just dyno'd precision 6262 .84 on a ported engine
05-17-13, 08:35 AM
#51
Rotary Enthusiast
keep trying mate.
Then why criticise the manufacture for the OP wrong purchase ?
If one manifold does it all I look forward to you making it and capturing the entire market of all rx7s and all turbo cars globally.
:jerkit
Then why criticise the manufacture for the OP wrong purchase ?
If one manifold does it all I look forward to you making it and capturing the entire market of all rx7s and all turbo cars globally.
:jerkit
05-25-13, 08:20 PM
#55
so i have an update.
got my new turblown dual wastegate manifold on, went for my maiden voyage, got the downpipe angle added and sealed up, then i discovered i had the wrong springs in the wastegates, so it was overboosting... took the wastegates off and saw this:
got my new turblown dual wastegate manifold on, went for my maiden voyage, got the downpipe angle added and sealed up, then i discovered i had the wrong springs in the wastegates, so it was overboosting... took the wastegates off and saw this:
05-28-13, 12:13 PM
#60
well i have an update. i changed the springs in the gates (running one 9psi black spring in each now) put them back on, and i can now hold 9psi all the way to redline 
i'm going to discuss the inlets exhaust leaks with elliot and see what he has to say.
i am happy that i can now control my boost, but i do feel that this $850 manifold should seal up like a damn aquarium
i'm going to discuss the inlets exhaust leaks with elliot and see what he has to say.
i am happy that i can now control my boost, but i do feel that this $850 manifold should seal up like a damn aquarium
05-28-13, 04:26 PM
#63
Original Gangster/Rotary!
iTrader: (213)
Man, lots of armchair quarterbacking and **** talking in this thread, unreal 
So the WGs arent sealing and it's automatically the manifold? Seriously? It could be a lot of things, including install error.
So the WGs arent sealing and it's automatically the manifold? Seriously? It could be a lot of things, including install error.
05-29-13, 12:18 PM
#65
F**K THE SYSTEM!!
If you don't forget the valve seat, my wastgate v band bolt won't even reach he other threaded side.. I don't see how one could clamp v-band on without it seating properly, at least not on my turbos art comp40's
05-29-13, 02:31 PM
#66
yeah i got it seated properly. i put each wastegate on and had to grab each clamp with channel locks to get the V's to come together (i'm guessing because of the inner ring and spring pressure). it's basically impossible to get the clamp on without going this unless you leave the sealing ring off...
05-30-13, 11:27 AM
#67
If Elliot were a DB he wouldn't be here trying to make it right. We've seen plenty of bad vendors here, and from what I've seen Turblown is downright legit.
Keep cracking on your setup and she'll come around. This is why most people can't/don't/won't build good machines.
Keep cracking on your setup and she'll come around. This is why most people can't/don't/won't build good machines.
05-30-13, 09:20 PM
#68
I already spoke to Jacob, and it appears based on his description that one of the flanges might be warped. I checked all the other manifolds in house and none were warped. I'm not exactly sure what the problem is, but have offered to check and fix it. We usually don't resurface wg flanges because they are stepped, and not a whole ton of heat is applied there. I'll just double check them personally from now on.
05-30-13, 09:40 PM
#69
Original Gangster/Rotary!
iTrader: (213)
Thanks for weighing in E-money 
Btw, I have to say that my Precision 6466 rocked the house at 20 psi on my old setup..... I was surprised at the broad powerband to say the least
Btw, I have to say that my Precision 6466 rocked the house at 20 psi on my old setup..... I was surprised at the broad powerband to say the least
05-31-13, 12:36 AM
#70
thanks for the replies guys.
i got my downpipe v-band'd at the bottom and added a flex section. downpipe is complete and very nice. and best of all, no exhaust leaks on the downpipe.
the manifold however:
i removed the manifold and removed the wastegates from the manifold. i laid one of my fresh new vband inlet rings i have sitting around (they come with new wastegate purchases) up against the sealing surface of both the manifold vband rings and had a visible "teeter totter" on each one --one was worse than the other-- and though it was minor, it's enough to be an audible leak on each gate. i took a long flat file to both rings and could not remove enough material to get them flat (no access to a belt sander or mill, of course).
elliot says he is sold out of manifolds, so i can't get a replacement short notice (i'm guessing a few weeks out? i didnt verify this with him) so i may discuss a refund with him and purchase a different manifold.
i could possibly get this one flattened at a machine shop, or get new rings welded to it locally, or mail it to elliot to fix, but i really don't want to mess with it anymore (and really i shouldnt have to mess with a $850 manifold). there is nothing i hate more on cars than exhaust leaks.
i got my downpipe v-band'd at the bottom and added a flex section. downpipe is complete and very nice. and best of all, no exhaust leaks on the downpipe.
the manifold however:
i removed the manifold and removed the wastegates from the manifold. i laid one of my fresh new vband inlet rings i have sitting around (they come with new wastegate purchases) up against the sealing surface of both the manifold vband rings and had a visible "teeter totter" on each one --one was worse than the other-- and though it was minor, it's enough to be an audible leak on each gate. i took a long flat file to both rings and could not remove enough material to get them flat (no access to a belt sander or mill, of course).
elliot says he is sold out of manifolds, so i can't get a replacement short notice (i'm guessing a few weeks out? i didnt verify this with him) so i may discuss a refund with him and purchase a different manifold.
i could possibly get this one flattened at a machine shop, or get new rings welded to it locally, or mail it to elliot to fix, but i really don't want to mess with it anymore (and really i shouldnt have to mess with a $850 manifold). there is nothing i hate more on cars than exhaust leaks.
05-31-13, 11:43 AM
#71
I already spoke to Jacob, and it appears based on his description that one of the flanges might be warped. I checked all the other manifolds in house and none were warped. I'm not exactly sure what the problem is, but have offered to check and fix it. We usually don't resurface wg flanges because they are stepped, and not a whole ton of heat is applied there. I'll just double check them personally from now on.
05-31-13, 03:12 PM
#72
Rotary Enthusiast
I think ive warped every flange that i have ever welded lol. maybe i get too excited with the TIG.
i saw in the hot rod magazine that if you color the seating surface with a sharpie and file flat across, you will hit only the high spots. and once you addressed those 1 swipe should take off all of the marker with 1 swoop.
in reality your right you shouldn't have to mess with high dollar stuff. but i found out over my entire build thats not always the case....
the turblown manifold is definately the most simple in design vs others. which is why it appeals to me.
but im not even running the turblown manifold when i was looking around i was mad that people charged so much money for 4 flanges and 2 runners.
so i bought a track forged manifold for $600 and cant complain about **** that isn't my own fault.
i saw in the hot rod magazine that if you color the seating surface with a sharpie and file flat across, you will hit only the high spots. and once you addressed those 1 swipe should take off all of the marker with 1 swoop.
in reality your right you shouldn't have to mess with high dollar stuff. but i found out over my entire build thats not always the case....
the turblown manifold is definately the most simple in design vs others. which is why it appeals to me.
but im not even running the turblown manifold when i was looking around i was mad that people charged so much money for 4 flanges and 2 runners.
so i bought a track forged manifold for $600 and cant complain about **** that isn't my own fault.
05-31-13, 07:38 PM
#73
I think ive warped every flange that i have ever welded lol. maybe i get too excited with the TIG.
i saw in the hot rod magazine that if you color the seating surface with a sharpie and file flat across, you will hit only the high spots. and once you addressed those 1 swipe should take off all of the marker with 1 swoop.
in reality your right you shouldn't have to mess with high dollar stuff. but i found out over my entire build thats not always the case....
the turblown manifold is definately the most simple in design vs others. which is why it appeals to me.
but im not even running the turblown manifold when i was looking around i was mad that people charged so much money for 4 flanges and 2 runners.
so i bought a track forged manifold for $600 and cant complain about **** that isn't my own fault.
i saw in the hot rod magazine that if you color the seating surface with a sharpie and file flat across, you will hit only the high spots. and once you addressed those 1 swipe should take off all of the marker with 1 swoop.
in reality your right you shouldn't have to mess with high dollar stuff. but i found out over my entire build thats not always the case....
the turblown manifold is definately the most simple in design vs others. which is why it appeals to me.
but im not even running the turblown manifold when i was looking around i was mad that people charged so much money for 4 flanges and 2 runners.
so i bought a track forged manifold for $600 and cant complain about **** that isn't my own fault.
No comment....
05-31-13, 07:54 PM
#74
I ran into a warped wastegate flange on the last manifold i built. Since it was stepped there is really not much i can do.... however I did get the idea to use a piece of solid copper wire like 16 or 18 ga and I made a ring with straight cuts to meet each other and I placed it into the step and bolted the wategate on. It flattened in the high areas and sealed in the low areas.
In result I had no more annoying leak.
Kinda redneck but sure beats buying a new flange and re-welding and ending up with another warped flange.
hope this helps someone.
-Nate
In result I had no more annoying leak.
Kinda redneck but sure beats buying a new flange and re-welding and ending up with another warped flange.
hope this helps someone.
-Nate
