im jus getting started on upgrading my stock 86 rx7 13b non turbo...what should or need to get before i go and put a turbo in it the car needs some body work but my main priority is engine work .....

 

a fresh engine

 

nice advice that helps ...lol....without swaping engines mine is fine car only has 90thousand miles on it

 

with the heat and stress a turbo brings...it will be cheaper to do everything now (and with and engine that likes turbochargers)

 

icic well i talked to this guy i kno about my car he told me that the engine in my car is a better engine to do work to than his he has a 93 wid 100 grand under the hood lol....he does work on just rx7s ...and ya i want to do everything at once thats y i need to kno what to get first weather i should change fuel rails first or after ...cold air ..new exaust and so on so forth

 

i know what i need but not sure what should come first beforte others i hate workin on cars for certain reasons i refuse to do it...lol there fore i need some advice from more than 1 person

 

so are you saying i should have a 20b to do anything to it worth my time or something diff..??

 

Whats you goal and whats you budget?

 

i will be makin 400+ bux a week starting next week...and um what u mean by my goal...besides make my car faster lol

 

im obviously not gonna jus slap a turbo on my car i want to take it step by step week by week and its my daily drivin car so i cant just get it all done ya know..

 

Goals meaning how much HP? Street car? weekend warrior? Track ****?

Budget meaning - what do you feel comfortable with spending on the car? In total? And knowing that generally, the ACTUAL number will be 2 or 3 times what you estimate.

 

You'll have to swap out the entire drivetrain, for starters. My advice? sell your car and go buy a TII. You're looking at throwing many thousands of dollars at your current car, and with labor more like 10 grand and up........

 

I hope by 400+ bux you mean expendable cash... cause if you've got bills to pay, you're going to be down for awhile... and broke too.

You figure a proper single conversion, fuel, cooling, engine build, turbo, ecu, tuning, is around 7000-10000$.

When my current project nears it's end.. it'll probably be around $20,000 worth of crap. $20,000 in which I'll never get back.. but I don't care, lol.

At 400 a week, you're looking at 20 weeks if you use every cent for the upgrade and do it right. And remember.. DO IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME... skimp now, pay later. I've been there, done that... so now doing it all the way I should have done it the very first time.

Good luck.

 

the first thing your going to want to do is start typing without the interweb ebonix. You will find people will be more helpful if they don't think the person is a half retarded kid that is just going to get in a wreck anyway (no offense). Second thing your going to want to do is think to yourself if you are really going to commit yourself, your time, your money, your days, your nights, your dreams and your life to this project because it's like having the most picky, stuborn, bitch of a woman as your girlfriend. The only differance is that the car will never go down on you but if you upgrade it right the first time, the feeling that a turbo charged rotary can give you can be equally as good, if not better (shhh don't tell my wife ) Ok if your still reading this crap than you may have what it takes to finnish something as long and arguis as a full turbo upgrade on a budget income.

First thing to remember is the project is going to be long because of your 400 dollar a month income so don't expect your car to be on the streets killing supras etc... in a matter of weeks or even months. Second thing to know is search search search. Most of everything has been covered on this site so before posting things like "yo dog how do I make a 400 hp rx7" try searching and it will more than likely have already been covered. Third thing to think about is the absolute best saying when it comes to modifying your car. Fast, Reliable, Cheap pick two. That being said, go ahead and pick the two you are interested in.

Fourth thing (has already been said here) figure out what your goal is for the car. This is one of the toughest things for me as it constantly changed for me. If you can nail down the goal of your car and stick with it through a year or so of this project then you will be leaps and bounds infront of alot of people out there. After this then it is a matter of what parts you need to make your goals happen.

fifth thing is the parts ordering. If a deal is to good to be true than 99.9% of the time it is! Ask me how many times I've been screwed on this site. 3 times too many and each time it was because the deal was just too good to pass up. Also make sure you order parts from reputable people (my rule is they must have at least 2k posts or above to even consider them as a seller).

That should give you a little hint on what it takes to tackle a project of such magnatude but remember, the pay off is huge and once you are done the car has the potential to kill anything on the street, strip, or course. Good luck and sorry for all the misspelled words.

 

I've been burned with guys that have over 2k posts =P

+1 on the grammar, dat shiet beez teh troof yo

I throw about 2g a month into my fd, and that **** still takes me FOREVER

 

Have you really? I haven't yet but thats true. There is no guaranteed way to not get ripped off on this site. The only thing you can do cover your *** somewhat.

 

100% agreed; To the point I wish I had that post definitely cheaper.

$400 a week is $20k a year. I don't think you want to start spending MOST of that on a car.

 

itsonly starting at 400 a week i make 10 - 15 bux an hour under the table depending on the job but ya i see what u all mean and no im not an idiot lol ...i havenothin else to spend my money on im only 19 and id like my car to at least keep up wid my bros srt4 witchis pretty quick

 

1) Use punctuation. . .reading your posts is like listening to a dribbling retard.
2) u is actually spelled you, and so on.

3) I want my time back. dammit

 

^^^hahaha all i'm reading is "Dee dee dee!" No but seriously, I agree with what GoodfellaFD3S said about selling the car and buying a turbocharged model for starters. I was in the same situation when I bought my first FC. The motor hadn't ran in over 2 years and I had to pull it out of the ground in WV to get it home. Once I started tearing everything out like the motor/trans and interior, a customer of the shop I was working at, came to me and asked me why I was doing all that work to that non-turbo car when he had his TII for sale. Needless to say, I pulled 3k out of my @$$ and bought his car. Now the opitions for upgrades in power are endless. Start there.

 

Don't be discouraged meangreen. i bet what answer you will eventaully get, instead of "a TII" is reliability/tune up, make sure your engine is in tip top shape and can take the added stress of a (small) ammount of boost, just keep cruising the boards and read up on what other people have done when turbo-ing N/A's. be sure to use the search function or you will get it pretty bad though.

 

Keep in mind the higher compression ratio of your N/A rotors. Unless you have a very competent tuner (or are very competent yourself), you're going to end up rebuilding that engine fairly often... this is assuming you really are going to be making 400 horsepower. Lots of times these goals will drop as you realize that a stock turbo is only good for about 260rwhp and not 500.

Rich is right, your best and cheapest bet will definitely be to pick up a TII and start from there. The N/A->TII swap is going to be more expensive and more of a nightmare.

 

well for all YOU... i sure the hell aint no retard so id appreciate it if you all would chill i am a lazy typer....i see no big deal in shorting words to get done faster im not worrying about punctuation and spelling whole words when i can abbreviate use 1 letter to say what i want.....other than those comments thanx for the info...say i dont want to get a t2 thinking of course my engine is in great condition car runs great besides i need a water pump now and i have no back pressure...i believe its due to cutting out catalytic converters and hollow 1 and put a piece of straight pipe in its place...is this a good or bad thing...what can i do to gain some back pressure....new catalytic converters? or can i do something else ?....i honestly would like to upgrade this car i have now... other rx7 inthusiasts insist this car has great potential and can be built from like it is and be perfectly fine and i know they know what they are talking about he wanted to buy my car himself ...and i would love to buy me a t2 but i cant find any around here for sale everyone wants them lol...

 

well for U... i sure the hell dont like rewarding laziness w/ effort investments that arent warranted or deserved so this is the extent of my answer to u if u treated people with more respect and used a more friendly interface such as correct english language so that people could understand what u r asking more clearly u would find urself better recieved since ur the one with the question perhaps u should consider catering to the people who u r asking for help from

Damn that's hard to do. I tried my best to run on and on, tougher than I thought.

 

hahahahaha i treated ppl wih respect untill you guys started tweakin bout how i spell **** look at how u wrote no better so too bad