Gun

OK here goes. I want the SSR Comps but they don't come in 17x9 only 17x8 and 17x9.5. What I was wondering was, would the 17x9.5 fit with stock suspesion or what about with stock R1 shocks and H&R springs like SleepR1 has on his R1. I know some people here have 17x9.5 with no rubbing and if you see this post the offsets. I don't want the tire sticking out past the lip I will also rolll the front fenders if I have too. I would also like the same sizes all around so I can rotate the tires. I did a search and I don't think they will fit without coilovers but that's a lot of money and I wouldn't even use half the features/settings on the coilovers so I think they'd be a waste of money for me. So what offsets and tire sizes would be the best?

thanks Gun

SleepR1

Gun,

There's no way the 9.5 x 17s will fit up front with 275/40-17 Hoosiers. The 42 mm offset won't allow it. If you could run 2 degrees or more of negative camber--PERHAPS...but I seriously doubt it.

For the record, I have SSR Comps with 8.5 x 17s with 245/45-17 Hoosiers up front, and 9.5 x 17 SSR Comps with 275/40-17 Hoosiers in back. The front is very tight, mostly due to the 25.3 inch overall diameters of the tires...no rubbing though...

If you want to rotate, you could run 8.5 x 17s all the way around with 245/40-17 Hoosiers...the offset is 42 mm for the 8.5-inch wide Comp.

One option to check out, is to call Tire Rack and see what offset their BMW E36 M3 fitment is for the SSR Comps...I know the E36 M3s run 9 x 17s all the way around with 245/40-17 Hoosiers...you need to have the Tire Rack rep check the offset and bolt pattern for the Bimmer E36 ('95 to '99 body style) M3...if that offset is 45 to 50 mm, and the bolt pattern is 5 hole on 114.3 mm, then all they'd need to do is provide you with the right size hubcentric rings (67.1 mm centerbore)...

If I were doing this again with the SSR Comps, that's what I'd DO. Being able to rotate the Hoosiers would be a big PLUS, not to mention the handling is preserved with same sized tires and wheels all the way around!!!!

Let us know what you find out from the Tire Rack...if it's all good, then you should GO FOR IT!

Manny Lozano

Gun

One other thing SleepR1, I don't think I'd be tracking the car much at all. Probally just on the street, what tires do you recommend then that aren't too expensive? I saw your post about your 17x9 SSR Integrals(I think) and you were running 255/40-17 AVS(I think). Would those ba a good choice? What else? I'll try calling tirerck and finding out. Thanks for your time.

later Gun

SleepR1

Gun,

Well, HECK! If you aren't tracking the car, don't pay the extra money for the Comps! You want strength more than you want lightweight! I run the Comps strictly for track use because the 8.5/9.5x17s are perfect matches for the 245/45- and 275/40- 17 Hoosiers...

If you're strictly a road guy (little or no track time) go with the SSR Integral A2s in 9x17, 45-mm offset. The 255/40-17s are a perfect fit on the rims, and within the FD's fr/rr wheel wells! The IA2s are fairly light for 9x17s--18.5 lbs. Sure the Comps are 2 lbs lighter, but for MUCH more money..., and the Integral A2s look MUCH better than the Comps...no kidding!

FWIW, I'll probably use the road setup--Integrals/Yokos-- during most of my lapping days, and bust out the Comps/Hoosiers when the bad boys start talking smack (those bad boys would be the Porsche 993, NSX, and C5 Z06 drivers)

Yep, so far the AVS Intermediates in 255/40-17, mounted on 9x17, 45-mm offset SSR Integral A2s have been a fantastic combination, especially considering the $106 each price for the AVS I tires.

Without having tried the Kumho Ecsta Supra 712, I'd bet the AVS I's are the best bang for the buck out there right now...like the old RE71s were--the AVS I's are oldies but goodies!

The 255/40-17 tires seem so wide to me, I'm just shocked I get no rubbing AT ALL...I guess it's because I'm still accustomed to the old 225/50-16 on 8x16 SSR IA2s...with the new road setup, my FD looks meaner, and ready to race anything on wheels!

Gun

Hey SleepR1 I tried calling abd talking to the sales reps at tirerack.com and they told me the 17x9 SSR Comps for the 95' M3 were: the offset was 45 and five hole but was 120mm. And then no matter what I tried, I talked to 2 different people, they wouldn't search for a SSR Comps to see if they carried any in the bolt pattern that you gave me for the 7(114.3mm) They said if it would fit it would be on their website, and that they guarrented fitment. So even if they do carry a SSR Comp with the specs they won't tell me because to them it won't fit. Kinda frustrating, I'm spending my money and they won't even check to see if they have it(sorry about the rant).

later Gun

SleepR1

Gun,

Well, that's too bad, the bolt pattern's not right, but the width, diameter, and offset are perfect!!

I'd still encourage you to go with SSR Integral A2s in 9x17, 45-mm offset with the AVS Intermediates in 255/40-17s. $289 each for the wheel, $106 each for the tire, $1580 for wheels AND tires...that's cheaper than a set of Comps in 8.5 and 9.5x17s which retail at $1596--and that's with NO TIRES mounted on the SSR Comps!!!

Gun

Thanks again and I probally will go with the Integrals A2s 17x9 with the AVS Antermidiates in 255/40-17. Thakns again. I'll let you know how it turns out , but you already know since you have the setup already

later Gun

SleepR1

Gun,

And I'm happy as can be with the 9x17, 45-mm offset SSR IA2s and 255/40-17 Yokohama AVS I's!!!

Let me know how YOU like them once you get everything mounted up!

--ML

Wargasm

SleepR1,

Got any pics of your car? How much RWHP are you putting down? Do 255 hold it?

I've got a single turbo T04S on my 93 and I'm in the process of tuning it. I want a tire that has a prayer of holding to the road when I punch it! hahahh!

Brian

SleepR1

No recent pics of my R1.

Mine makes stock horsepower at the wheels. The 255/40-17s do a great job...I can't get the car to come around anymore...

maxcooper

I've got 370 RWHP and 265/40-17 Bridgestone S-03 tires hold it through all of second gear, provided you are going straight and it isn't wet or really cold. First gear is a joke, but no tire will help that and it is kind of fun (I think I'll try and run lower boost in first gear with the AVC-R). I think that sticky tires are the way to go. The S-03s probably hold better than less sticky 275s, though 275 is a good size, too.

On the track, I run 285/30-18 BFG g-Force R1a tires, but you can still spin it coming out of a turn. I don't think you can fit big enough tires to prevent that with big power. It is harder to spin now than it was with 245 R1s and 320 RWHP, however.

-Max

SleepR1

Wargasm,

OK, I finally got the back end to come around. I did this in 1st gear turning onto a street, which is 90-degree left hander from a stop light.

It was completely intentional, but I guess 255 rear-wheel-hp is enough to break the traction of 255 mm section width tires

Later!

ML
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