OBX Turbo
02-26-09, 11:17 PM
#1
OBX Turbo
I have a friend who wants to run a obx turbo and wont listen to me. does anyone have any feedback or anyone running one?? i want to print this out for him to see. here is a link of the one he wants
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-H...Q5fAccessories
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/OBX-H...Q5fAccessories
02-26-09, 11:26 PM
#2
one thing I've learned about ebay turbos is that you just never know. I know of a couple that have gotten some decent life out of them. It could last 100, 1000, or 10,000 miles. The quality is so inconsistent with those things. They do tend to last longer at lower boost though.
02-26-09, 11:35 PM
#3
yea thats what he says. we have a local garrett rebuilder and he says that ebay turbos all have garrett similar internals so he can rebuild any of them. now OBX turbos i noticed have not really been ran on many cars cuz of the ebay turbo scare but yet some members here on the forum have obx turbo manifolds that are holding up just fine. now i know no ss auto or xs power can do that. i have seen garrett turbos fail after only 5k miles and have a ton of thrust play to bearing failure. so i dont know what to think
02-27-09, 12:11 AM
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Let him run it. If it blows, then get him to post in here, and then you can use that print-off to convince another stupid friend not to shop flea-bay for critical articles like Turbos!
02-27-09, 01:00 AM
#6
yea i see your point but still the obx seems to be holding their name. say garrett goes out of buisness like greddy/trust. if a new company comes along with a new turbo and nobody knows who they are are they going to call them garbage too? **** i have dear o precision turbos going out all the time lol.
02-27-09, 01:23 AM
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I've noticed people that have "drag" cars or street racing cars that don't see boost unless theres a race (which only lasts like 15 seconds) have no problem running cheap turbos like SSautocrap/XS power, etc. If you're the type of person that goes into boost every chance you get and do lots of 4th/5th gear pulls on the highway often then you will probably want to fork out the money for a name brand turbo.
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02-27-09, 09:23 AM
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i am not dumb dude i was just saying thats all. i am saying is there ever going to be another company that wont be called ebay crap??? i just want proof or people who have ran obx. they dont use crap steel wheels like the no name turbos. i can see everyone just thinks it ebay junk but no one has actually tested it
02-27-09, 01:24 PM
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Step 1) Tell him very nicely that he is the MAN for running such a well thought out turbo.
Step 2) Keep updates with him how his car is running and tell him he can run more booost.
Step 3) Watch and laugh as his *****Man **** turbo falls apart and post for us to see. Make sure you make fun of him for his total lack of common sense on this topic as well. Berate him on a personal, mental level.
Step 4) Laughter and emotional profit from the whole scenario.
* On a side note: How many OEM manufacturers and real drag cars do you see using OBX Turbos, Masterpower, XSPowerloss and SSAutocrap turbos. When you see any well built, tuned OEM or race car they are all using: Garrett, IHI, Borgwarner, HKS Garrett, Mitsubishi, COMP/ITS, Precision turbochargers. There is a damn good reason for this too: When people have a ton of money into their cars or value their cars for that matter, people want a company that will not only make an awesome product BUT stand behind the product with limited warranties and such. Try going after OBX if the turbo falls apart, and see what they say. IF a garrett or turbonetics turbocharger falls apart, they will at least stand by their products and if it was a POS, they will REPLACE it, you get AT LEAST that much.
If any of these so called fleabay companies put an ounce of R&D, or hell, even cared about you as a consumer: Their prices won't be dirt cheap. They are cheap because A) They are made with junk materials in a junk factory somewhere in southeast asia, and B) If it falls apart on you, there is 0 warranty, and 0 customer service. You get owned.
People don't need to beat a dead horse over and over again. Smart people watch other people's fuckups and learn from it. You see some joker in an EVO with an SSautocrap turbo suffer because his glued on turbo fell apart (yeah they are glued on or used to be), you learn from it. You don't question it, because it obviously FELL apart for a reason (it's ****). Or, you see some guy in a supra who tried to be cheap, use a fleabay intercooler, and then get pissed off his endtanks blew off at 25 pounds of boost (seen this happen too in person). Then you ask the question...Why don't you see any PWR, HKS GT Intercoolers, or any quality part for that matter, blowing endtanks off at 2 bars of boost??
Then you think, and do the right thing: you don't buy such products. You don't be a guinea pig for **** parts or put yourself or your car in financial or physical harms way, or try to be some hero or martyr for the chinese junk parts (YEAH MAN, THIS DIRT CHEAP **** WORKS..for now). You instead stick with tried and true parts. The quality parts manufacturers are not going to cry a river if you don't buy their parts (you are NOT hurting them, you are only hurting yourself and this industry).
My .02.
Step 2) Keep updates with him how his car is running and tell him he can run more booost.
Step 3) Watch and laugh as his *****Man **** turbo falls apart and post for us to see. Make sure you make fun of him for his total lack of common sense on this topic as well. Berate him on a personal, mental level.
Step 4) Laughter and emotional profit from the whole scenario.
* On a side note: How many OEM manufacturers and real drag cars do you see using OBX Turbos, Masterpower, XSPowerloss and SSAutocrap turbos. When you see any well built, tuned OEM or race car they are all using: Garrett, IHI, Borgwarner, HKS Garrett, Mitsubishi, COMP/ITS, Precision turbochargers. There is a damn good reason for this too: When people have a ton of money into their cars or value their cars for that matter, people want a company that will not only make an awesome product BUT stand behind the product with limited warranties and such. Try going after OBX if the turbo falls apart, and see what they say. IF a garrett or turbonetics turbocharger falls apart, they will at least stand by their products and if it was a POS, they will REPLACE it, you get AT LEAST that much.
If any of these so called fleabay companies put an ounce of R&D, or hell, even cared about you as a consumer: Their prices won't be dirt cheap. They are cheap because A) They are made with junk materials in a junk factory somewhere in southeast asia, and B) If it falls apart on you, there is 0 warranty, and 0 customer service. You get owned.
People don't need to beat a dead horse over and over again. Smart people watch other people's fuckups and learn from it. You see some joker in an EVO with an SSautocrap turbo suffer because his glued on turbo fell apart (yeah they are glued on or used to be), you learn from it. You don't question it, because it obviously FELL apart for a reason (it's ****). Or, you see some guy in a supra who tried to be cheap, use a fleabay intercooler, and then get pissed off his endtanks blew off at 25 pounds of boost (seen this happen too in person). Then you ask the question...Why don't you see any PWR, HKS GT Intercoolers, or any quality part for that matter, blowing endtanks off at 2 bars of boost??
Then you think, and do the right thing: you don't buy such products. You don't be a guinea pig for **** parts or put yourself or your car in financial or physical harms way, or try to be some hero or martyr for the chinese junk parts (YEAH MAN, THIS DIRT CHEAP **** WORKS..for now). You instead stick with tried and true parts. The quality parts manufacturers are not going to cry a river if you don't buy their parts (you are NOT hurting them, you are only hurting yourself and this industry).
My .02.
02-27-09, 05:30 PM
#12
If your buying something engineered by the chinese then its not going to worked.
If your buying a product engineered by somebody else, manufactured by the chinese, as long as the company engineering it have a brain your turbo or any other product for that matter will be excellent, (most of the time better the manufacturing in other countries).
These are brand names that i know for sure that buy junk from china and sell it here for a quick buck.
PRO boost
SS autochrome
OBX(some of their products i know for sure are just junk).
Im in and out of china all the time, i have alot of stuff made their. And their manufacturing is excellent, you only have a problem when you need them to design something.(even the smallest things).
If your buying a product engineered by somebody else, manufactured by the chinese, as long as the company engineering it have a brain your turbo or any other product for that matter will be excellent, (most of the time better the manufacturing in other countries).
These are brand names that i know for sure that buy junk from china and sell it here for a quick buck.
PRO boost
SS autochrome
OBX(some of their products i know for sure are just junk).
Im in and out of china all the time, i have alot of stuff made their. And their manufacturing is excellent, you only have a problem when you need them to design something.(even the smallest things).
02-27-09, 06:11 PM
#13
lol. ok i printed this out and showed him i dont think he is going that route anymore.
on a side not i have seen master power turbos fail as well. in my opinion the only reliable ones are holset, garrett, precision ForSURE, turbonetics, borg warner, greddy and hks nothing else lol
on a side not i have seen master power turbos fail as well. in my opinion the only reliable ones are holset, garrett, precision ForSURE, turbonetics, borg warner, greddy and hks nothing else lol
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