need advice from a thermodynamics expert
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need advice from a thermodynamics expert
i have a bar and plate intercooler core to be used for water/air intercooling. the core size is 25x6x3.5 and is made as a verticle flow design rather than the typical sideways flow. this single intercooler will be cut into two separate intercoolers. one will cool the charge air and the other will cool the water. the problem, how do i choose where to cut?
originally i was thinking maybe using 1/3 to cool the charge air and the other 2/3 to cool the water. thinking the charge air at 12psi would be twice the ambient air temperature that it would take twice as much core to cool the water back down. of course, the heat exchanger would be mounted similar to an FMIC and the intercooler mounted somewhere in the engine bay. an icebox will also be implemented but will only contain ice for drag racing.
i'm looking for a solution that makes things balanced. i don't want the intercooler too small to cool the air, nor do i want the heat exchanger too small to cool the water.
my long term plans are 300-350whp with a turbonetics 62-1 at no more than 12psi. this leaves me in the 70% and up at all times. I live in GA. Summer temps here commonly reach the 100's. The sizing of the intercoolers should take into consideration the worst case scenario. (1)Really hot day and (2) 12psi.
i hope i didn't forget any vital information. thank you for your time.
PS: Like most FC owners, I'm working on a budget. Buying another intercooler is not an option.
originally i was thinking maybe using 1/3 to cool the charge air and the other 2/3 to cool the water. thinking the charge air at 12psi would be twice the ambient air temperature that it would take twice as much core to cool the water back down. of course, the heat exchanger would be mounted similar to an FMIC and the intercooler mounted somewhere in the engine bay. an icebox will also be implemented but will only contain ice for drag racing.
i'm looking for a solution that makes things balanced. i don't want the intercooler too small to cool the air, nor do i want the heat exchanger too small to cool the water.
my long term plans are 300-350whp with a turbonetics 62-1 at no more than 12psi. this leaves me in the 70% and up at all times. I live in GA. Summer temps here commonly reach the 100's. The sizing of the intercoolers should take into consideration the worst case scenario. (1)Really hot day and (2) 12psi.
i hope i didn't forget any vital information. thank you for your time.
PS: Like most FC owners, I'm working on a budget. Buying another intercooler is not an option.
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Advice from a thermodynamics expert:
An air-air intercooler, air-liquid intercooler, and water-coolant radiator all use DIFFERENT types of core designs. Your current plans will yield a piece of junk, regardless of how you cut it up. My advice is to abort your project and simply use the air-air intercooler in the manner it was intended by the thermodynamics experts who designed it.
An air-air intercooler, air-liquid intercooler, and water-coolant radiator all use DIFFERENT types of core designs. Your current plans will yield a piece of junk, regardless of how you cut it up. My advice is to abort your project and simply use the air-air intercooler in the manner it was intended by the thermodynamics experts who designed it.
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I wouldn't use a bar and plate for water to air, they are **** for air to air never mind water to air. I have a 3 core chargecooler here that is going on my FD and that is fine and tube, so is the rad. fin and tube gives best results but costs more.
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