Richter12x2

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First, bear with me because I'm pretty good around cars, but a total turbo noob. I've been rebuilding my NA with s4 turbo manifolds - all was good but the turbo I ordered (stock s4, HT18) was seized - so I took it apart to see what was the matter, and the intake wheel is shot, and there's scorch on the exhaust side, with a big crack on the intake side.

I'm trying to get this done as cheap as I can, and as safe as I can - I went S4 because I figured I can port the wastegate, and with a perfectly sane target of 250-275hp, I ought to get a couple 10's of thousands of miles out of it. I also figured I could get used to turbos by using the stock plumbing, the stock mounting, the stock everything, and it would be easier than trying hit a homerun my first time at bat.

Now I can't seem to find a place to order parts for the HT18, and don't even have an idea how much they'd run compared to a new turbo. I'm seeing Garrett's going on Ebay for ~$150, so it's hard to spend $50-100 on a used one, but at the same time, I don't want to end up with a monster turbo that I can't keep the boost down on to be safe for the higher compression rotors.

Any ideas or recommendations?

sLoW'n'StEaDy

for $150 i doubt they are true garretts

i have a nice S4 turbo but seems like the price i want would be too expensive for you...

Richter12x2

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Let me see if I can get my money back for this destroyed one, or how this works out. The guy I bought it from has a couple of good feedback posts, and he's been pretty straight with me throughout this whole deal.

Truthfully, I'd rather buy a functional s4 turbo and rebuild it so I know that everything's good then spend extra money and try to get by without rebuilding it.

Maybe it wasn't Garrett I saw, but there's a brand new t3/t4 turbo for $209. I'd really prefer to get a good s4 turbo for around $50 and drop another $80 on a rebuild kit - but with a cracked intake side and shredded intake wheel, there's not much I can do with this one.

sLoW'n'StEaDy

oh... the one i have is said to have less than 2000 miles on it. I am lookin to get $125
or i have a couple new T70s (good for 500+hp) im trying for $250 ea.

Richter12x2

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That's a great deal, if it really has 2000 miles on it. There's a guy on the other forum selling a one with the manifold for $100 though. :1

Is there nowhere I can go to get parts for the turbo though? I can't even find individual parts in my Mazda parts diagrams.

sLoW'n'StEaDy

my price was also with manifold.

Richter12x2

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Would you sell it without the manifold?

sLoW'n'StEaDy

I could knock it down to $100...

Richter12x2

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I may take you up on that, but it'll be a couple of days before I get paid. You don't have to hold it for me or anything, though. Let me go ahead and ask now - it turns freely by hand, right?

sLoW'n'StEaDy

yeah, it does. didnt notice any play either, ill check net time i head out to the garage. It is VERY clean IMO. doesnt look much worse then the T70s i stiff have all packaged up...

dregg100

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are those ebay t-70s?

Richter12x2

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I figured it probably did, but after the last one. . . as the proverb goes "fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me"

sLoW'n'StEaDy

yeah, the are made by A.P.E.
Me and quite a few of my friends run them on other cars with no problems. My buddy made roughly 550HP/620TQ on his 5.0 mustang with only a set of heads running 15#

I had one of there 60-1 on my DSM for a while pushing about 18# with no problems (sold the car. There are also a few people over on thirdgen.org using them making upwards of 800+HP

dregg100

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im sorry to jack ur thread dude.

what does a.p.e. stand for? never heard of that brand.