My turbo that will hopefully propel me into the 500's
02-17-07, 09:10 AM
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My turbo that will hopefully propel me into the 500's
Well I ended up going bdc hbp and a t70 instead of going street port and t61. Sold the t61 and bought this bad boy 
Got it locally from a guy that bought one and never installed it. (sorry bobybeach) It's a Masterpower t70 with polished compressor housing, .96 tang hotside, ceramic coated turbine, ceramic coated ssauc manifold and tial 40mm wastegate. Can't deside wether or not to upgrade my microtech lt10s to a 3bar or only shoot for 20psi. You guys think 20psi is enough for the 500hp mark on a hbp or should I go with the 3bar and up the boost?
Got it locally from a guy that bought one and never installed it. (sorry bobybeach) It's a Masterpower t70 with polished compressor housing, .96 tang hotside, ceramic coated turbine, ceramic coated ssauc manifold and tial 40mm wastegate. Can't deside wether or not to upgrade my microtech lt10s to a 3bar or only shoot for 20psi. You guys think 20psi is enough for the 500hp mark on a hbp or should I go with the 3bar and up the boost?
02-19-07, 02:24 PM
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same setup i'm installing now
the 3 bar setup would probably be nice to have but if you are only planning on pushing to 20PSI then the LT8s is capable of that. i'm going to have mine converted to 3 bar in the near future to be sure i can take advantage of the methanol and also to be sure i get it over the 500WHP mark. my ECU has to go back anyways to have it converted to a ign cut for the 2 step anyways.
the 3 bar setup would probably be nice to have but if you are only planning on pushing to 20PSI then the LT8s is capable of that. i'm going to have mine converted to 3 bar in the near future to be sure i can take advantage of the methanol and also to be sure i get it over the 500WHP mark. my ECU has to go back anyways to have it converted to a ign cut for the 2 step anyways.
02-19-07, 03:07 PM
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You can, I did 480@19psi..boost leaking, heat soaking, you name it!
02-19-07, 03:54 PM
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Damn, you really stepped up your game, both on the engine porting and turbo sizing. Plus, you've got all the polished/coated goodies as well, yum! I agree that 500 at 20 psi shouldn't be a stretch for this setup if everything is in order 
02-19-07, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Slammedblk7
You can, I did 480@19psi..boost leaking, heat soaking, you name it!
gona bring it out to the dallas cannonball run next month?
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02-19-07, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by SingleTurboRx7
what size turbo you running now?
gona bring it out to the dallas cannonball run next month?
gona bring it out to the dallas cannonball run next month?
02-19-07, 05:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Karack
same setup i'm installing now
the 3 bar setup would probably be nice to have but if you are only planning on pushing to 20PSI then the LT8s is capable of that. i'm going to have mine converted to 3 bar in the near future to be sure i can take advantage of the methanol and also to be sure i get it over the 500WHP mark. my ECU has to go back anyways to have it converted to a ign cut for the 2 step anyways.
the 3 bar setup would probably be nice to have but if you are only planning on pushing to 20PSI then the LT8s is capable of that. i'm going to have mine converted to 3 bar in the near future to be sure i can take advantage of the methanol and also to be sure i get it over the 500WHP mark. my ECU has to go back anyways to have it converted to a ign cut for the 2 step anyways.
Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Damn, you really stepped up your game, both on the engine porting and turbo sizing. Plus, you've got all the polished/coated goodies as well, yum! I agree that 500 at 20 psi shouldn't be a stretch for this setup if everything is in order
The turbo is no 500r but I think I can live with this one.
Originally Posted by Slammedblk7
You can, I did 480@19psi..boost leaking, heat soaking, you name it!
edit: also just a general question about this setup. If I have a 12 and a 5lb spring should I use those combined to reach 17 for daily driving and 20 for high boost? I guess what I'm asking is a 17lb spring rate best for 17-20psi or would only the 12 or only the 5 be better? Doubt the 5 would be good but maybe the 12lb alone would have better effects on boost? Thanks again for the input guys.
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02-19-07, 05:45 PM
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if your serious about running 17psi daily then go for the dual spring action but you'll be fine running the 12psi spring. you'll be able to use a boost controller to get over 20 no problem.
i wouldn't compare this turbo to the 500r, it's going to flow a bit more. this also the same turbo i have on my large streetport/ half bridgie TII setup mine is a Q-trim 1.0. you should see 15 - 17psi around 4800rpms... only about 400rpms slower spool than a 500r on a stock port REW.... yes im serious. your half bridge will helps spool that monster like crazy. ENJOY!
i wouldn't compare this turbo to the 500r, it's going to flow a bit more. this also the same turbo i have on my large streetport/ half bridgie TII setup
mine is a Q-trim 1.0. you should see 15 - 17psi around 4800rpms... only about 400rpms slower spool than a 500r on a stock port REW.... yes im serious. your half bridge will helps spool that monster like crazy. ENJOY!
02-19-07, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Clinton, are you lost? We never see SingleTurboRx7 in the Single Turbo section
02-19-07, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by No_Rotor_RX7
if your serious about running 17psi daily then go for the dual spring action but you'll be fine running the 12psi spring. you'll be able to use a boost controller to get over 20 no problem.
i wouldn't compare this turbo to the 500r, it's going to flow a bit more. this also the same turbo i have on my large streetport/ half bridgie TII setup mine is a Q-trim 1.0. you should see 15 - 17psi around 4800rpms... only about 400rpms slower spool than a 500r on a stock port REW.... yes im serious. your half bridge will helps spool that monster like crazy. ENJOY!
i wouldn't compare this turbo to the 500r, it's going to flow a bit more. this also the same turbo i have on my large streetport/ half bridgie TII setup
mine is a Q-trim 1.0. you should see 15 - 17psi around 4800rpms... only about 400rpms slower spool than a 500r on a stock port REW.... yes im serious. your half bridge will helps spool that monster like crazy. ENJOY! Thats really the hole reason I went this route was because of the great things i've heard about hbp's and the great spool on larger turbos that they can produce. So what kind of power are you seeing with your setup and on how much boost?
02-19-07, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by SingleTurboRx7
what size turbo you running now?
gona bring it out to the dallas cannonball run next month?
gona bring it out to the dallas cannonball run next month?
02-19-07, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by hondahater
Thanks for chiming in, I know you had this setup before so I always like to here from you and the results you had. I know you had a bigger exhaust side than me (I've got a .96) so I'm sure the results will be differant because of this, but how much is the question. Did you use a log style manifold for the turbo? Also what size wastegate did you use? Thanks again for the info.
edit: also just a general question about this setup. If I have a 12 and a 5lb spring should I use those combined to reach 17 for daily driving and 20 for high boost? I guess what I'm asking is a 17lb spring rate best for 17-20psi or would only the 12 or only the 5 be better? Doubt the 5 would be good but maybe the 12lb alone would have better effects on boost? Thanks again for the input guys.
I was using the 1.15 turbine housing, so Im sure you I might hit boost slightly quicker. I was hitting 1 bar around 4200rpm(texas heat). I did use the HKS log manifold with and HKS standard wastegate. Around 5500rpm it is a beast!
Also the 12psi spring will work just fine for 20psi. That is what I was using.
02-19-07, 07:55 PM
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awesome thanks man! Do you think you where making more hp because of the bigger turbine? I know the .96 will spool faster but I know the 1.15 flows more thus probably having a possitive effect on hp up top. Thanks again for the info, can't wait to run some of the little boys here in town, lol.
02-19-07, 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by hondahater
awesome thanks man! Do you think you where making more hp because of the bigger turbine? I know the .96 will spool faster but I know the 1.15 flows more thus probably having a possitive effect on hp up top. Thanks again for the info, can't wait to run some of the little boys here in town, lol.
02-19-07, 08:36 PM
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NICE!!!!!! I have a friend with a turbo'd 240sx (18g) and another with an evo (16g with alky) and a few with crazy honda swap/gutted rides and they all think they're going to spank me on the track but thats just cause they don't know anything about a turbo'd 13b So how is that bp and gt45 treating you?
So how is that bp and gt45 treating you?
02-19-07, 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by hondahater
NICE!!!!!! I have a friend with a turbo'd 240sx (18g) and another with an evo (16g with alky) and a few with crazy honda swap/gutted rides and they all think they're going to spank me on the track but thats just cause they don't know anything about a turbo'd 13b So how is that bp and gt45 treating you?
So how is that bp and gt45 treating you?Well I havent gotten to really push the car yet, I will though in like 3 weeks!
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nice, i am curious as to the difference between the T70 and GT45... i won't have my setup broken in for another little while. i work on way too many customer cars to get anything done on mine 
but it will pull like all hell i am sure of this
my personal experience on this setup comes from tuning my friends FC (hbp, T70, rb dual exhaust, etc..) that thing pulled like a fuggin beast to me.. and i drive 400+hp FD's every day. that car made them feel sloooow hahaha
it did something like 330 - 350rwhp @ 10psi untuned. never got to dyno it after the tune and 15psi. he had 285's in the rear and it would lite them up on the highway
but it will pull like all hell i am sure of this
my personal experience on this setup comes from tuning my friends FC (hbp, T70, rb dual exhaust, etc..) that thing pulled like a fuggin beast to me.. and i drive 400+hp FD's every day. that car made them feel sloooow hahaha
it did something like 330 - 350rwhp @ 10psi untuned. never got to dyno it after the tune and 15psi. he had 285's in the rear and it would lite them up on the highway
02-20-07, 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by hondahater
I think I'll go ahead and keep it at 20psi and then later on if I "need" more power I'll go with the 3bar map sensor. Thats interesting how you have to send your mt off for the 2step. I thought they came with it? Or is it that it doesn't use ign cut for two step? So what does it use? fuel cut.
fuel cut unfortunately, yes.
02-20-07, 02:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Karack
fuel cut unfortunately, yes.
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i love reading this stuff!!
makes me want to get my car done NOW!
no BP though
just a streetport:/
makes me want to get my car done NOW!
no BP though
just a streetport:/
Originally Posted by No_Rotor_RX7
nice, i am curious as to the difference between the T70 and GT45... i won't have my setup broken in for another little while. i work on way too many customer cars to get anything done on mine
but it will pull like all hell i am sure of this
my personal experience on this setup comes from tuning my friends FC (hbp, T70, rb dual exhaust, etc..) that thing pulled like a fuggin beast to me.. and i drive 400+hp FD's every day. that car made them feel sloooow hahaha
it did something like 330 - 350rwhp @ 10psi untuned. never got to dyno it after the tune and 15psi. he had 285's in the rear and it would lite them up on the highway
but it will pull like all hell i am sure of this
my personal experience on this setup comes from tuning my friends FC (hbp, T70, rb dual exhaust, etc..) that thing pulled like a fuggin beast to me.. and i drive 400+hp FD's every day. that car made them feel sloooow hahaha
it did something like 330 - 350rwhp @ 10psi untuned. never got to dyno it after the tune and 15psi. he had 285's in the rear and it would lite them up on the highway
I love hearing it from peoples experiances and from what you discribed I will be nothing short of amazed! I'm going to send my ecu off to brian to have him put a rough tune on it and then will be driving up to get it tuned as soon as I'm done with everything. Maybe at that time I'll dyno it and have some more numbers to support this increasingly popular setup.
Originally Posted by Slammedblk7
Well I havent gotten to really push the car yet, I will though in like 3 weeks!
02-20-07, 02:48 AM
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Originally Posted by hondahater
That does suck! I wanted to use the 2step on mine as well for those times at the track but thought you could use either or? How much is it to change this?
seeing as how just about anything they have to change in the ECU it is generally about $200 plus shipping to and from.
contemplating just ordering another with the features i need and just selling mine but i'm willing to bet they still charge me an arm and part of a leg for the 2 simple changes i need done.