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Old 07-13-05, 02:59 PM
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turbonetics newgen wastegate

I am getting a screaming deal on all turbonetics products...., but I want to know what I am getting into. does anyone have experience with the turbonetics NEWGEN wastegate 50mm or 60mm?

I have searched all over, best I could find was a couple of writeups from turbonetics itself.

Oh yeah on a side note: I am trying to decide on turbonetics ball bearing turbo: 60-1, 62-1, or t66. Main thing I am concerned about is lag, but I want 400 hp at a modest boost setting, and ability to hit high 400's-500hp at higher boost settings.

Current mods: Pineapple rebuild w/ Large street port, all fuel mod upgrades 850cc/1600cc sec. & fpr, pfc, large FMIC, dp, resonated mp, greddy catback, upgraded radiator, etc etc etc.

Thanks in advance!
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Nobody knows anything about this wastegate? Oh well, I will post up results after I get it!
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50mm will be more than enough to vent a t-66 you coulb prob get away with a 38mm for that, but hell just so it looks cool get the 60mm it'll be the same size as the compressor on the turbo.
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If that is the swing gate your talking about then I have only heard good things about it. Might wanna ask a-spec abotu it as i think they use it form there posts here.
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I had a chance for a screaming deal on one also but couldn't find any outside info or unbiased product reviews about it.
I 'heard' good things about it but went with the tried and true Tial 44mm instead.
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We've used a few on some of our kits the only thing that can happen is the bolt that goes through the backside can come loose.
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zero, would you recommend this wastegate to somebody? I only want to make this purchase one time-- the other wastegates I have considered are hks gt series, and tial 44mm as mentioned above. Which would you recommend/go with of the three?
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Get the Tial.
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I would recommend it, and have all three are good HKS parts are pain to get half the time, I would run the Tial or the newgen.
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Originally Posted by Zero R
We've used a few on some of our kits the only thing that can happen is the bolt that goes through the backside can come loose.
This is the bolt that the wastegate relies on as a hinge to make that nice 45 degree swing to open.

And when the bolt falls out what happens? No wastegate controller boost...overboost...kills the engine. Boom.

So there was a recall?! Since you seemed to know about the bolt falling out how many of your customers did you call that you sold the Newgen to and suggest they check it?

I just lost my Newgen wastegate bolt last weekend.

Would you like to replace the wastegate?

Tony

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Get the Tial.
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I have the newgen... No problems as of yet... Will there be a recall? I am pulling it off anyways for a motor rebuild so I will check it. Also still waiting to here back from you "Zero" I sent a email reguarding having my .84 upgraded. Please PM me or email me sk8world@hiwaay.net
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Look at your Newgen. You can tell if it has been "fixed" by an obvious weld spot at the end of the bolt that the flapper hinges on. One side will have the allen head, the other will show the weld...and you can tell that it was done after manufacturer. This is what the current new inventory in stores looks like.

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Originally Posted by Asleep
This is the bolt that the wastegate relies on as a hinge to make that nice 45 degree swing to open.

And when the bolt falls out what happens? No wastegate controller boost...overboost...kills the engine. Boom.

So there was a recall?! Since you seemed to know about the bolt falling out how many of your customers did you call that you sold the Newgen to and suggest they check it?

I just lost my Newgen wastegate bolt last weekend.

Would you like to replace the wastegate?

Tony
Happened once. If it started happening numerous times or to everyone I sold one to I would make a issue out of it. Those that purchased after I was made aware I had already addressed the problem. You bought your kit two years ago. Your warranty issue is with turbonetics. I've made it clear many times on here. I will warranty the work I do. Parts are up to the manufacturer. If the bolt falls out the wastegate will either show creep or stick open it wont stay shut and overboost.
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Want to bet it won't cause uncontrolled boost How about a log to show uncontrolled boost spiking to 20+psi by ~4K rpm?

I do not know what you have made clear many times on here before.

What I am saying is that some form of communication when you found out there were issues with the wastegate you heavily touted...a phone call, an email, something to pass the information on would have been considered good form.

And in all good faith you are saying that you have only heard of one situation where the wastegate stopped functioning due to the it falling apart? When did you learn of the issue?

A builder builds a house with faulty wood and the house falls down, the home owner's issue is with the lumber yard? When the builder doesn't communicate the issue after finding out about it? Especially when it affects more than just the house?

An apology for being left off "your christmas list" about the issue would be in good form right now.

I imagine your posse is going to jump on this thread and dilute it even further.
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Want to bet it won't cause uncontrolled boost How about a log to show uncontrolled boost spiking to 20+psi by ~4K rpm?
Wanna bet I can make a log say anything I want.

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I do not know what you have made clear many times on here before.
As stated before I don't warranty other manufacturers products.(please find me someone who does) I don't warranty anything that has been modified in ANY way without discussing it with me first. If there is some sort of problem be it defective BOV or whatever you should notify me and we will work it out.

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What I am saying is that some form of communication when you found out there were issues with the wastegate you heavily touted...a phone call, an email, something to pass the information on would have been considered good form.
Were issues??? As if mulitple failures were happening?? ONE. I was told of ONE. So two years and how many wastegates later I now hear of a second one. Now. On here. From you. Not a email, not anything. Heavily touted, maybe? I still do think they are good. I am putting one on one of our fully built three rotor cars.

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And in all good faith you are saying that you have only heard of one situation where the wastegate stopped functioning due to the it falling apart? When did you learn of the issue?
And in good faith how do I know what was done with that object. Do you have any idea how many calls/emails I get with "my turbo is broken" only to spend five minutes with them and come to find out they didn't know you could "clock" the housings on the CHRA.(better yet the next question....what's the housing?) So please keep in mind when someone tells me something may be broken I do have to consider it might be user error, and again ONE is no reason to set off a alarm. (especially with some of the hypochondriacs who freak over their turbo spinning down after the car shuts off because they never seen a BB centre section turbo.)


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A builder builds a house with faulty wood and the house falls down, the home owner's issue is with the lumber yard? When the builder doesn't communicate the issue after finding out about it? Especially when it affects more than just the house?
Wrong. Should read as follows.

A manufacturer sells a prefabbed house to buyer, buyer builds it. The house falls down, the buyers issue is with the manufacturer? When the manufacturer doesn't have a clue about said buyers carpentry skills or what was done with the product? Especially when it can affect more than just the house?

Here. I send out a turbo to little Timmy. He calls me and tells me the bearings are shot on this brand new turbo and something must be wrong. I say send it back. It then goes to the manufacturer and they decide wether or not it was put together wrong or little Timmy with his shiny new turbo forgot to prelube it and caused exessive wear. Or better yet thought it would be OK to run it without water lines. I DIDN'T MAKE THE PART, I DIDN'T INSTALL THE PART, I WONT WARRANTY THE PART, that simple.

As far as apology. Accepted. I understand your feeling frustrated and have to vent it's OK.

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I imagine your posse is going to jump on this thread and dilute it even further.
Are you serious??? This is good, my posse? You must feel the need to try and preset the tone here, (as if your setting me up) to get ready defend yourself. No need as I am unaware of any posse?, nor do I need anyones help. I have nothing relevant left to add, so as always have fun and goodnight.

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Originally Posted by sk8world
I have the newgen... No problems as of yet... Will there be a recall? I am pulling it off anyways for a motor rebuild so I will check it. Also still waiting to here back from you "Zero" I sent a email reguarding having my .84 upgraded. Please PM me or email me sk8world@hiwaay.net
I have been trying to hunt one down along with a few other GT40R parts. I will have some kind of answer on Monday. I wont be back in this thread so just contact me at work.
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