T61 vs. AF61, decisions decisions
03-10-06, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by PhatManBUD
i orginally wanted the AF61, my friend has one its awesome. but due to budget reasons im gonna be going with the T61. Maybe when it takes a dump, or its not putting out like i want it, ill move onto the AF61!
.........anyway, it's healthy to keep an open mind! good job for doing your research!
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03-10-06, 06:33 PM
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does every word that comes out of your mouth, or off your fingers onto the keyboard for that matter have to be completly negative. Just look back on the things you have typed, even on this thread. How old are you? grow up seriously.
BTW the af61r is a great turbocharger, good job.
does every word that comes out of your mouth, or off your fingers onto the keyboard for that matter have to be completly negative. Just look back on the things you have typed, even on this thread. How old are you? grow up seriously.
BTW the af61r is a great turbocharger, good job.
03-10-06, 06:39 PM
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my negativity is opposing thier negativity. should i just keep my mouth closed and let people talk crap about my product! i think not!!!!!!!
anyway, thanks again!
anyway, thanks again!
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03-10-06, 06:54 PM
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because it's a hybrid unit i cant get a map. i'm done ..please revert to other that have actually used one!
ps.. do you have any guitars for sale? give me the lowdown! i'm looking for a les paul strat.
ps.. do you have any guitars for sale? give me the lowdown! i'm looking for a les paul strat.
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03-10-06, 07:06 PM
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Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
ask whoever you get the compressor from for a map.
if you "teamed up with garrett" on this one, wouldn't they have a map for you?
if you "teamed up with garrett" on this one, wouldn't they have a map for you?
03-10-06, 07:09 PM
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One more time, beacuse it's not an off the shelf wheel i cant get a map. please ...call Garrett and ask the ******** there if you can get a map for a certian wheel??? they'll laugh at you! Honestly, with the lack of support from Garrett, thier misinformation, warehouse whoring, and selling 10 year old technology as the newest and greatest--- - i am be using less and less of thier parts. My sales are generally custom trim related and because i actually care about what i sell and my customers i try to build each unit as economical as possoble without sacrificing on preformance and quality!!!!!!! BYE!!!!
03-10-06, 07:38 PM
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actually, garrett posts their maps right on their website. so of course they'll laugh at you...and they'll tell you to have a look at the site. it's all right there.
don't believe me?
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...40/GT4088R.htm
compressor and turbine.
if you care sooooooo much about what you're selling, why haven't you done your homework on it? you're selling a product, and you don't even know what it's capable of! and since you don't know what it's capable of, how are you modifying it (besides grinding off the numbers). aren't you testing it before and after modifications? it looks to me like you've made some big claims without testing, and you just hope your customers are going to be lucky and actually hit those numbers.
so far all i've seen is one dyno sheet with boost creep ~420 whp @ 16-17psi, and a lot of talk.
don't believe me?
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...40/GT4088R.htm
compressor and turbine.
if you care sooooooo much about what you're selling, why haven't you done your homework on it? you're selling a product, and you don't even know what it's capable of! and since you don't know what it's capable of, how are you modifying it (besides grinding off the numbers). aren't you testing it before and after modifications? it looks to me like you've made some big claims without testing, and you just hope your customers are going to be lucky and actually hit those numbers.
so far all i've seen is one dyno sheet with boost creep ~420 whp @ 16-17psi, and a lot of talk.
03-10-06, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by LUPE
Compressor maps are for women. The only people I see asking for them are nerdy-pimple-popping RX7 owners.
are you an idiot? i understand you have someone do all your work for you, so it's not important if you can't read a compressor map. but the rest of us do like information.
03-10-06, 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
are you an idiot? i understand you have someone do all your work for you, so it's not important if you can't read a compressor map. but the rest of us do like information.
03-10-06, 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
so far all i've seen is one dyno sheet with boost creep ~420 whp @ 16-17psi, and a lot of talk.
03-10-06, 07:54 PM
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i have a commuter car. i'm not into the dyno-***** stuff. a 35r putting 400+ to the ground on 91 octane is good enough for me.
the difference between you and i is when i want to change something, i not only can do the work, but the calculations behind it as well. there's more to it than just turning a wrench. don't persecute me because of your ignorance.
the difference between you and i is when i want to change something, i not only can do the work, but the calculations behind it as well. there's more to it than just turning a wrench. don't persecute me because of your ignorance.
03-10-06, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
i have a commuter car. i'm not into the dyno-***** stuff. a 35r putting 400+ to the ground on 91 octane is good enough for me.
the difference between you and i is when i want to change something, i not only can do the work, but the calculations behind it as well. there's more to it than just turning a wrench. don't persecute me because of your ignorance.
the difference between you and i is when i want to change something, i not only can do the work, but the calculations behind it as well. there's more to it than just turning a wrench. don't persecute me because of your ignorance.
Why do you keep bitching about a turbo that you've never seen, used or interested in?
03-10-06, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
actually, garrett posts their maps right on their website. so of course they'll laugh at you...and they'll tell you to have a look at the site. it's all right there.
don't believe me?
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...40/GT4088R.htm
compressor and turbine.
if you care sooooooo much about what you're selling, why haven't you done your homework on it? you're selling a product, and you don't even know what it's capable of! and since you don't know what it's capable of, how are you modifying it (besides grinding off the numbers). aren't you testing it before and after modifications? it looks to me like you've made some big claims without testing, and you just hope your customers are going to be lucky and actually hit those numbers.
so far all i've seen is one dyno sheet with boost creep ~420 whp @ 16-17psi, and a lot of talk.
don't believe me?
http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...40/GT4088R.htm
compressor and turbine.
if you care sooooooo much about what you're selling, why haven't you done your homework on it? you're selling a product, and you don't even know what it's capable of! and since you don't know what it's capable of, how are you modifying it (besides grinding off the numbers). aren't you testing it before and after modifications? it looks to me like you've made some big claims without testing, and you just hope your customers are going to be lucky and actually hit those numbers.
so far all i've seen is one dyno sheet with boost creep ~420 whp @ 16-17psi, and a lot of talk.
I REALLY THINK YOUR NOT ONLY IGNORANT ON THIS SUBJECT YOU'RE ALSO DEAF... IT MUST BY PLAYING THE OLE 'TAR TOO MUCH!!!!!!!!
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03-10-06, 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by D-R Autosports
how do you get by day to day with the blindness you have? LISTEN UP ....I DONT USE AN OFF THE SHELF WHEEL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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i didn't say you did. but you obviously don't know what you're using. send a wheel in to turbonetics and have them test it and build a map for you.
03-10-06, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
i didn't say you did. but you obviously don't know what you're using. send a wheel in to turbonetics and have them test it and build a map for you.
i posted the efficency that i was given 82% @ 64ppm@18psi ...this was an estimate given to me my the Garrett engineer. His reasoning of this high efficency rating was due to the lower rpm flow numbers being high because of the energy of the turbine being able to counter the aggression of the compressor wheel due to it's leading area being shorter. the wheel originally was like 76%.
i'm now trying to be rational.. please dont offend yourself again.
03-10-06, 09:43 PM
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ok, i'll send it in to turbonetics. want my mailing address?
honestly, how do you even know what you have there if you've never seen a map. you're just relaying what the garrett engineer told you or what?
before, you made it sound like it was a heads up collaboration. if you helped design it, i couldn't imagine you not being able to see the map. there's too many holes in your story.
honestly, how do you even know what you have there if you've never seen a map. you're just relaying what the garrett engineer told you or what?
before, you made it sound like it was a heads up collaboration. if you helped design it, i couldn't imagine you not being able to see the map. there's too many holes in your story.
03-10-06, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
ok, i'll send it in to turbonetics. want my mailing address?
honestly, how do you even know what you have there if you've never seen a map. you're just relaying what the garrett engineer told you or what?
before, you made it sound like it was a heads up collaboration. if you helped design it, i couldn't imagine you not being able to see the map. there's too many holes in your story.
honestly, how do you even know what you have there if you've never seen a map. you're just relaying what the garrett engineer told you or what?
before, you made it sound like it was a heads up collaboration. if you helped design it, i couldn't imagine you not being able to see the map. there's too many holes in your story.
03-10-06, 11:51 PM
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Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
maybe i missed them. go ahead and link me.
want a video? here...
http://media.putfile.com/Rx7-FD3S-AF...steve-kan-tune
Now i have no doubt in my mind this turbo will do over 500whp....i wanna get mine tuned and dynoed to over 500 but i'm thinkin about goin with rons new AF70
Btw i installed a tial 44mm and MSD6a with T2 coil since the tune/dyno/video.....car hauls *** at just 14psi.
03-11-06, 02:16 AM
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Is that flywheel HP?? Thats what it says on that chart.
I am fairly certain that dyno allows the operator to enter a factor to calculate flywheel horsepower.
In this instance the factor he used was 1.0 since power = powerfly...in other words that is the horsepower at the wheels... no drivetrain loss taken.
If a drive train loss was used the factor would be less then 1.0 and the corresponding powerfly number would be greater than power number.