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Old Nov 20, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by RacerXtreme7
You guys are missleading the original poster . The s4/5 hitachi turbine housing does not just "fit" on his T04. He's going to have to get the stock turbine housing bored to fit his P-trim wheel. This is going to require him to go to a experianced turbo shop/builder with proper tools for boring. Don't forget to PORT the wastegate.

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sorry, thought that was a given...
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 12:24 AM
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sorry, thought that was a given...
lol im with hondahater... ...but i guess some others claim that i think that a s4/s5 hotside bolts right on to the T04 Ptrim.... WTF??
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 12:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bobybeach
were talking about runing the t04b with a s4/5 hitachi turbine housing not an hitachi turbine.
Do i seriously come off as a complete noob when i type??

Just look at the size of runners and over all size of the stock vs t4 housings..... how can you not be choking an engine to death above 350whp with the stock housing?? sure you can make 400+ but your engine is going to alot more willing and happy to do so without the stock housing regardless if a p-trim or stock hitachi turbine is in it.

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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by zbrown
Do i seriously come off as a complete noob when i type??

Just look at the size of runners and over all size of the stock vs t4 housings..... how can you not be choking an engine to death above 350whp with the stock housing?? sure you can make 400+ but your engine is going to alot more willing and happy to do so without the stock housing regardless if a p-trim or stock hitachi turbine is in it.
It appears to me that not to many people here have ever run a pressure transducer pre-turbine.
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by zbrown
Do i seriously come off as a complete noob when i type??

Just look at the size of runners and over all size of the stock vs t4 housings..... how can you not be choking an engine to death above 350whp with the stock housing?? sure you can make 400+ but your engine is going to alot more willing and happy to do so without the stock housing regardless if a p-trim or stock hitachi turbine is in it.
There’s no argument that full t4 or gt turbo on custom headers with external wastegate has more potential,
But I’m sure most people who have run p trimed high flow Hitachi turbos would agree that the power gains are massive and simplistic when using stock manifold with the internal wastegate. the whp achieved by this setup speaks for it self, if the turbo was really struggling it wouldn’t make the power, the fact that it can shows it can flow enough to do so.

The compressor on this particular t04b we are referring to wouldn’t flow over 350 whp even with the 1.15ar housing. In my opinion using the .84 or 1.00 Hitachi would be ideal and simplistic in this application.

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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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Alright, I am now good and confused. Will or Won't the T04B p-trim wheel fit in a stock s4/5 housing? I never planned to change the turbine wheel. I would like to do this simply, if possible, and finding stock hotside housings is not that hard. If they won't fit I will have to start inquiring about smaller P-trim housings.
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 04:57 PM
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It will fit, But the housing needs to be sent to a turbo specialist so the new larger turbine trim can be machined on to the Hitachi housing. Then it will bolt straight up. You will also need to have the wastegate hole machined larger also.
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bobybeach
But I’m sure most people who have run p trimed high flow Hitachi turbos would agree that the power gains are massive and simplistic when using stock manifold with the internal wastegate.
Ok, i misunderstood what you were trying to say....sorry
Yes i agree with your above statement
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Old Nov 21, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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anyone have any recommendations on a shop who can bore out my stock s4 turbine housing to accept my p-trim turbine ? i wanna get this done asap . thanx
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 10:19 AM
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OK, thanks for clearing that up for me. Due to the lack of turbo shops in Southern New Hampshire I am going to have to find a smaller p-tirm housing or make due with what I have.
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Old Nov 23, 2006 | 12:02 PM
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I have that Nice garrett .84 divided if you are interested at all.
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Old Nov 25, 2006 | 02:54 PM
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^Do you have pics of the .84?
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Old Nov 26, 2006 | 01:56 AM
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I have the same turbo, 115 with 60-1, with ported engine (mild), I have the manifold wrapped and the housings ceramic coated and I see good spool around 3g's. I have had no problems. good luck.
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 02:47 PM
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Time to talk manifolds. I plan on making (or having one made) a tubular manifold. I have read a few threads that say a longer manifold is better. Is there a optimum length, or can I go as long as possible w/o fitment issues? My brother is a TIG welder by profession, so I just want to figure out the best layout so he can burn it all together once I get the materials. I don't plan on using stainless or anything fancy like that cause money is always an issue.

As far as setup goes, I want to keep the runners divided al the way till the turbo. IIRC this should work well with my divided housing. Another thing I am not sure of is if I should make a Y into one large wastegate, or have two smaller wastegates with a Y after them. Thanks for the help.
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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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Search for manifold building. You'll find that stainless weld L's are CHEAP and much more durable then standard steel.

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Old Dec 1, 2006 | 04:47 PM
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Well I just found the thread started by BDC about manifold building. Rice Racing input some great info in there. Given this info I think a long divided manifold with equal length runners and WG runners is the way to go. I think I am going to try and get two WGs to fit so the two exhaust runners are completely divided. We will see how it all wants to fit before I set that in concrete though.
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 11:44 PM
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Can you swap the complete t04b housing inplace of the stock housing instead of getting the stock housing milled out to fit the to4b p trim wheel?
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Old Jan 23, 2007 | 09:57 AM
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