allrotor93

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14 psi spring

blueskaterboy

is your car ready yet?!

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I dropped My car off at Demitrous's. I took a look at that Turbo and its a Serious Hunk of Metal. Dwarfs my GT3540. I cant wait till its in the car and tuned

rzograbian

Max, do you think you will make it for sevenstock??? (WITH the turbo installed and tuned?)

i want to see that thing! it looks like you are the first to get the turbo and most likely the first to install it....... post lots of pics!

maxcooper

I will have the car at SevenStock unless things go horribly wrong. It probably won't be tuned, though. I'll try to break it in and get some tuning done if there is time, but I suspect I will be picking it up on Friday and putzing it to SevenStock on Saturday. I'm postponing some stuff until after SevenStock just so I can get the car done in time. We'll see...

I didn't take any pics, but it looks just like the picture on kgparts.com.

-Max

1FooknTiteFD

Update:

I have just seen an installed version of the kit. The turbo is HUUUUUUUUUUUGE! however it's so huge that when installed, it is close to the engine wall.

Also, the downpipe doesn't mate well with the midpipe.
And also, the turbo kit was missing a lot of parts as well (bolts, lines, etc..)

I want to see what kind of power it makes though, but I doubt it will spool fast

rotor_dee

The first 2 kits we sent out went out with the bottom of the downpipe flange a little off due to the test car having a modified midpipe I have expressed my apologizes to those two individuals and the pipes will be taken care of.

As far as the missing parts the only parts missing was the four bolts for the turbo wich is also taken care of. There were no lines missing in any kit that went out just on line damaged in shipping.

As far as spool up you can doubt all you want

I do appreciate the feedback as we will consider making improvements if any of the end users have good ideas.

Dee

1FooknTiteFD

The turbokit didn't come with any gaskets or clamps besides the gasket between the turbo and manifold. To install the kit you have to purchase the exhaust manifold gasket which were around $90 each. All japanese or other mass produced turbo kits usually come with all these parts in question so that they are indeed ready to bolt in.

I still continue to doubt the spool up. When the car was idling the turbo can be stopped by hand! Based upon that I find it hard to believe it will be fully spooled by 4000rpm.

Oh yeah, and the turbo kit indeed bangs on the strut tower when you push down on it since it's so big and sits so high.

We'll wait for the dyno charts I guess

CCarlisi

Most of the kits I have looked at don't come with these gaskets. If the stock gaskets fit ok I don't think it's the vendor's responsibility to provide replacements. In this case it sounds as though you want him to provide them because your gaskets are WORN rather than because they do not FIT. Why add extra cost to the kit when only a handful of people may need replacements and they can be purchased through a Mazda dealer?

You stuck your hand into the turbo with the car running?? I'd hate to watch you use a blender.


Who is tuning your car?

Best,

Chris C.

1FooknTiteFD

My apex'i kit and my friend's HKS kits come with all the gaskets neccessary.

XS engineering tuned my car and I also have experience with OSDesigns.

The blades were spinning so slow, it was easy to stop it with my hand.

Also, does anyone know what kind of turbo it is? Conveniently, all the information was sanded off the turbo.

Does anyone have their R85 on the dyno besides the ones provided by KGparts? I am very curious indeed as to how the turbo will perform.

allrotor93

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i think max will probably be the first on the dyno. dee hates dynos, as do i. i will try to get onto one when he finishes my motor.

rotor_dee

We do not provide exhaust manifold gaskets. I have installed xs to4 kit greddy t78 and greddy t88 and gt3540 none of which came with engine exhaust gasket. As for your spool up test I am not quite sure sticking your finger in the turbo while the car is idling is a valid test but I will look into it. But you may have managed to void you buddies turbo warranty as F.O.D (foreign object damage) is not covered and I think inserting your finger into a turbo can be justified a foreign object

I'm sure the turbo performs as advertised when installed on a properly functioning vehicle accompanied by the necessary modifications i.e. fuel system intercooler motor. I performed the entire dyno test and this is the turbo I used to first propel my FD into the 9's as a full unibody car without n20.

Did you purchase this kit? I do not remember you from the list. The customers that have received the kits so far are happy and the 2 issues we had we resolved as I mentioned earlier. I did some research on your screen name and it seems you have a personal beef with Keith of KG parts. I would suggest you settle it and stop bashing the parts they make which are functioning well on a majority of the members on this forum especially when you don’t even own this particular product.

Demetrios

1FooknTiteFD

No I don't own the kit. I am just enquiring because I might change my single turbo set up later on and the R85 and the GT40R seems to be the hot turbos these days so naturally I am skeptical about their performance. As I mentioned earlier, I have no doubt that the turbo kit will produce power, but in your opinion dee, do you think this turbo is built for drag, road race, auto-x? Oh yeah, no one has told me what kind of turbo this is yet either? Garret, Holset, KKK????

j9fd3s

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not to be a dick, but the serial numbers being removed prolly voids the warranty too.

i saw the same kit. i like the manifold, that extra bracing should make it a durable peice

rotor_dee

No offense taken J9 I want to address any legitamate issues people have with the kit / warranty issues etc etc. Thanks for the compliment on the manifold we are very happy with the finished product.

With this said I feel it is important to address the warranty issue. I do not have enough time in the day to sit around and grind of serial #'s . I do not remove any serial numbers from the turbo. The way you get the turbo is the way it comes from my supplier. There is no secret where I get my turbos from as my car is sponsored by TEC. The turbo is a member of TEC's performance series turbos as is the one I use on my 8 sec drag car soon to be seven . I have had great results with realiablity with these units. To be exact I have a spare in a box in my trailer that has been there for 2 season and has yet to be used.

So for those of you that do not put you feet or hands on the tubo while it is working you should be fine. All kidding a side the bottom line is I have used the product for years and I believe in it. This combined with the quality of the kit and the low price I feel alot of other RX7 owners will enjoy it as well.

mavila

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Okay, let me post since I'm the owner of the installed R85 kit being talked about. First of all, I am less than thrilled that anyone other than the guy doing the install is poking, prodding, and generally critiquing the kit that I am having installed without me even being around. I didn't have the time or see the need to babysit the install, which is being done by somebody I trust. I also live several hundred miles away from where the work is being done. Mess with someone else's kit, or at least have the courtesy to wait until I'm around to screw around with what's in my engine bay.

Some of the turbo kit issues mentioned were noted and discussed privately with Demetrios and Keith, and I had no idea this had been aired on a public forum until now. I barely get on the forum these days since I've been so busy at work and shuffling back and forth between Portland and the Bay Area. To be fair, both Keith and Demetrios have been very accomodating, accepting of my early feedback, and more than willing to work with me on the downpipe/midpipe fitment issues.

I'm guessing I end up with the first fully installed and tuned kit. Not to steal any of Max's thunder, but I'll be picking up my car this weekend and having the remaining custom pipes done in the next few days. Then the car will sit for 2 weeks because I'm too busy and out of town, after which it will be taken down to XS Engineering for the install of the secondary fuel rail, injectors, and FPR, and the tuning. If all goes well, my car will be running by the weekend of 9/12, complete with dyno results.

- Mike

Erdin

I cant wait to see does dyno results iv also ordered the kit and cant wait to see it fitted and running it should be the only one in the UK. I keep coming back to this forum to see if there has been any progress on Max’s car or anyone else’s

maxcooper

Progress on my car: The turbo is attached to the engine, but the engine isn't in the car yet! It will drive to SevenStock under its own power, which means I will have to tune it at least a little bit to keep myself sane.

-Max

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Your supposed test of the turbo with your fingers doesnt prove much. How much air the blades move compared to a smaller wheel? Rpm at idle is pointless and worthless unless you have equpitment to read airflow. Unless you are flow benching it your info is totally worthless. Your observations are Novice at best.
The owners have already been told what type of turbos are being used. Dee is a No Bullshit type of guy for those who dont know him. Its a service to the community that he even posts on this Forum
He would probably be more active if it wasnt for the Morons spouting B.S. Like this.

1FooknTiteFD

It's called logic which a lot of people in this forum don't seem to have. A fast spooling turbo will spin faster at idle because it requires less exhaust gases to propel the blades whereas a turbo with more lag which requires more spool up will spin slower at idle because it takes more exhaust gases to propel the blades. The R85 moves so slow at idle you can stop it from spinning with your fingers (not that I have done it just to clarify). Check for yourself, go look at a T04E or an Apex'i RX6 and then look at a big laggy turbo and see which one spins faster at idle.

rotor_dee

You are missing something in your equation. How much air does the turbo flow at a given compressor speed. Just because a given turbo is spinning slower doesent mean it is flowing less air otherwise there would be no such thing as compressor maps Less compressor speed also heats the compressed air less.

Wargasm

Everyone is very excited to see how this new kit performs, so people are trying to test it early with observations like "man it's BIG", or the "finger test" (haha)...

In the end, we'll just have to measure how big the grins are on the faces of the owners when they punch it...

I think we'll have some big grins posting on the forums soon!

Brian

1FooknTiteFD

You're absolutely right, we'll wait for the dyno sheets to prove the turbo whenever someone gets a chance

rotor_dee

just so others are not misled that are new to the topic. The kit was dynoed on my car with stock and non stock intake manifold. The dyno sheets have been out for two years. As for other persons results well you know how the story goes some people with t78's make 330rwhp and some make 400rwhp at 15psi but no one talks **** about the turbo. I guarantee you the first poorly tuned car or bad motor that dynos bad you vultures will be on my case like stink on ****. Let's just say there are tons of haters on this list. I give up

Demetrios

ErnieT

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How many haters will there be when my CYM goes 9's?! LOL.......