Using bosch 044 inline. Do I have to disconnect an remove factory pump?
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Bit of a Thread revival but.....
I'm just sorting out a fuel system for my car at the moment, i am planning on running -8 lines to the front (I am in the process of buying a CJM fuel kit and seems rude not to use the -8 feed) the problem i have is i use an in tank 044 and do some Track days so want to make 100% if for any reason i dip below 1/4 of a Tank i won't starve the Pump.
SO... I want to loose the 044 from in tank, i have been told the best way to get a decent feed would be to fit a Supra Pump and use the 044 inline as suggested in the thread but isn't the Supra pump a 1/4 feed (-6) so would that cause a restriction compared to a system with a swirl pot and -8 feed? or would it indeed help the 044? (pressure feed) but as the 044 is a bigger bore pulling through more volume would that kill the effect?
I guess I'm saying is the Inline 044 better suited to -6 road setups? and if i want to Run a -8 feed would a Swirl pot better suit my needs?
I'm just sorting out a fuel system for my car at the moment, i am planning on running -8 lines to the front (I am in the process of buying a CJM fuel kit and seems rude not to use the -8 feed) the problem i have is i use an in tank 044 and do some Track days so want to make 100% if for any reason i dip below 1/4 of a Tank i won't starve the Pump.
SO... I want to loose the 044 from in tank, i have been told the best way to get a decent feed would be to fit a Supra Pump and use the 044 inline as suggested in the thread but isn't the Supra pump a 1/4 feed (-6) so would that cause a restriction compared to a system with a swirl pot and -8 feed? or would it indeed help the 044? (pressure feed) but as the 044 is a bigger bore pulling through more volume would that kill the effect?
I guess I'm saying is the Inline 044 better suited to -6 road setups? and if i want to Run a -8 feed would a Swirl pot better suit my needs?
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I'm doing a similar thing Grizzly, except I'm using the FFE fuel rails with '6 fittings on them.
I'll be running a swirl pot with stock lines feeding the pot, a -10 line between the swirl pot and the 044 and then transitioning to -8 between the 044 and the engine bay (using a -8 FuelLab 5" filter directly after the pump). Once inside the engine bay the -8 line is splitting off into two -6 lines to feed the injectors in parallel with a -6 return line from the FPR back to the swirl pot.
If you're going to completely revamp your fuel setup why not just make a swirl pot as well?
I'll be running a swirl pot with stock lines feeding the pot, a -10 line between the swirl pot and the 044 and then transitioning to -8 between the 044 and the engine bay (using a -8 FuelLab 5" filter directly after the pump). Once inside the engine bay the -8 line is splitting off into two -6 lines to feed the injectors in parallel with a -6 return line from the FPR back to the swirl pot.
If you're going to completely revamp your fuel setup why not just make a swirl pot as well?
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Bit of a Thread revival but.....
I'm just sorting out a fuel system for my car at the moment, i am planning on running -8 lines to the front (I am in the process of buying a CJM fuel kit and seems rude not to use the -8 feed) the problem i have is i use an in tank 044 and do some Track days so want to make 100% if for any reason i dip below 1/4 of a Tank i won't starve the Pump.
SO... I want to loose the 044 from in tank, i have been told the best way to get a decent feed would be to fit a Supra Pump and use the 044 inline as suggested in the thread but isn't the Supra pump a 1/4 feed (-6) so would that cause a restriction compared to a system with a swirl pot and -8 feed? or would it indeed help the 044? (pressure feed) but as the 044 is a bigger bore pulling through more volume would that kill the effect?
I guess I'm saying is the Inline 044 better suited to -6 road setups? and if i want to Run a -8 feed would a Swirl pot better suit my needs?
I'm just sorting out a fuel system for my car at the moment, i am planning on running -8 lines to the front (I am in the process of buying a CJM fuel kit and seems rude not to use the -8 feed) the problem i have is i use an in tank 044 and do some Track days so want to make 100% if for any reason i dip below 1/4 of a Tank i won't starve the Pump.
SO... I want to loose the 044 from in tank, i have been told the best way to get a decent feed would be to fit a Supra Pump and use the 044 inline as suggested in the thread but isn't the Supra pump a 1/4 feed (-6) so would that cause a restriction compared to a system with a swirl pot and -8 feed? or would it indeed help the 044? (pressure feed) but as the 044 is a bigger bore pulling through more volume would that kill the effect?
I guess I'm saying is the Inline 044 better suited to -6 road setups? and if i want to Run a -8 feed would a Swirl pot better suit my needs?
Here how my set up turned out.
Surge tank install...
This is probably what you would use for a single 044.
Integrated Single 044 Surge Tank
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What does ever one think of these? (i'd need to check it will work with -8) Fully Enclosed FP34 044 Fuel Surge Tank - 034Motorsport | Performance Parts for Audi, Porsche, and Volkswagen
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look up forum member "elwood" and check out his setup. he is finishing up an updated version for me, has ran numerous scenarios regarding flow, hp capabilities, etc. all i can say is that i am eager as hell to get rid of the aeromotive i have and run the setup he is building.
it involves two 044's, one in line and one enclosed in a swirl pot. just thought i'd throw that out there.
it involves two 044's, one in line and one enclosed in a swirl pot. just thought i'd throw that out there.
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Love all of the options posted, but I can help thinking that I might be overthinking (or overengineering) the solution. What about running a sump tank? I've been looking at the full-race one, which is smaller than the ones found in summit racing.
Full race:
Fuel Sump Kit - Full-Race.com
Full race:
Fuel Sump Kit - Full-Race.com
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a sumped tank like that is what i am currently using. that setup i find great for straight line acceleration since the momentum of take off pushes the fuel straight back. the drawback to it is that the recommended fuel pump location (for best results) is below the level of the sump, basically a gravity fed setup. i had my fb tank modified using a sump for a mustang 5.0. it has two large -10 fittings on it. this is great for when you want to drain the tank quickly to switch to a different fuel!!
for street use, on cars like ours that are normally lower than most, personally i wouldnt recommend it and it is not something i would do again. just my $.02.
for street use, on cars like ours that are normally lower than most, personally i wouldnt recommend it and it is not something i would do again. just my $.02.
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Love all of the options posted, but I can help thinking that I might be overthinking (or overengineering) the solution. What about running a sump tank? I've been looking at the full-race one, which is smaller than the ones found in summit racing.
Full race:
Fuel Sump Kit - Full-Race.com
Full race:
Fuel Sump Kit - Full-Race.com
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a sumped tank like that is what i am currently using. that setup i find great for straight line acceleration since the momentum of take off pushes the fuel straight back. the drawback to it is that the recommended fuel pump location (for best results) is below the level of the sump, basically a gravity fed setup. i had my fb tank modified using a sump for a mustang 5.0. it has two large -10 fittings on it. this is great for when you want to drain the tank quickly to switch to a different fuel!!
for street use, on cars like ours that are normally lower than most, personally i wouldnt recommend it and it is not something i would do again. just my $.02.
for street use, on cars like ours that are normally lower than most, personally i wouldnt recommend it and it is not something i would do again. just my $.02.
Been doing lots of reading, and if I go that route, I will not be doing the welding on this one
I would let a pro handle that one!
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What does ever one think of these? (i'd need to check it will work with -8) Fully Enclosed FP34 044 Fuel Surge Tank - 034Motorsport | Performance Parts for Audi, Porsche, and Volkswagen
Pic ---> https://www.rx7club.com/build-thread.../#post11249009
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