I need opinions on a T72 with Q wheel and .96 housing
06-24-04, 07:21 PM
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coincidently i came across 2 more people that stated that a q wheel was too big for street use, at first this was not the trend but now im hearing more and more that q wheel is not the way to go. they are all sugesting the p wheel with a .96 housing.
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06-24-04, 07:30 PM
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a friend of mine who sells turbos told me that , the difference between q , and p wheel is not so many big . The problem is to choose the correct hotside a/r , for every application .
06-24-04, 08:50 PM
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I sent this e-mail to cheapturbo.com
Thinking of upgrading my Garrett T66 .96 p-trim to your T72 .96 q-trim. My current exhaust housing has the 3inch v-band attachment welded on it. Does yours? Or what is involved in getting this option? What is the possibility of your Turbonetics .96 housing replacing my Garrett .96 housing with out modifying my down pipe? One more question about exhaust CFM. I am currently running a 13b with very large exhaust ports. With the current exhaust housing and p-trim wheel I am seeing to much back pressure over 20 psi of boost. If I go with the Q-trim wheel how much more CFM will I be able to flow and how much less back pressure will I have? Should I upgrade to a 3.5 or 4 inch down pipe to help relieve some back pressure when I upgrade to your T72 .96 q-trim? Thanks for your inputs/suggestions.
The dyno sheet in your 400hp section is mine, way back when I ran your T3 60-1, on a stock 13b motor.
And this was there reply. I have bought from them and cheapturbo.com does have the best customer service around.
charles,
the turbonetics housing is the same exact placement as the Garrett housing, just a larger cut for the q-trim wheel.
with the back pressure it seems you are seeing from the large port job, i would recommend the 1.15 p-trim instead of the .96 q-trim. the larger housing will actually allow for less backpressure, than the wheel change.
please let us know if you have any other questions 1-877-23-turbo
thanks
Hope this helps. But the 1.15 housing is divided and my .96 housing is not. So now what do I do??? Do I just order a 1.15 p-trim housing, stay with the T66 and build another manifold, so many options.
chuck
Thinking of upgrading my Garrett T66 .96 p-trim to your T72 .96 q-trim. My current exhaust housing has the 3inch v-band attachment welded on it. Does yours? Or what is involved in getting this option? What is the possibility of your Turbonetics .96 housing replacing my Garrett .96 housing with out modifying my down pipe? One more question about exhaust CFM. I am currently running a 13b with very large exhaust ports. With the current exhaust housing and p-trim wheel I am seeing to much back pressure over 20 psi of boost. If I go with the Q-trim wheel how much more CFM will I be able to flow and how much less back pressure will I have? Should I upgrade to a 3.5 or 4 inch down pipe to help relieve some back pressure when I upgrade to your T72 .96 q-trim? Thanks for your inputs/suggestions.
The dyno sheet in your 400hp section is mine, way back when I ran your T3 60-1, on a stock 13b motor.
And this was there reply. I have bought from them and cheapturbo.com does have the best customer service around.
charles,
the turbonetics housing is the same exact placement as the Garrett housing, just a larger cut for the q-trim wheel.
with the back pressure it seems you are seeing from the large port job, i would recommend the 1.15 p-trim instead of the .96 q-trim. the larger housing will actually allow for less backpressure, than the wheel change.
please let us know if you have any other questions 1-877-23-turbo
thanks
Hope this helps. But the 1.15 housing is divided and my .96 housing is not. So now what do I do??? Do I just order a 1.15 p-trim housing, stay with the T66 and build another manifold, so many options.
chuck
06-25-04, 08:27 PM
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Well guys, after lots of research both local an abroad and hours of contemplating the final decision was
To4r with a 4" velosity stack inlet, p wheel with a .96 a/r
http://store.yahoo.com/cheapturbo/garrettto4r.html
there it is. i should have it in about a week and a half. ill start a new post with the progress and pics and we will all see the final outcome.
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To4r with a 4" velosity stack inlet, p wheel with a .96 a/r
http://store.yahoo.com/cheapturbo/garrettto4r.html
there it is. i should have it in about a week and a half. ill start a new post with the progress and pics and we will all see the final outcome.
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06-26-04, 12:06 PM
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The Q-trim from turbonetics etc. is an out dated design. The turbine wheel to use for street performance would be the GTQ-trim turbine wheel from Garett or Precision turbo.. Out spools a P-trim and out flows a traditional Q-trim.
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06-26-04, 01:30 PM
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I have never heard this info before, can u tell me your source for the New Garrett Q wheel spooling up than an older p wheel
Originally posted by crispeed
The Q-trim from turbonetics etc. is an out dated design. The turbine wheel to use for street performance would be the GTQ-trim turbine wheel from Garett or Precision turbo.. Out spools a P-trim and out flows a traditional Q-trim.
The Q-trim from turbonetics etc. is an out dated design. The turbine wheel to use for street performance would be the GTQ-trim turbine wheel from Garett or Precision turbo.. Out spools a P-trim and out flows a traditional Q-trim.
06-26-04, 04:27 PM
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Originally posted by sevenin7
After all this very useful discussion , i think my choice( t-66 q trim 1.0 a/r ) , as i have told you from the beggining , sound very good !
After all this very useful discussion , i think my choice( t-66 q trim 1.0 a/r ) , as i have told you from the beggining , sound very good !
Is the one from cheapturbos.com the same one that everyone goes with? I am just wondering because it says it flows 68lbs/min and their T04R says it flows 75lbs/min.
06-27-04, 03:54 AM
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Originally posted by crispeed
The Q-trim from turbonetics etc. is an out dated design. The turbine wheel to use for street performance would be the GTQ-trim turbine wheel from Garett or Precision turbo.. Out spools a P-trim and out flows a traditional Q-trim.
The Q-trim from turbonetics etc. is an out dated design. The turbine wheel to use for street performance would be the GTQ-trim turbine wheel from Garett or Precision turbo.. Out spools a P-trim and out flows a traditional Q-trim.
http://www.precisionte.com/products/...=Turbochargers
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06-29-04, 08:14 AM
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Originally posted by sevenin7
ryde or die ,
yes , tneticks t-66 flows 68lbs/min .
T04R , flows 75lbs/min ????????????
Who knows if this is correct ?
ryde or die ,
yes , tneticks t-66 flows 68lbs/min .
T04R , flows 75lbs/min ????????????
Who knows if this is correct ?
See I had been planning on going with their T04R, and now I seem to have an even better reason.
06-29-04, 07:10 PM
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I"ll throw in my $.02.
I'm running a T04R compressor with a GTQ turbine wheel. The setup made 467RWHP at 19psi with a 10.8:1 AFR and a .84 AR turbine housing. 19psi is seen by 3900 RPM in 4th gear. I really like the setup, but think I want to try one step larger on the AR and go to a 1.0 or .96 which ever.
Problem is that the GTQ turbine wheel require the housing be custom machined... which is $$$$'s. If you go with an undivided housing from precision the cost may be less, but I belive you'll lose performance, even though they claim otherwise.
-Chris
I'm running a T04R compressor with a GTQ turbine wheel. The setup made 467RWHP at 19psi with a 10.8:1 AFR and a .84 AR turbine housing. 19psi is seen by 3900 RPM in 4th gear. I really like the setup, but think I want to try one step larger on the AR and go to a 1.0 or .96 which ever.
Problem is that the GTQ turbine wheel require the housing be custom machined... which is $$$$'s. If you go with an undivided housing from precision the cost may be less, but I belive you'll lose performance, even though they claim otherwise.
-Chris
07-07-04, 08:04 PM
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From cheapturbo told that , the Garrett Big Kahuna T4/T04R , with q trim , 1.0 a/r , GT series wheels flows more than T-66 . Its capable also to produce 700+RWHP.
What do you think guys ?
What do you think guys ?
07-08-04, 02:19 AM
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Originally posted by sevenin7
From cheapturbo told that , the Garrett Big Kahuna T4/T04R , with q trim , 1.0 a/r , GT series wheels flows more than T-66 . Its capable also to produce 700+RWHP.
What do you think guys ?
From cheapturbo told that , the Garrett Big Kahuna T4/T04R , with q trim , 1.0 a/r , GT series wheels flows more than T-66 . Its capable also to produce 700+RWHP.
What do you think guys ?
07-08-04, 01:28 PM
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I"ll throw in my $.02.
Problem is that the GTQ turbine wheel require the housing be custom machined... which is $$$$'s. If you go with an undivided housing from precision the cost may be less, but I belive you'll lose performance, even though they claim otherwise.
-Chris
I"ll throw in my $.02.
Problem is that the GTQ turbine wheel require the housing be custom machined... which is $$$$'s. If you go with an undivided housing from precision the cost may be less, but I belive you'll lose performance, even though they claim otherwise.
-Chris
The design of their opened turbine housing is different from everyone's else and spools the turbo just as good as a divided housing in the .81 to 1.00 A/R range.
07-09-04, 06:26 PM
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GTR exhaust wheel
http://www.centralfloridaturbo.com/precision.php
Found this site that shows a GTR exhaust wheel. Anyone try one? Looks like the GTQ wheel is the same size as plain Q-trim wheel, what makes the GTQ-trim wheel better? (Taller wheel, angle of blades.) Not questioning anyones expertise, just trying to understand before I buy one. Now I am thinking of going with a .81 a/r with the GTR-trim exhaust wheel, T72. Thanks
chuck
Found this site that shows a GTR exhaust wheel. Anyone try one? Looks like the GTQ wheel is the same size as plain Q-trim wheel, what makes the GTQ-trim wheel better? (Taller wheel, angle of blades.) Not questioning anyones expertise, just trying to understand before I buy one. Now I am thinking of going with a .81 a/r with the GTR-trim exhaust wheel, T72. Thanks
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Originally posted by FD Rey
Nice turbo, but the rear is a little big IMO you'd have too much lag. I'd rather go with a smaller rear like a .96 or even .84 a/r, reason being is that you're most likely not looking for over 600rwhp so why sacrifice the lag? That turbo with a .84 a/r rear can do you just fine up to 600 rwhp.
Nice turbo, but the rear is a little big IMO you'd have too much lag. I'd rather go with a smaller rear like a .96 or even .84 a/r, reason being is that you're most likely not looking for over 600rwhp so why sacrifice the lag? That turbo with a .84 a/r rear can do you just fine up to 600 rwhp.
Well I am looking for as close to 500rwhp as I can(425+rwhp @16psi hopefully; more at higher boost on race gas) and don't want boost to fall off at all. Would I be good with the .84 or .96 exhaust housing? I doubt I would ever go past 18psi. With the .84 when should I expect full boost? I really don't want to change out housings so I want to get it right the first time. Thanks.
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Re: I need opinions on a T72 with Q wheel and .96 housing
Originally posted by rob20rx7
Well.... Just like it says, i would like to see if anyone has used this size turbo and if so what were the results. right now i have a TS04 with street port and 850 pri and 1600 sec. Im making about 405 RWHP @19 PSI. I came up with this turbo kit a few years ago and although im happy with how the car feels. i feel that i should have gone with a bigger turbo. idealy i would like to be at 480 RWHP if that where possible with the most efficient Turbo setup. Im also open to suggestions, so if someone has any ideas, i wanna hear them
Well.... Just like it says, i would like to see if anyone has used this size turbo and if so what were the results. right now i have a TS04 with street port and 850 pri and 1600 sec. Im making about 405 RWHP @19 PSI. I came up with this turbo kit a few years ago and although im happy with how the car feels. i feel that i should have gone with a bigger turbo. idealy i would like to be at 480 RWHP if that where possible with the most efficient Turbo setup. Im also open to suggestions, so if someone has any ideas, i wanna hear them
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