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Old 01-31-05, 07:43 PM
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Need help - Turbo II over 300 at the rear wheels

Anyone with a Turbo II making over 300 at the rear wheels?
If so I am interested in the setup your running or the setup I need.
I have a start but really don't know where to go now.

91 TII
Rebuilt motor w/ 30k miles
HKS PFC-F-CON
HKS Graphic Control Computer
HKS FCD
HKS Turbo Timer
2 720cc secondary injectors
3rd gen fx7 fuel pump
Jacobs Engery Core Wire Set
ACT clutch
light weight flywheel (11lbs)
Bonez Turboflo System (down pipe and HF Cat)
Dynomax superturbo catback exhaust (Mazdatrix)
Bonez Street-Comp Intake
Bonez Stage 1 Front/Rear Pads
Bonez SS Brake Lines
Brembo slotted / cross drilled front brake discs
Racing Beat Springs
AGX adjustable struts
Grounding Kit


Any ideas on other things i need?
Here is what I know I need (but just have not decided which one)

FMIC (?)
Upgraded Turbo (what do you think about BNR stage 2?)
boost guage
boost controller
maybe put the 720's in the primaries and up the secondaries to 1100
New radiator
fuel pressure regulator

Any and all input would help. Thanks
Chad
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Come on, I know there are FC's that are pushing or have cracked the 300 mark.
Also I know there are turbo wizards out there that can post their input.


What about running a to4E, a FMIC and going to a larger secondary injectors?

anybody.............. somebody....................
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youre pretty close really man. . . id say the turbo is whatll limit you. . . fmic. . . nah, radiator might be nice for protection. . . your injectors. . . im not sure if the fcon will control that kind of injector setup or not. . . just dont know.

one more thing. . . GET RID OF THAT CAT!!!! thatll definately slow down your quest!!!!

paul

oh, one more thing. . . ignition box on the leading coil.

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Old 01-31-05, 11:28 PM
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Originally Posted by rotorbrain
youre pretty close really man. . . id say the turbo is whatll limit you. . . fmic. . . nah, radiator might be nice for protection. . . your injectors. . . im not sure if the fcon will control that kind of injector setup or not. . . just dont know. one more thing. . . GET RID OF THAT CAT!!!! thatll definately slow down your quest!!!! oh, one more thing. . . ignition box on the leading coil.

I have a MSD 6a box I was gonna use (New in box).

As for the cat, I want to replace the whole setup with the RB Stainless Steel turbo system. That will get that high flow cat out of there.

The radiator I was thinking was Fluidyne, or koyo. The one I have now is a new one from Mazda trix so atleast it is new.

As for the ic I would rather upgrade it to a stock location ic rather than have a ic in the front. More of a sleeper.

Thanks for the info though paul. Once it is done to need to check it out. This time I won't go ***** to the wall with you in it! Ha ha ha
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dont worry about the radiator that much. . . upgrading the radiator is one of those reliability mods. . . it wont warrant better cooling at all. if your rad is new. . . then youre find for a few years.

and im not so sure ill EVER ride with you again!!!!

paul
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jspec.com has a hks to4e kit forsale for 600 bucks. Good deal. And the koyo is a way better radiator than fluidine Fluidine is like 58mm. and koyo is 73? or something close to that. The koyo doesn quite mount up right, but its alot bigger so... its not really gonna. And if you run a fmic youll want a bigger rad. because the stock one doesnt cool very well with the "hotter" air coming thru. I would also recommend a better fuel pump. And atleast 720s in the secondarys. I also didnt see a Bov on your list, as soon as you remove your exhaust your gonna increase boost and the stocker is not gonna cut it.

-Chris

And im starting to think that pauls a sissy. He told everyone that he feer'd for his life when he rode with me.
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Turbo is your limitation.
After that, get rid of all that HKS crap - we're not in the 80's anymore.
A stand-alone EMS will be superior.

Which turbo?
It's all on my website.
I got the URL in my .sig.


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chris, i didnt notice any difference in cooling when i put the koyo in my car. . . i really dont think it makes a difference in "cooling" on these cars. . . its more of a "hey, this thing isnt gonna break from normal use" situation. the plastic stocker crapola isnt worth a nutty turd!!!! but his is brand new sooooooooooo. . .

reted, although i agree with you about the standalone issue. . . i highly doubt the fcon will limit him to anything under 300rwhp. im sure itll work out with that piggyback.

now, chad. . . the problem you are gonna run across with that piggyback is the fact that the fcon has to be "chipped" for a different turbo if i remember correctly. am i wrong? reted could probably answer that for me.

300rwhp is pretty much attainable with what youve listed. . . and having an FMIC will definitely HELP with what youre wanting to achieve. . . plus, it looks cool. hahaha, but im a little biased.

paul
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Originally Posted by chris-reedtn
jspec.com has a hks to4e kit forsale for 600 bucks. Good deal. And the koyo is a way better radiator than fluidine Fluidine is like 58mm. and koyo is 73? or something close to that. The koyo doesn quite mount up right, but its alot bigger so... its not really gonna. And if you run a fmic youll want a bigger rad. because the stock one doesnt cool very well with the "hotter" air coming thru. I would also recommend a better fuel pump. And atleast 720s in the secondarys. I also didnt see a Bov on your list, as soon as you remove your exhaust your gonna increase boost and the stocker is not gonna cut it.

-Chris

And im starting to think that pauls a sissy. He told everyone that he feer'd for his life when he rode with me.

Ya, I want the BOV that Garfinkle has on his 7. As for the injectors I have 720s in the secondaries now. Do you think the stock 3rd gen fuel pump will not be able to handle this hp? (I can change the fuel pump. KD rotary put the 3rd gen one in)

The exhaust right now is a Bonez down pipe, high flow cat with a dynomax catback, but I want the rb stainless steel full system.

Thanks for the input


O'ya and as for the paul is a sissy thing............ I think that is what he told everyone the day he rode with me. The kicker is I wanted him to hear and feel the turbo because I was told it was stock but it don't spool like it is stock. I am sure Paul would say the same.

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Originally Posted by RETed
Turbo is your limitation.
After that, get rid of all that HKS crap - we're not in the 80's anymore.
A stand-alone EMS will be superior.

Which turbo?
It's all on my website.
I got the URL in my .sig.


-Ted

Thanks for the URL ted. As for the HKS crap......... well I have it and can't afford the stand alone. Plus all I want is to crack 300 hp and the max I would want is 350.
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Originally Posted by rotorbrain
chris,
now, chad. . . the problem you are gonna run across with that piggyback is the fact that the fcon has to be "chipped" for a different turbo if i remember correctly. am i wrong? reted could probably answer that for me.
paul

Paul your correct about the chip. I have contacted HKS and can buy the higher chip and swap them out. Plus it does not cost that much. I think it was under $100.


Thanks again guys for the help. I would like to have her done this year since the GSL-SE is about complete.
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ok give me some ideas to the hp this setup will make.



91 TII
Rebuilt motor w/ 30k miles
HKS PFC-F-CON with to4e chip
HKS Graphic Control Computer
HKS FCD
HKS Turbo Timer
2 720cc secondary injectors
3rd gen fx7 fuel pump
Jacobs Engery Core Wire Set
light weight flywheel (11lbs)
RB full stainless steel TII exhaust system
Bonez Street-Comp Intake
Factory intercooler


Still need to buy

FMIC (?)
boost guage
boost controller
fuel pressure regulator
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