Well as some of you guys may know... Ryan at Rywire and Myself have been hammering out an Updated design of the old Rywire Single Turbo Harness. It's got a combination of New tech/sensors and capabilities mixed with the quality of a professionally constructed harness.

This lead to us keeping our eye on the bigger picture and developing a direct plug in solution to the Direct Fire Ignition Coil set up modification. So that the consumer could literally plug in the harness... add ground to Batt, and do as little wiring as possible.




So Now that we've got the Harness Pretty much Squared away... Id like to ask another Poll question.


And or your responses are welcome as well!

How many people would be interested in a 100% Plug and Play Direct Fire Harness that plugs directly into the single turbo harness?

The Harness will Include the following Features:

Plug and Play..Meaning Plugs in directly to the Single Turbo Harness
Direct Fire set up for 4 up to 6 IGN/AEM Smart Coils
Neat and planned out with our most popular set up in mind
Will be able to be used With or Without Rywire Single Turbo Harness (Stand alone)
Takes the pinning and potential mistakes out of doing it on your own.
Labeled Leads
RayChem Dr25 just like the single turbo harness
Ign Connectors included, unless specified for LS1 Coils
Due to recent testing....every two Ign Smart Coils will use one Relay. Meaning....if you've got a 20B...with a Direct Fire Set up...and using 6 IgN Coils... your harness will have (3) Relays..where a 13B with 4 IGN coils would have (2) Relays.
20B Capabilities

 

This makes more sense if you're starting with an M6000 Harness.

 

Why wouldn't it make sense for Anyone wanting to go Direct Fire with their single turbo Swap?

Even an Older Select Plug and Play would be able to use this harness as it'll plug directly in...taking guess work and time out of it. The M2000 ....even being a "Base Model" still comes in more powerful than even some of the Newer Motec ECU's.

 

Put down the crack pipe.

 

Aaron, I'm not sure how you figure a M2000/M6000 Flying Lead Harness without any sensor plugs can directly plug into this harness. It's FLYING LEAD. Going straight from the ECU to a bunch of wires.

A smarter way to do the harness would be to mock up where the average person needs these wires, trim, loom, and add appropriate connectors.

I think I figured out what you mean though: The RyWire harness replicates the OEM harness and then you're using a PnP ECU model.

For those of us adding a LOT more than what a factory ECU could handle, I don't think replicating the OEM harness with added Direct Fire is the way to go. I think starting with a better harness from the ECU manufacturer is ideal.

The process I would use for going about harness construction is labeling how far each wire needs to go for each system. So regardless of which ECU harness you use, you cut the appropriate wires to length, building the systems out, and it's always going to be a direct PnP ordeal for the end user.

 

Ahh come on Chris.. It's the truth. Whether people want to admit it or not. Andy put together a damn good unit. No passwords to unlock features and functions. Straight to the cut. The ecu is a direct competitor to everything in it's class..and due to Andy's diligence...as long as the user is capable and willing to learn..would come in on top when put head to head with other ECU's.

 

I like Andy and the guys at Turblown/Turbosource and I'd like to see them succeed, but they're far from being in the same class as Motec, or any of what I would call motorsport grade ECUs. I really doubt the guys at Adaptronic would even say they are. I've spent a lot of time since PRI playing with Eugene. So I'm familiar. They have a ways to go with the product before they can start making bold comparisons.

You carry some influence on this board and you're making claims regarding two ECUs you haven't even used. Correct? That's a bit irresponsible, really.

 

I disagree with the assessment of the factory ecu connectors not having the capacity to add more functionality. there's plenty of open unused pins( 18 unused pins on my single turbo/egt/emap turbine speed sensors.)
im working with the s4 connector, so i'm no sure how many there are total on the FD... but when you delete the twins and emissions you have alot of unused pins.... assuming pnp ecus can use them.

the other benefit of a PNP harness using factory connectors, means you could try the different pnps out there... arent there pnps from megasquirt, aem, adaptronic, and vipec?

 

You're interpreting this differently than what was intended Chris. But to get this straight...Adaptronic is Andy's company. Turblown/Turbosource is a separate company. Both of which are succeeding. As far as being considered a "Motorsports ECU"....I never said that. You did, But since you bring it up, there are Professional Top Tier Level Cars Running Adaptronic in professional Motorsports. I said that the ECU is a direct competitor to everything in it's class. Which it is. And "class" is made up of more than a few different categories. ....options, capabilities, support, cost and a whole lot of other things define the aftermarket "Class," which is where our forum fits in.

But no Chris, just because my personal car doesn't use a different brand of ECU doesn't mean I haven't used them. I've worked for Mad Mike in Formula Drift for the last 2 years. All of his cars run Haltech. I have experience tuning on my own with Microtech, Apexi Power FC, even HP Tuner and Pro-EFI. And I have what I would consider some of the best teachers as tuners. I don't just tune, I wire these cars as well. Sometimes setting them up, sometimes doing calibration only, sometimes trouble shooting,...and sometimes doing the whole thing from start to finish. So for you to make a bold claim as me being irresponsible because i'm offering a product that will aid the community...that you choose not to accept... in itself.. is your own problem all together.

 

Are you doing this under your company? Did Andy approve of this?

Stop with the community crap! It's totally unnecessary.

 

So... how many Motec M1 series ECUs have you calibrated?

 

None, which is why I havn't listed Motec as having experience with.

 

k.

 

I can copy and paste what I want people to see as a reply as well. But I don't. I never said I have used Motec. I listed the Ecu's I have experience with. Even so, on Paper.. it's not hard to compare ECU's

 

I could be interested, if i have the right you adapt the plugs that go to the ignitors to run to relays that then run to coils?

How would this compare to the Sakebomb Garage product?

I have not seen any reported issues with their setup, this runs one relay.

 

I want to clarify something real quick.

"Motorsports Grade" = PROFESSIONAL motorsports ie: NASCAR, Daytona Prototypes, LeMans, Indycar, F1, WRC... cubic dollar racing. some components are proprietary and can not be purchased by anyone.

"MIL-SPEC" = quality components that meets or exceeds a certain criteria. These parts are tested for compliance on a reoccurring basis. These components are widely used, mature, and most can be ordered from Digikey.

A motorsports grade harness can exceed a mil spec harness and vice versa. It just depends on your needs and quality requirements.

Rywire definitely offers a value added service to the FD community, and does so with a very nice price point.

 

How can anyone interpret this incorrectly?

You're saying the latest Adaptronic ECU is more powerful than an M1 Motec. It's what you said. I then insinuated you, at some point indulged in a mind altering substance. How's the traction control working out on the new Adaptronic relative to the M1? Torque management? Gearbox control? Datalogging? Data analysis software? I don't give a frog's fat hind end if you've used Pro EFI or any other platform. Your statement is hugely inaccurate. And I called you on it. The proper thing to do at this point is say something to the effect of, "Yeah. The hyperbole train went a little off the tracks. My bad."

 

Childish Chris. Straight up. And I'm not going to reply any further. Absolute waste of time. I'll agree, that you and I Disagree.

 

so whats the update on this bruh? is this going to come plug and play ??

 

Yezzir!!! I was trying to post up pictures but something is going on with my photobucket app so I havn't had time to get the photo's up