Upgrading a old single turbo setup 2001 FD3S
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Upgrading a old single turbo setup 2001 FD3S
Hey All,
My uncle is trying to upgrade his single turbo setup on his RHD 2001 FD3S. He's had it since new (it's not located in the US) and has had a single turbo setup since 2006, and the turbo is leaking now. He wants to get to the 400 whp range, currently making low 300.
This is the current setup and please let me know if any other pieces of information is necessary. Here's what he sent me
Turbo: Garrett 42 Ball bearing Turbo
Manifold: HKS Cast Iron
Wastegate: 50mm external wastegate
ECU: Autronic ECU
Fuel Injectors: Autronic 1000cc injectors
What options are out there to reach this power goal, trying to keep what good parts he has already, if possible.
My uncle is trying to upgrade his single turbo setup on his RHD 2001 FD3S. He's had it since new (it's not located in the US) and has had a single turbo setup since 2006, and the turbo is leaking now. He wants to get to the 400 whp range, currently making low 300.
This is the current setup and please let me know if any other pieces of information is necessary. Here's what he sent me
Turbo: Garrett 42 Ball bearing Turbo
Manifold: HKS Cast Iron
Wastegate: 50mm external wastegate
ECU: Autronic ECU
Fuel Injectors: Autronic 1000cc injectors
What options are out there to reach this power goal, trying to keep what good parts he has already, if possible.
Last edited by scrapin240; 01-13-21 at 12:50 PM.
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A GT35R might require a new downpipe( slight fab work), and will require two turbo cooling lines added.
If you want a direct bolt in replacement, we can make, run around $1095. We will however need an actual picture of the turbo, as it is definitely NOT running a Garrett G42 of any size, probably a Garrett TO4E...
If you want a direct bolt in replacement, we can make, run around $1095. We will however need an actual picture of the turbo, as it is definitely NOT running a Garrett G42 of any size, probably a Garrett TO4E...
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Unless Mr Aubert has been beavering away at a secret project, there's no such thing as Autronic injectors. Bit bigger than a T04E turbo installed, but when we ran 4x1000IDs on a SM4, 98Ron , somewhere around 260kw was available at 1 bar - using a DD.....which probably is approaching the usual 400hp US figure.
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I imagine it is very likely a GT42 turbo, posting pictures helps. That turbo will make the power easily if rebuilt by you local turbo service, however if budget allows a smaller more modern turbo will have a much wider powerband. If you can identify the injectors, fuel pressure regulator and pump you may find you have capacity, even if you have to lift base pressure slightly. Note that flow capacity will rise not linearly but with the square root of new/old fuel pressure)
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thanks so far for the options! I have asked for pics of the engine bay, and hopefully can identify what's in there. I do believe he would like to just replace the turbo if possible aka the cheaper option, but I will see if he's open to the something more like an entire kit.
Say something like the HKS kit above, can the autronics ecu that he has now work for the tuning?
Say something like the HKS kit above, can the autronics ecu that he has now work for the tuning?
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The autronic is capable and changing it would likely need a substantial rewire. If you were starting from scratch, it probably wouldn't be a first choice now. On one hand, it's pretty rock solid stable compared to the latest and greatest features every 2 years type of ecus, the fail safe, diagnosis, staging and logging capability are quite deficient compared to current boxes on the other hand.
Assuming it's an early SM4, an updated chipset may be worth a small investment though if he keeps it. Biggest problem now is the tuning base is declining and rotary specific tuners - at least ones you'd trust, smaller again. Depending on where he's located, that may be the deciding factor on whether to retain or change.
Assuming it's an early SM4, an updated chipset may be worth a small investment though if he keeps it. Biggest problem now is the tuning base is declining and rotary specific tuners - at least ones you'd trust, smaller again. Depending on where he's located, that may be the deciding factor on whether to retain or change.
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