Post Your Single Turbo Dyno Sheet...
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I am running a RE Wing large street port with low compression rotors. APEXi RX6A (US kit), midpipe, cat back, underdrive pulleys, 1200 secondaries, E6K.. yes tuned by Matt aka "HITman", CWC intercooler. Those are the engine mods.
Yes, that was on 89 octane fuel (Korean premium... why I run low compression rotors) at 15 psi. My corrected number was 417 RWHP.
Yes, that was on 89 octane fuel (Korean premium... why I run low compression rotors) at 15 psi. My corrected number was 417 RWHP.
#27
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QUOTE]How about I just add a section to the photo gallery for dyno sheets? You can upload the images and all the details of the run there. Same result, but no clutter that we get from all the stickies up top.[/QUOTE]
That would work, thankyou
I appreciate your honesty but have seen a few Dyno charts posted in other threads that did not get put on this one. I also know there are several individuals on this forum from my area alone that could post Dyno charts if they wanted too. Having all of these in one location will provide an excellent reference resource, and isn't that what this forum is all about?
That would work, thankyou
Probably because not many people, including myself, have anything constructive to add.
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Originally posted by Eric Michel
I agree thanks for sharing Rick. I am curious about that second dyno chart, different turbo/boost control?
I agree thanks for sharing Rick. I am curious about that second dyno chart, different turbo/boost control?
What a difference a little tuning will do. Take a look at the torque curve - amazing numbers with the radical porting we have and rather small T04E. We were making 12 psi at 3,000 rpm...
The car will be shown down in El Cajon at a large car show this Saturday.
Thank you guys for all the nice comments. This car was a result of the hard work of X S Engineering, Dynamic Motorsports, Redline Engineering and most important - feedback from this forum.
Rick Boyd
1993 RX-7 (wife's sports car)
2001 911 Turbo (my sports car)
2000 Acura TL (my daily driver)
2001 Lexus LX-470 (wife's daily driver)
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Nice numbers car crazy.
You will find that most non BP or PP ported turbo engines will make peak power around the 7000-8000rpm range, no matter what boost is run
You will find that most non BP or PP ported turbo engines will make peak power around the 7000-8000rpm range, no matter what boost is run
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Originally posted by AJC13B
Nice numbers car crazy.
You will find that most non BP or PP ported turbo engines will make peak power around the 7000-8000rpm range, no matter what boost is run
Nice numbers car crazy.
You will find that most non BP or PP ported turbo engines will make peak power around the 7000-8000rpm range, no matter what boost is run
Currently, my turbo is a little small for the porting of the motor. It is funny... I see the boost and hear the boost, it just does not seem to lite. At around 4,000 rpm is when the motor seems to breath and ... "we are off to the races!" From around 3,000 to 4,000 rpm, it does have enough power to be aware of.
Mine is making peak hp around 6200-6300 rpms, a little shy of the 7k-8k range.
We are happy!
Rick
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Peak power is made at 6300rpm and boost kicks in at 4000rpm? You sure everything is working right??
With a .96 rear, even on an unopened motor, I would say boost would cut in a little earlier!
My turbo had a massive front and an even larger rear (73mm blade and 1.22 housing) and boost cut in at 5000rpm. Now I have a smaller housing and blade (68mm blade and 1.05 housing) the boost cuts in 500rpm earlier.
It just sounds strange that peak power is developed so low...2 friends have 3rd gen engines in their drag cars, one made 720fwhp and the other 526fwkw and both were made in the low 7000rpm range. The one with 720 has run a best of 8.881 @ 152 and the other 9.3 @ 144. Both have much larger turbos than even me....strange indeed
Oh, sweet car and love those brakes
With a .96 rear, even on an unopened motor, I would say boost would cut in a little earlier!
My turbo had a massive front and an even larger rear (73mm blade and 1.22 housing) and boost cut in at 5000rpm. Now I have a smaller housing and blade (68mm blade and 1.05 housing) the boost cuts in 500rpm earlier.
It just sounds strange that peak power is developed so low...2 friends have 3rd gen engines in their drag cars, one made 720fwhp and the other 526fwkw and both were made in the low 7000rpm range. The one with 720 has run a best of 8.881 @ 152 and the other 9.3 @ 144. Both have much larger turbos than even me....strange indeed
Oh, sweet car and love those brakes
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All of the turbos I have seen that spool fairly quick 3-4K seem to become restrictive around 6500 RPM on the higher boost levels. Did you data log your boost when making these runs?
I have a SMIC that runs very hot on a chassis dyno, the runs I posted were with no cool down, maybe 5 min between runs. The first run on a cold car always shows 15-25 more HP, just for fun I might try spraying some ice water on the IC/intake.
Rick, I would love to see a dyno chart on that Porsche
What happened to the Dyno sheet Photo gallery section?
I have a SMIC that runs very hot on a chassis dyno, the runs I posted were with no cool down, maybe 5 min between runs. The first run on a cold car always shows 15-25 more HP, just for fun I might try spraying some ice water on the IC/intake.
Rick, I would love to see a dyno chart on that Porsche
What happened to the Dyno sheet Photo gallery section?
#36
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You can see my car's latest numbers (ran out of fuel to try for 400+) here:
http://www.zeroglabs.com/rx7/dynoresults.htm
Keep in mind that I stopped my test at 6500 and was running only 12 psi. Target is 15 or 16 psi and 400+ rwhp.
Brian
http://www.zeroglabs.com/rx7/dynoresults.htm
Keep in mind that I stopped my test at 6500 and was running only 12 psi. Target is 15 or 16 psi and 400+ rwhp.
Brian
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Originally posted by carcrazy
Here is my dyno:
RX-7 Dyno
403 rwhp 329 torque at 14 psi and 91 pump...
Rick
1993 RX-7
Here is my dyno:
RX-7 Dyno
403 rwhp 329 torque at 14 psi and 91 pump...
Rick
1993 RX-7
Hey Rick, I noticed something wierd about that dyno chart. The hp and tq are suppose to cross at about 5250 and yours crosses at around 6750.
Anyway, just thought I'd point that out. Looks good though
STEPHEN
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yeah that dyno chart is inaccurate i think. hp and tq are supposed to be equal at 5252 rpm. that is becuase the formula for hp is:
horsepower = (torque * rpm) / 5252
horsepower = (torque * rpm) / 5252
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forgive me here but i am having trouble understanding the purpose of going single. Given the fact that you could make 350-360 with the stock twins and that most of you are making 390 with a single setup which costs an incredible amount of money to do right, i do not see the cost/reward there. Is it that you stock twins were shot so you went with a single? Dont flame me..just looking at the reasoning.
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Originally posted by matty
forgive me here but i am having trouble understanding the purpose of going single. Given the fact that you could make 350-360 with the stock twins and that most of you are making 390 with a single setup which costs an incredible amount of money to do right, i do not see the cost/reward there. Is it that you stock twins were shot so you went with a single? Dont flame me..just looking at the reasoning.
forgive me here but i am having trouble understanding the purpose of going single. Given the fact that you could make 350-360 with the stock twins and that most of you are making 390 with a single setup which costs an incredible amount of money to do right, i do not see the cost/reward there. Is it that you stock twins were shot so you went with a single? Dont flame me..just looking at the reasoning.
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yeah that dyno chart is inaccurate i think. hp and tq are supposed to be equal at 5252 rpm. that is becuase the formula for hp is:
Wargasm, your numbers look good but it looks like your boost leveled off around 10PSI from a little over 3K to 5.5K and then rose up to 12PSI. If you compare your graph to my 10/12PSI graph I think you will see what I mean. You may just need to adjust your boost controller gain, I am trying to get mine so it doesn't start dropping off in the higher RPM.
I like to see nice flat torque curves, that is why I was curious with the old Graph from carcrazy. His newer graph was not as smooth, I was trying to understand why. Since he didn't change anything accept for tunning I think it is just a matter of getting the boost control set properly. If you can get the boost/torque to hang in there through the higher RPM's thats worth some power. What do you guys think?
#43
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Originally posted by Eric Michel
His HP and Torgue graphs are not aligned, that is why it appears that they are crossing at a higher RPM. If you line the graphs up they do cross right around 5200 RPM.
I like to see nice flat torque curves, that is why I was curious with the old Graph from carcrazy. His newer graph was not as smooth, I was trying to understand why. Since he didn't change anything accept for tunning I think it is just a matter of getting the boost control set properly. If you can get the boost/torque to hang in there through the higher RPM's thats worth some power. What do you guys think?
His HP and Torgue graphs are not aligned, that is why it appears that they are crossing at a higher RPM. If you line the graphs up they do cross right around 5200 RPM.
I like to see nice flat torque curves, that is why I was curious with the old Graph from carcrazy. His newer graph was not as smooth, I was trying to understand why. Since he didn't change anything accept for tunning I think it is just a matter of getting the boost control set properly. If you can get the boost/torque to hang in there through the higher RPM's thats worth some power. What do you guys think?
regards
Rick
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Here is the URL for the Dyno Sheet gallery.
https://www.rx7club.com/photo/index.php?cat=549&thumb=1
As it says, make sure and enter all the info about the car when you post pics.
https://www.rx7club.com/photo/index.php?cat=549&thumb=1
As it says, make sure and enter all the info about the car when you post pics.
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I dont think i follow what you guys are saying about Carcarzy's graph not being aligned? If you line them up to where the hp and tq crosses at 5252 then they show completely different numbers then what its currently showing.
Maybe I'm not following you guys.
STEPHEN
Maybe I'm not following you guys.
STEPHEN
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The scale on the left is for HP, the one on the right is for torque. If the scales are aligned the 300HP scale position would be in the same vertical position as the 300 ft-lbs mark. On his graph 300 ft-lbs is at the same vertical position as 450 HP. If you re-scaled the torque graph so that 300 ft-lbs lined up with 300 HP the torque curve plot would move down and you would see the torque and HP cross at 5200.
If you look at the graphs I posted, some are aligned and some are not. You can select to align the graphs on the dyno computer if you remember. You need to be very conscious of the scales when reading dyno charts. You may have noticed that some charts look very different but most of the differences are due to different scales being used.
If you look at the graphs I posted, some are aligned and some are not. You can select to align the graphs on the dyno computer if you remember. You need to be very conscious of the scales when reading dyno charts. You may have noticed that some charts look very different but most of the differences are due to different scales being used.
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Carcrazy, how did you adjust boost at different RPM? I think the AVRC has this feature? I know that adjusting the gain on my Profec-B will cause the boost to fluctuate at different RPM's but....
#48
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Originally posted by Eric Michel
Carcrazy, how did you adjust boost at different RPM? I think the AVRC has this feature? I know that adjusting the gain on my Profec-B will cause the boost to fluctuate at different RPM's but....
Carcrazy, how did you adjust boost at different RPM? I think the AVRC has this feature? I know that adjusting the gain on my Profec-B will cause the boost to fluctuate at different RPM's but....
regards
Rick
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I guess I need to request another dyno graph with the scales aligned - this would be interesting to note if they do cross at 5250 rpm.
Regards,
Eric