 spoke
however, if you dont mind waiting, just keep checking the wheel/tires section - always something there!
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I am sorry but what is the perfect offset for the f+r of the fd and yes I do like the 5 spoke wheels as well, i was looking at the hp racing a while back but they seem to be cheap so i guess not so good...thanks...
HRE and VOLK are way 2 expensive for me at this time...
HRE and VOLK are way 2 expensive for me at this time...
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SSR are the best bang-for-the-buck wheels out there, with perhaps an exception to the CCWs...You can get 17x8.5, 17x9.5 SSR Comps for about $1500/set. MUCH higher quality wheels than ADRs....
ADRs are a typical cheaply made cast wheel that has no business on a road course, and has no business being on an FD, IMO. But if you are just itching to get rid of the stock wheels, are just street driving, and have a limited budget, I guess they're an option. The 5-Zigens are pretty darn light and I haven't heard of any quality control problems with them, unlike ADRs...
ADRs are a typical cheaply made cast wheel that has no business on a road course, and has no business being on an FD, IMO. But if you are just itching to get rid of the stock wheels, are just street driving, and have a limited budget, I guess they're an option. The 5-Zigens are pretty darn light and I haven't heard of any quality control problems with them, unlike ADRs...
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Yes, I am familliar with the SSR and such, its not as much as i dont like my stock its just I want the 18" and want better handling, very little to no added weight to the driveline and something that looks good and can keep up with drag racing fun and occasional trips to the road track...
I looked at the wheel you mantioned, and i just kind of dont like the looks of them, althought they are pretty light tho...lol
I looked at the wheel you mantioned, and i just kind of dont like the looks of them, althought they are pretty light tho...lol
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Originally Posted by Max_Spd
Yes, I am familliar with the SSR and such, its not as much as i dont like my stock its just I want the 18" and want better handling, very little to no added weight to the driveline and something that looks good and can keep up with drag racing fun and occasional trips to the road track...
I looked at the wheel you mantioned, and i just kind of dont like the looks of them, althought they are pretty light tho...lol
I looked at the wheel you mantioned, and i just kind of dont like the looks of them, althought they are pretty light tho...lol
I would look for used rims, given your criteria.
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I used to be an ADR dealer, and sold MANY M-Sports to mostly Z32 guys. Looks great, but is really NOT a performance wheel. Yes, the weights are pretty darn dead on, and if you factor in the typical tires for that setup, you're looking at a HEAVY setup. It will be FAR heavier than your stock setup, period.
As for the 5Zigens, smaller sized FN01R-C's are made by the same manufacturer in Taiwan that makes the M-Sports, so beware. I used to have a set of FN01R-C's on my wife's WRX, looks great, very light, so they are indeed a good alternative to the M-Sports, but I did notice the paint have blemishes in them, and this is from sitting under a shed with a cover on top (I removed the wheels for storage when my wife complained about the stiffer ride over the stock setup).
As for offset, the M-Sports come in 35mm, both 18x8.5, and 18x9.5. You might have problems with the fronts being out a little too far, but the rears should fit.
Oh, and I used to sell M-Sports with tires mounted and balanced, shipped for less than $1500, although the tires I included aren't really great tires (Falken ZE512).
In my opinion, the 5Zigens are a better deal, despite being from the same manufacturer. If you really like the mesh design, I would save up for a real set of BBS wheels.
As for the 5Zigens, smaller sized FN01R-C's are made by the same manufacturer in Taiwan that makes the M-Sports, so beware. I used to have a set of FN01R-C's on my wife's WRX, looks great, very light, so they are indeed a good alternative to the M-Sports, but I did notice the paint have blemishes in them, and this is from sitting under a shed with a cover on top (I removed the wheels for storage when my wife complained about the stiffer ride over the stock setup).
As for offset, the M-Sports come in 35mm, both 18x8.5, and 18x9.5. You might have problems with the fronts being out a little too far, but the rears should fit.
Oh, and I used to sell M-Sports with tires mounted and balanced, shipped for less than $1500, although the tires I included aren't really great tires (Falken ZE512).
In my opinion, the 5Zigens are a better deal, despite being from the same manufacturer. If you really like the mesh design, I would save up for a real set of BBS wheels.
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Originally Posted by Max_Spd
Thanks^^
I fugered as much...however as faar as the offset what is optimal for the front with a 8.5 and rear with a 9.5 width...does anyone know???
I fugered as much...however as faar as the offset what is optimal for the front with a 8.5 and rear with a 9.5 width...does anyone know???
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...hlight=fitment
a good excel spreadsheet by jimlab wrt fitment of wheels of diff offsets.
but to answer your question, for a 8.5" front, you probably want a higher offset, at the very least in the low 40s - the higher the better of course. as for the rear, i've read of ppl running the msports (+35) with no problem, but i'd try to get a higher offset just to be safe.. i'm running +40 FWIW and it hasnt rubbed; but once again, the higher the better.
hope i'm not too off with my information.
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Thanks all of you...althought not quite understand the worksheet you referred 2, but soo faar i'm guessing that a good offset is for a 8.5 F and 9.5 R wheel is 40-45mm, which should be enough not to rub or stick out of the fender, Am i close in that conclusion...
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Originally Posted by Max_Spd
Thanks all of you...althought not quite understand the worksheet you referred 2, but soo faar i'm guessing that a good offset is for a 8.5 F and 9.5 R wheel is 40-45mm, which should be enough not to rub or stick out of the fender, Am i close in that conclusion...
as for the worksheet, it's split up into widths of the wheels. you can then enter the offset of the wheel you're looking at, and it'll give info on clearance issues for front and back
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Hello, I own a wheel and tire shop in Tampa FL. I have been a member here for quite some time but never tried to mix work with my hobby (car) as it can sometimes be a bad thing. anyway, the ADR's are a poor choice for the RX7. The offsets are wrong and will give you issues. We have a Mesh style wheel which comes in 18 x 8.5 front with a 45mm offset and 18 x 10 rear with a 45mm offset. They fit fine and you can run a 275/35-18 or 285/30-18 on the rears. I have even run a 305/30-19 on the 19 x 10 version with no rubbing. It has a 48mm offset.
We have 3 styles in 18 x 8.5 and 18 x 10 and two in 19 x 8.5 and 19 x10. we even have a 17 x8 and 17 x9 fittment. All have high offsets and our specifically designed for the RX7 and RX8. We are going to start actively marketing the wheels soon and would welcome some opinions. I will post a pic of a 3rd gen tomorrow when I get to work.
Mike
We have 3 styles in 18 x 8.5 and 18 x 10 and two in 19 x 8.5 and 19 x10. we even have a 17 x8 and 17 x9 fittment. All have high offsets and our specifically designed for the RX7 and RX8. We are going to start actively marketing the wheels soon and would welcome some opinions. I will post a pic of a 3rd gen tomorrow when I get to work.
Mike