What engine managment system you use?
10-12-08, 08:17 PM
#51
i've run both the PFC and a Haltech e8.
i had a powerFC + datalogit and i didn't like it. the hand commander is fairly handy for monitoring things, but pretty much useless for tuning. it obviously uses the stock sensors, which are pretty crappy, and are slow to react and aren't as accurate as the aftermarket sensors that the other EMSs use. the stock closed element air temp sensor reacts extremely slowly and is not good. air temp can change quickly and fuel needs to be adjusted accordingly. the other stock sensors (MAP and coolant temp) are fine though
I liked the Haltech e8 much better, but i had a few bugs with the firmware and IGN stuff -nothing aside from what i'd expect from an aftermarket EMS. the GM sensors it utilizes are very quick reacting (open element air temp sensor) and are much more accurate. the e8/e11 can also be calibrated to use any stock sensors, too.
the software between the two is comparable, but i definitely favored the Haltech software, and the haltech e8 and e11 have way more features than the PFC.
bottom line, if you're pretty confident, get a Haltech e8/e11, as they're good, powerful, and user friendly.
if you're a n00b -which it sounds like you're not- or if you have a good condition harness/sensors (which is pretty hard to come by in these old-*** cars) get a powerFC.
i had a powerFC + datalogit and i didn't like it. the hand commander is fairly handy for monitoring things, but pretty much useless for tuning. it obviously uses the stock sensors, which are pretty crappy, and are slow to react and aren't as accurate as the aftermarket sensors that the other EMSs use. the stock closed element air temp sensor reacts extremely slowly and is not good. air temp can change quickly and fuel needs to be adjusted accordingly. the other stock sensors (MAP and coolant temp) are fine though
I liked the Haltech e8 much better, but i had a few bugs with the firmware and IGN stuff -nothing aside from what i'd expect from an aftermarket EMS. the GM sensors it utilizes are very quick reacting (open element air temp sensor) and are much more accurate. the e8/e11 can also be calibrated to use any stock sensors, too.
the software between the two is comparable, but i definitely favored the Haltech software, and the haltech e8 and e11 have way more features than the PFC.
bottom line, if you're pretty confident, get a Haltech e8/e11, as they're good, powerful, and user friendly.
if you're a n00b -which it sounds like you're not- or if you have a good condition harness/sensors (which is pretty hard to come by in these old-*** cars) get a powerFC.
10-13-08, 06:15 PM
#53
i run a microtech and it is actually easy to use. a little confusing at times but once you figure it out, it all clicks and tuning is a breeze. there is a plug and play option for FD's only, that is why i would have chosen the PFC but my harness was old and i didn't mind making my harness. the thing i wish microtech would have is wideband logging and more resolution for fuel and timing maps.
i wish there was a specifically built standalone set up for rotaries. i'm not talking about the megasquirt, it has too many issues. microtech is not up to date with options. haltech has trigger issues. some of the others don't have enough support for a novice to feel comfortable that they can tune with. someone should take all the ideas and come out with an ultimate system.
i wish there was a specifically built standalone set up for rotaries. i'm not talking about the megasquirt, it has too many issues. microtech is not up to date with options. haltech has trigger issues. some of the others don't have enough support for a novice to feel comfortable that they can tune with. someone should take all the ideas and come out with an ultimate system.
10-13-08, 07:29 PM
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