SCCAITS

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Check it out here

http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/events/

Anyone interested? I would consider doing it. My contributions include driver ability, heck I finished 1st/21 and 2nd/19 this past weekend at SCCA races, $$$, race car fabrication experience, general wrenching and mechanical abilities, truck and trailer, etc.

What I don't have is space to prepare this project, welding or roll cage fabrication access, limited motor knowledge.

Teams are 4-6 drivers. I'd prefer to use a 2nd Gen (and have more stuff already to fit that) but a 1st Gen would work as well. It's a long ways off but if you have an interest and can contribute more than just being a driver, maybe we can put something together.

SingleTurboRx7

I got a place, we could probably do this, and have some welding/fab equipment.
plus racing experience, SCCA.
I also know of someone selling a first gen real cheap.....

SCCAITS

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Looks like we are off to a good start with a potential team. I think we can do it with 4 drivers/team members total. The more people the more complicated things get. Others interested? I should say my goal would be to win, participating is good but winning is great.

SingleTurboRx7

what are the rules for the car?

SCCAITS

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http://www.24hoursoflemons.com/rules/

Basically, you can not spend more than $500 to buy/build your car. Tires, Wheels, Brakes and safety equipment are not included in the $500.

Your car can also be crushed at the end of the competition or bought for $500 from the organization. So, don't plan on bringing it home, be lucky if you do.

Not sure if you can get your expensive seat back, lightweight wheels, etc. if they crush your car. I haven't read everything yet.

You really are building a dirt cheap race car, the key is to make it reliable. I'd replace all the possible breaking/failing parts. Maybe even put some cheap/used shocks on it, change the wheel bearings, re-do the brakes, etc. The things got to go for 24 hours!

Rx7_Nut13B

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Omg It Is On!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rx7_Nut13B

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I have a TII Chassie that is straight and ready, I do engine building also, If we can get some seals and stuff from the Rx7club I will port the irons i have and build the motor. Motors are my strong front.

13B Full BP with a Carb 300HP = The Win.

SingleTurboRx7

it says that all safty equipment is fine, the price does not effect the $500 limmit. so seats and wheels should be fine.

you think we could find an Rx7 for $500 (one that will make it)?

Rx7_Nut13B

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What does it say about free Cars, it is kinda fishy when it come to that.

SingleTurboRx7

it says you may have to prove the car is only worth $500

probably also a good idea to use a car thats good on gas

SCCAITS

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Tires, wheels, brakes, exhaust after header and safety are not included in the $500. We need to get a car and do suspension/motor and car acquisition with $500, if it goes over hope not to get caught. Be prepared to never see the car or it's parts again. Obviously we can't have any labor charges, only parts and used ones are fine. We aren't talking reservoir shocks here.

They have the BS factor which means they can nail you if they think you've spent over $500. They also have the right to buy your car for $500 at the end of the race, crush it, or if it's still alive take it home. I'd plan on not ever seeing the car again, no need for a $1000 Racetech seat.

HP isn't going to win it, you got to keep it running for 24 hours and not hit anything. That means skilled and smart drivers and getting good condition wear items (bearings, clutch, solid tranny, replacing rubber lines, maybe some bushings). There is not a lot of very long straights at MSRH, it's a 2.38 mile 17 turn track. Handling and braking are going to be very important. 300rwhp would be nice but can it take 24 hours and not cost a fortune to build? A stock motor may be fine with good compression.

You can also sell off parts to recoup your $500, so there is some margin there.

SingleTurboRx7

when they say brakes is that just pads, or the entire braking system?

how long do you think an FC will run at TH on a single tank of gas?

SCCAITS

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That's got to be the entire braking system, meaning the car needs new pads, rotors, maybe rebuilt calipers (maybe a spare set or two of pads/rotors as well), ss lines perhaps and a non-leaking master cylinder. All that stuff is cheap, except for the Hawk blue pads.

What's the tank capacity on a 1st or 2nd Gen? I run a cell so have no idea. I get around 7mpg on track with a non-ported 13b in my car. I run a 1:50 lap or so on the 2.38, that's about 32 laps an hour or 76mph. Should go through about 10-11 gallons of gas an hour roughly.

philiptompkins

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oh so now when theres a use for it its YOUR TII chassis? but when it needs to go to be parted and go to the junkyard its MINE!?!?!

Allright, well i think ya'll can count on me and chuck (RX7nut) having a team.... And its on for the dalles crew
Anyway, expect a buildup thread in the next months.

Rx7_Nut13B

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Well hell yea, think about it this way, storage fees add up to about O you know 500 bucks.....

DrKillJoY

I'll volunteer, I know the track pretty well.

BTW - Good job out there last weekend SCCAITS I was watching from the tower the whole race.

SCCAITS

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Thanks! It was a good time, will be back for NASA on Feb 9-10. Stop by if you get a chance.

Speaking of which, all you potential Lemon drivers should be at MSRH doing some HPDE if you don't have a comp license. NASA is running MSRH on Feb 9-10, that's the only date this year. Get info here or PM me if you need help http://www.nasatxracing.com/

-Mark

SingleTurboRx7

I run a fuel cell in mine, so I am not exactly sure. but by your numbers I am guessing we could probably run for 1 1/2 hour at a time between fill-ups.

do we have any leads on a car?

Rx7_Nut13B

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# 2.2: Driver Eligibility: All drivers must have a valid US or International driver's license and a valid competition license (club memberships, rally licenses, and instructional licenses are not accepted). The ONLY acceptable competition licenses are: AMP, SCCA, FIA, NASA, NASCAR, CSRG, ARCA, WestCar, SRL, Legends/600, USAC, CASA, BCRA, BBORR, NCMA, MMRA, Barber Comp, CRA, ICSCC, HMSA, HSR, and SVRA. If you don't have one of these, you'll need to buy a provisional license from the track; these cost $50 and are sold in the pits on Saturday morning before the race.


So if you don't have a competition license you can pay 50 bucks the day of the race to run, I have run MSRH a number of times just on my free time, just never have gotten a competition license.

Keith you are always welcome!!

Just have to get ready for amount of track time

SCCAITS

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Haven't done any serious looking, I'd prefer a 2nd Gen as I have some parts, have a few sets of wheels and know these the best. Just need to fine one running with some body damage and it could work.

Alternative is a banged up race car for cheap, I'm checking with a possible lead now. Having to put in a cage is going to be expensive, finding a car already caged would be the way to go.

SingleTurboRx7

we can always find a stock car for $500, though we may have to put a windshield in it.

n.houstonrx7

my friend Huy in dallas are interested in doing it. i think he has other guys as well so i think all we need to do is find a car

SCCAITS

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Good thinking but...

2.1: Vehicle Eligibility: Entry limited to mass-produced, four-wheeled vehicles legal for California highway use at the time of their manufacture.

SingleTurboRx7

stock cars that you find up here, are just old street cars stripped out with cages in them

SCCAITS

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Something like these turds might work real cheap. Probably wouldn't need a whole lot to get them ready, I'm going to have start watching ebay for a local one. A beat up low budget beat up SCCA IT car might also be an idea.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/horne...em140200532070
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/race-...em320211147636
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/mini-...em320211456505