in general which one would produce more power?

 

To4S

 

I'm guessing you mean T0E "60" which would be the biggest one vs T04S. T04S can make slighly more power...

 

thanks you guys

 

you think the to4s would supply 300rwhp safely with 720cc all around and with power fc and a front mount

specs on the to4s
flow: 61 lbs/min 781cfm

.70 A/R HOUSING

60-1 WHEEL

 

Here's some pics of the two turbos next to each other:







This is the T04S

 

youre talking about the same turbos with different covers (if that to4e has the 60mm wheel)

 

I THINK IM IN LOVE, who has the to4s on a fc?

 

that looks like the xs to4s, no? =]

 

The T04S is an XS turbo. The T04E is some random garret turbo I picked up. I can pull the P/N off it if anyone is interested.

 

any one has that on a fc? if i were to get one i would need the hks manifold and the wastegate?

 

A T04S is a T04B 60-1. The T04E 60-trim is different, and has a totally different compressor wheel/map.... The T04B 60-1 flowing slightly more.

 

ah no wonder it looked smaller. damn garret and theyre annoying *** naming convention. you can also get 60-1's with to4e covers fyi.

 

I dunno the specifics on an FC, but if you were talking about a street ported FD, I'd say you only need about 10 psi to make 300 rwhp.

 

sounds about right

i ran a to4s on a street ported fd for a while.. never had a 10 lb spring, only 1bar... was fast as hell =]

 

Too much mix-up of the naming conventions...

The T04E "60" is pretty straight-forward, but a "T04S" isn't.
I used to think "T04S" = "T04S04" or just "TS04" for short.
"T04S04" is a standard Garrett naming convention.
Turbonetics calls the TS04 a "T58", just to add more confusion.
Someone pointed out there was an HKS "T04S" that was significantly larger.

Now, the questions is...which turbo are we talking about?
A TS04 will produce the same about of power as a 60-1.
Although not identical, the 60-1 makes more efficient power at lower boost, while the TS04 makes more power at boost over 15psi.

Don't let the 4" inlet fool you.
60-1, T04E "60", TS04 all make about the same amount of power...
The HKS T04S is a whole different beast...


-Ted

 

ive seen to4s covers on a wide range of turbos.. my pt61 has a to4s cover =] same with to4b, to4e. its important to know the exact specs of the compresor wheel in it.

 

T04S, T60-1, or T04B60-1 (Turbonetics) is used by a lot of FC guys.

My friend IAN made 408 whp and 303 ft. lb (at 15-17 psi don't quite remember which), on a streetport S4 block with FD rotors. Tuned by Steve Kan.

 

wat do you think it will do on a stock port. mind you i live in cali and i really cant mess around with porting. by cali's smog law

 

If you're only looking for 300 rwhp and you have to stick with stock porting, I'd be tempted to say go with P trim, 0.84 turbine, 60-1 compressor, T04S cover.

I have no doubts that a T04E could work nicely too, but I just think it leaves you with less room to grow if you decide to go that route one day.

 

You can get the t04e with a 4" inlet as well, it comes with the antiwhistle/surge shroud built into it...
The difference between the 3 is really the shaft size for the wheels..
You can't jump up in comp size from the t04e 60, 60-1 should you decided you want more, the "quill" size is larger on the T series turbo's starting with the Ts04, and will not work with the smaller shaft turbos, some people have and do cut them down, but Neither turbonetics nor garrett will do it, recommend it, or warranty it, neither will most turboshops as I found out..So the Ts04 would be a good choice for someone who down the road wants to expand a little, you can jump to a T66 wheel with just a cover and wheel change... On the exhuast side, I wouldn't go any less than a 1.0 divided p trim...

 

hey i was wondering if i get the to4s with the p trim would i need to get the hks manifold and is hks the only maker for the fc manifold?

 

15psi.

 

No, but it's the the cheapest and most reliable that's easily available.


-Ted

 

Might as well port it if the motor's apart. Not like you can pass visual with a bigger turbo anyways.