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signofinfinity 02-06-06 01:51 AM

nice numbers :D congrats lupe

LUPE 02-06-06 04:23 AM


Originally Posted by RX794
Why does the dyno sheet you're showing say FLYWHEEL Horsepower and not RWHP? Does this dyno estimate drivetrain loss and figure it into the calculation? I just want to be sure.

Well, yesterday "I" tried to print off my sheet again and messed it up again. My original sheet in front of my just says HP. I'll get a good scan of my original sheet, both hp/trq and boost

It's 603rwhp, don't worry :)

LUPE 02-06-06 06:15 AM


Originally Posted by ErnieT
Im just bustin your balls. Good luck on that next 43rwhp LOL...:)

I don't need that extra 43hp so much anymore. I've got the weight advantage :rlaugh:

Just kidding around :icon_tup:

dubulup 02-06-06 08:32 AM

Damn fine numbers and some sick pictures, (nice touch with the rim)! Do you have the heaviest spring in the Hallman's? (I don't think stretching the spring changes the K constant?!?!) Think you will get a new WG spring?

LUPE 02-06-06 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by dubulup
Damn fine numbers and some sick pictures, (nice touch with the rim)! Do you have the heaviest spring in the Hallman's? (I don't think stretching the spring changes the K constant?!?!) Think you will get a new WG spring?

I didn't have the heavier spring in my boost controller. I left it at home on accident :(

My wastegate spring is a 24 lbs spring so that's fine. I was able to gain 3 psi by stretching the boost controller spring and adding a shim.

dubulup 02-06-06 10:00 AM

Your WG is 24psi, and you were only able to get 3psi with a boost controller period?? thread title says 27psi, was the controller just plain out matched?

Someone needs needs to post a video of a 600+rwhp FD...this is the 4th I've read about on this forum, I want to hear these turbochargers!!!

BoOsTin FD 02-06-06 10:11 AM

you won't hear the turbocharger over his loud exhaust...

LUPE 02-06-06 10:21 AM


Originally Posted by dubulup
Your WG is 24psi, and you were only able to get 3psi with a boost controller period?? thread title says 27psi, was the controller just plain out matched?

Someone needs needs to post a video of a 600+rwhp FD...this is the 4th I've read about on this forum, I want to hear these turbochargers!!!

well, I was able to get 2.5 psi. My dyno numbers were done technically at 27.5 psi.

I think if I put my heavier spring in the boost controller I would be able to turn it more but I need a profec boost controller.

LUPE 02-06-06 10:23 AM

video will be up today........

Zero R 02-06-06 11:09 AM

Good for you!!! Now hopefully you wont put that oversized turbo on you were talking about earlier.

-S-

LUPE 02-06-06 11:50 AM


Originally Posted by Zero R
Good for you!!! Now hopefully you wont put that oversized turbo on you were talking about earlier.

-S-

Thinking about a 80-84mm modified GT42 (measured at the inducer). We did some test fitting with the DR88 and that thing would have to be mounted between the engine and radiator. I don't think I want to get that silly.

KaoticFdR1 02-06-06 12:57 PM

ah scrap the hood and give your passenger something to look around. lol

Juiceh 02-06-06 01:15 PM

Damn Lupe! Next time Steve comes around I am making it down there (even if I have to push my car) and I want a ride in your beast!

LUPE 02-06-06 02:43 PM

I'm waiting for my lunch break so I can host some videos. Pretty cool stuff :)

diyman25 02-06-06 04:09 PM

Congard on the Power. Steven ken know what he doing. What kind of IGN system you are use?

OH BTW. I think scale you went. is way off Did you went to one of those weight station for Truck ?. There are no way no the Street driving FD can weight 22xx pounds. My Fully strip Road RACE FC weight almost 23xx on the Longacre corner weight machine. and Trust me. I done almost every thing to save weigh( beside change to Dry carbon body parts). So the Correct weight of your FD should be like 29xx, well unless your FD is fully strip. and without roll cage, it might be possible, I could be wrong. Peace J

LUPE 02-06-06 04:32 PM


Originally Posted by diyman25
Congard on the Power. Steven ken know what he doing. What kind IGN system use?

OH BTW. I think scale you went. is way off. There are no way no the Street driving FD can weight 22xx pounds. My Fully strip Road RACE FC weight almost 23xx on the Longacre corner weight machine. and Trust me. I done almost every thing to save weigh( beside change to Dry carbon body parts). So the Correct weight of your FD should be like 29xx.

The scale used was dead on accurate. This isn't my first time weighing the car.

Plenty of people have seen it. :scared:

My car weighs 2,296 lbs.

LUPE 02-06-06 04:47 PM

Nothing fancy here : http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...m/100_1816.jpg

Old Slow Coach 02-06-06 04:50 PM

got any license plate upgrades in the worx?

13B-RX3 02-06-06 04:55 PM

What coils are you running?

LUPE 02-06-06 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by patriick
I'd really like to hear about what it took to hit 2296lbs.

These are the things gone.

Engine accesories, abs, AC, Power steering, air pump, fender liners,ebrake, front sway bar and mounts, front and rear bumper supports, etc. etc. etc. etc.......everything from bins back are gone. I still have carpet, dash door panels, power windows and lock, radio etc. etc...... man I can go on and on.

Stock IRS is gone and I have a ford 8.8 rear end with a aluminum 4 link suspension w/ no sway bar ( I think alot of the weight was dropped from this swap )


Fiberglass hood/fenders, carbon fiber hatch and FAL window, forged weld wheels and lightweight tires, 20lb battery

I tell you, if there is a nut/screw,bolt or clip that I can remove without hurting the structure of the vehicle, I remove it.

none of the parts behind the dash have been removed.

It's been weighed at numerous places with the most accurate reading being done last saturday. Distribution was perfect.

LUPE 02-06-06 04:58 PM


Originally Posted by III Gen X
got any license plate upgrades in the worx?

huh?

LUPE 02-06-06 05:00 PM


Originally Posted by 13B-RX3
What coils are you running?

My ignition system consists of stock trailing coil, TII leading coil and msd 6al on the leading. It's got 10.5 race plugs and magnacore wires. Nothing fancy involved.

CowsniperRX7 02-06-06 05:01 PM


Originally Posted by diyman25
Congard on the Power. Steven ken know what he doing. What kind of IGN system you are use?

OH BTW. I think scale you went. is way off Did you went to one of those weight station for Truck ?. There are no way no the Street driving FD can weight 22xx pounds. My Fully strip Road RACE FC weight almost 23xx on the Longacre corner weight machine. and Trust me. I done almost every thing to save weigh( beside change to Dry carbon body parts). So the Correct weight of your FD should be like 29xx, well unless your FD is fully strip. and without roll cage, it might be possible, I could be wrong. Peace J

companionship?

Old Slow Coach 02-06-06 05:13 PM


Originally Posted by LUPE
huh?

nevrmnd

13btnos 02-06-06 05:40 PM

What's your fuel system consist of and what % duty cycle you running your injectors?

Fd3BOOST 02-06-06 05:56 PM

Congratulations Lupe! Seriously nice stuff. Enjoy yourself.

LUPE 02-06-06 05:57 PM


Originally Posted by 13btnos
What's your fuel system consist of and what % duty cycle you running your injectors?

I have two 1600cc secondaries and two 950cc primaries. Aeromotive A1000 pump, Aeromotive FPR, -10 feed line and -8 return line.

I think duty cycle was around 85% but not certain. Base fuel pressure of 50-55psi.

Pressurized 02-06-06 06:10 PM

nice to see some more T51 numbers...hopefully i'll get mine on the dyno this Spring...and see what she can do :D

ronbros3 02-06-06 06:10 PM

HI! LUPE you sure have become popular, SAY HI to Steve, from the old guy in Daytona.

ronbros3 02-06-06 06:22 PM

you are right on about an automatic trans, sure would make things simpler trying to put that much down, and rotarys are good about not to much torque early in the rpm range, so as not to shock the drive line and break driveline parts. here is one for you , I will race you from 50mph to 130 mph on a 5th gear roll with my almost stock FC. gives you somthing to think about . RON always having FUN.

silvr94r2 02-06-06 06:45 PM

Eric: man our cars are very similar in mods. I haven't weighed mine in a while but the last time i did i thought it was stupid light at 23xx.....guess i was wrong. That IRS swap must've been worth it's weight in gold;) I did add fiberglass fenders and i cut most of the rear away and put fiberglass overfenders on so it might be even lighter now hopefully. That way i can ballast the car however it needs to be depending on where i'm racing.

I also tried to fit a big turbo.....GT4788. NOT!! It looked absolutely retarded in the engine bay. Like you said with that 88 you tried to fit.....it would've been up between the radiator and engine. Not the best looking or functioning of systems.

RX7 RAGE 02-06-06 07:11 PM

sweet numbers eric :)

DirtyD916 02-06-06 09:18 PM

Post The Video

PDViper77 02-06-06 10:35 PM


Originally Posted by DirtyD916
Post The Video

Yea, lets see it!

mr2foryou 02-06-06 10:40 PM

I'm ready for these videos!!!

Dee

LUPE 02-06-06 11:03 PM

been trying to get the videos up..... but no luck. Will try again tommorow. I'm too stupid to figure this out.

KaoticFdR1 02-06-06 11:07 PM

I have faith in you gorilla ;-)

RX-Heven 02-06-06 11:11 PM

Nice results.

Did Steve build and port this engine too?

LUPE 02-06-06 11:29 PM


Originally Posted by RX-Heven
Nice results.

Did Steve build and port this engine too?

I threw my clunker motor together :rlaugh:

sburkett 02-06-06 11:36 PM

Going back a bit in the thread but I can answer a couple of questions in case anyone is still interested...

"Flywheel Power" is calculated horsepower times a manual "correction factor" for people who want that. Our correction factor was 1.00 (no correction). Every Dynapack screen will show this correction factor. On these sheets, compare Power to PowerFly in the top right, you'll see they are the same. On other formats you will see a field labelled "TCF", and that is the manually entered multiplier. If you ever see a Dynapack sheet with TCF other than 1.00 you are being bamboozled.

The only correction being applied to the calculated horsepower is SAE correction, shown as PCRatio in the data box. A PCRatio between .95 and 1.05 means the result is a good solid number. Things get a little iffy outside that range. That applies to all dynos, not just Dynapack, as the SAE correction formula is not perfect.

It also says "Flywheel Torque" but that is a misnomer, confusion between New Zealand and American sensibilities. It really means "wheel torque divided by gear ratio". Eric actually put 2060 lb/ft of torque to the dyno in 4th gear. Now that's a big number. :D

And his car was weighed on a set of freshly calibrated Intercomp digital scales. They are dead on accurate and I supervised the weighing. No BS anywhere in this thread.

Steven

GoodfellaFD3S 02-07-06 06:52 AM


Originally Posted by sburkett
Going back a bit in the thread but I can answer a couple of questions in case anyone is still interested...

"Flywheel Power" is calculated horsepower times a manual "correction factor" for people who want that. Our correction factor was 1.00 (no correction). Every Dynapack screen will show this correction factor. On these sheets, compare Power to PowerFly in the top right, you'll see they are the same. On other formats you will see a field labelled "TCF", and that is the manually entered multiplier. If you ever see a Dynapack sheet with TCF other than 1.00 you are being bamboozled.

The only correction being applied to the calculated horsepower is SAE correction, shown as PCRatio in the data box. A PCRatio between .95 and 1.05 means the result is a good solid number. Things get a little iffy outside that range. That applies to all dynos, not just Dynapack, as the SAE correction formula is not perfect.

It also says "Flywheel Torque" but that is a misnomer, confusion between New Zealand and American sensibilities. It really means "wheel torque divided by gear ratio". Eric actually put 2060 lb/ft of torque to the dyno in 4th gear. Now that's a big number. :D

And his car was weighed on a set of freshly calibrated Intercomp digital scales. They are dead on accurate and I supervised the weighing. No BS anywhere in this thread.

Steven

good info, thanks :).

BNA_ELLIS 02-07-06 12:24 PM

Lupe what happened to the others guys that got tuned, inc the mr2 etc let us know results please.

LUPE 02-07-06 12:34 PM


Originally Posted by BNA_ELLIS
Lupe what happened to the others guys that got tuned, inc the mr2 etc let us know results please.

Yellow MR2 started out at 270whp at 19psi. Steve got 300whp at the same boost. His original tune was already good but of course, Kan tuned it better.

Gray MR2 was having boost issues and had to tune on the street to 18psi, Steve thought his car was around 350whp.

IS300 w/turbo came in and didn't run. Steve got around 340whp at 7psi. They didn't have a boost controller so Steve couldn't turn the boost up. The owner was a 80 year old man. I think Steve scared the crap out of him on the test drive :lol2:

This tuning trip had major flaws...... None of our cars were ready to be tuned. We all had mechanical problems so it made tuning take 3X longer. Steve did an awesome job for what he had to work with :lol2:

LUPE 02-07-06 12:39 PM


Originally Posted by sburkett
Going back a bit in the thread but I can answer a couple of questions in case anyone is still interested...

"Flywheel Power" is calculated horsepower times a manual "correction factor" for people who want that. Our correction factor was 1.00 (no correction). Every Dynapack screen will show this correction factor. On these sheets, compare Power to PowerFly in the top right, you'll see they are the same. On other formats you will see a field labelled "TCF", and that is the manually entered multiplier. If you ever see a Dynapack sheet with TCF other than 1.00 you are being bamboozled.

The only correction being applied to the calculated horsepower is SAE correction, shown as PCRatio in the data box. A PCRatio between .95 and 1.05 means the result is a good solid number. Things get a little iffy outside that range. That applies to all dynos, not just Dynapack, as the SAE correction formula is not perfect.

It also says "Flywheel Torque" but that is a misnomer, confusion between New Zealand and American sensibilities. It really means "wheel torque divided by gear ratio". Eric actually put 2060 lb/ft of torque to the dyno in 4th gear. Now that's a big number. :D

And his car was weighed on a set of freshly calibrated Intercomp digital scales. They are dead on accurate and I supervised the weighing. No BS anywhere in this thread.

Steven

We appreciate how patient you were with us. It was really nice of you to let us have total access to your all your tools and high dollar equipment.

We appreciate your hospitality.

pluto 02-07-06 12:49 PM

Hey Steven,
It was nice meeting you and your help in providing your time and space for this tuning session. I know that everyone there were very appreciated for the time you spent with us and allowing us stay there as long as needed to get the work done in a timely manner.

I'm sure that I'll revisit your place next time I go back to St. Louis again.

Steve



Originally Posted by sburkett
Going back a bit in the thread but I can answer a couple of questions in case anyone is still interested...

"Flywheel Power" is calculated horsepower times a manual "correction factor" for people who want that. Our correction factor was 1.00 (no correction). Every Dynapack screen will show this correction factor. On these sheets, compare Power to PowerFly in the top right, you'll see they are the same. On other formats you will see a field labelled "TCF", and that is the manually entered multiplier. If you ever see a Dynapack sheet with TCF other than 1.00 you are being bamboozled.

The only correction being applied to the calculated horsepower is SAE correction, shown as PCRatio in the data box. A PCRatio between .95 and 1.05 means the result is a good solid number. Things get a little iffy outside that range. That applies to all dynos, not just Dynapack, as the SAE correction formula is not perfect.

It also says "Flywheel Torque" but that is a misnomer, confusion between New Zealand and American sensibilities. It really means "wheel torque divided by gear ratio". Eric actually put 2060 lb/ft of torque to the dyno in 4th gear. Now that's a big number. :D

And his car was weighed on a set of freshly calibrated Intercomp digital scales. They are dead on accurate and I supervised the weighing. No BS anywhere in this thread.

Steven


JoshRX7 02-07-06 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by pluto
Hey Steven,
It was nice meeting you and your help in providing your time and space for this tuning session. I know that everyone there were very appreciated for the time you spent with us and allowing us stay there as long as needed to get the work done in a timely manner.

I'm sure that I'll revisit your place next time I go back to St. Louis again.

Steve


Word. :icon_tup:

BOOSTD 7 02-07-06 01:25 PM

Incredible Eric, congrats! I sure wanted to make it over there this weekend, but had to many other obligations with family. At least I know with Steve Burkett being in charge the numbers are 100% legit ... and nice work Kan!

LUPE 02-08-06 10:45 AM


Originally Posted by BOOSTD 7
Incredible Eric, congrats! I sure wanted to make it over there this weekend, but had to many other obligations with family. At least I know with Steve Burkett being in charge the numbers are 100% legit ... and nice work Kan!

You should have came, we had a great time.

Turblown 02-08-06 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by crispeed
All that does not matter. That's just for bragging rights.
The only # that matters is the one at the end of the 1/4. :)

Agreed.

Lupe,

When do you plan on running it down the strip?

LUPE 02-08-06 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by 1Revvin7
Agreed.

Lupe,

When do you plan on running it down the strip?

Probably april...


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