Viking War Hammer

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Gave up on the MSD and went with M&W.

It's the M&W Pro14-Rotary and 4 CDI Ferrite M&W Coils (Pak005).

What plug wires would you recommend?

JdmRX

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i used the stock 3rd gen magnacor wires on it.

Viking War Hammer

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Normally I would go by the manufacturers recommendation (M&W Recommends Magnecore). But, I have to question that.

Their manual says to use Magnecor Wires, and also says to use non resistor plugs to reduce energy loss.

I used Magnecor Wires on the dyno last month and ran into interference issues while running non resistor plugs. We fixed that problem by swapping out for some resistor plugs.

What do you guys think? Should I just ignore my previous problems and go with what they recommend?


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enzo250

I use MSD 8.5mm spark plug wire... Never had an issue...

Viking War Hammer

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Do you happen to know which model number? I want to make sure they include the 90 on the spark plug side and make sure the coil side fits the mercury coil.

Viking War Hammer

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Alright, I went ahead and ordered the MSD 121-31239 kit. It comes with both style ends so I can hopefully get it right.

Should I mount these coils so the trailing coils are on the outside, try to keep them away from each other? Sort of mount them like yours, Enzo?

enzo250

I use universal stuff and make my own wires.. So buy the msd 8.5 wire, and buy the terminals seperately and make the wires..

As for mounting them mount them whichever way is good for you.. Just make sure you keep the magnets on the coils safe from vibrations... I usually use velcro underneath them.. Use the furry side..

Viking War Hammer

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Yeah, the kit I bought was universal.

So, you still bolt them them right? You just lay some velcro underneath first?

enzo250

yes you still use the mounting brackets to mount coils just put some velcro underneath...

synergy7

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I have the same exact unit (M&W pro14) but with the Bosch coils. I am running MSD wires with no problems. I know M&W recommends Magnicore wires however i had a set years ago on my 1st gen and they each separated at the boot when I was change spark plugs. MSD seems to be very well made and performe well.

Hyper4mance2k

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msd 8.5's are good, but magnecor are better.

Viking War Hammer

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Well, I've had problems with magnecor in the past and the msd wires are being recommended by guys pushing 1,000 hp. That's enough to convince me to use msd wires.

enzo250

MSD wires are on 8000hp fuel cars.. i don't remember seeing magnecor on them....

fdracer

lol, this statement doesn't mean anything, last i checked they don't run m&w stuff either. by your logic you should be running an msd vs. an m&w ignition system. those teams get a lot of sponsorship from msd.

regardless, i agree with your general statement that msd wires are better than magnecor. just saying that your specific example isn't an apt justification. basically, what i'm saying is there's alot of sponsorship deals, exclusive licensing agreements, rules restrictions at that level of the sport, so one can't always assume that what they use is the best.

enzo250

Well you can rest assured whatever is on a fuel car is not there because it's free..
It's there because it's the best...

And believe me if I had the cash i would be running a MSD Pro Mag44 on my car..

Uncle Hungry

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This isn't really true. I used to be on a team for GM and we HAD to run a MSD box they gave us. We fried it on a regular basis, it was nicknamed "the shitbox". We also had to run a Pechtel, because GM said so, and they already had it. It's a fine system, but not suited for drag racing.

enzo250

I agree in certain situations your required to run certain systems and that's it...

In a fuel car spark is a very important aspect.. They are not gonna cut corners there...
They run insane amounts of fuel and it must get burned.. This is why they run dual mags...
It provides the absolute most spark you'll ever get...

have a look at the spark from a Pro Mag 44
http://www.msdvideos.com/video_detail.php?mId=5793

Hyper4mance2k

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I run the MSD 8.5 wires on my car because they're cost effective and I've never heard a bad thing about them, other than the brutal bashing of them on magnecor's website. Ive never seen a bad magnecor story until now, good to know.

Viking War Hammer

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Do you guys know which boots fit the mercury coils? My MSD kit came with two style boots but both are too small.

synergy7

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Not sure about all the "hear say" I can only speak of my personal experience (and I am running M&W)

I think the MSD are fine for your application

Viking War Hammer

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Thanks, got the wires made and everything fits up nicely.

dguy

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Hey Viking War Hammer, what water pump and adapter is that? I've only seen the Meziere adapters. Thanks much!