Guys running E85, what do you think the limit is? 700whp-800whp
09-15-08, 12:24 PM
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09-15-08, 04:28 PM
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I use to have a pretty good brain for this ****.
I started of processing stuff in 6 dimensions then as I got older it changed to 5,4,3,2,1 dimension Now I'm pretty much at just 'D'!
I use the petrol scale for everything now!
Some fuels require 8-9AFR's so having the right gauge helps.
I started of processing stuff in 6 dimensions then as I got older it changed to 5,4,3,2,1 dimension Now I'm pretty much at just 'D'!
I use the petrol scale for everything now!
Some fuels require 8-9AFR's so having the right gauge helps.
09-15-08, 04:38 PM
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Dang, leave it to you guys to confoooz me.
I'm using the normal PLX wideband. What afr's am I shooting for? The same afr's as I would for pump has or racegas?
and crispeed, please no rhimes or riddles
I'm using the normal PLX wideband. What afr's am I shooting for? The same afr's as I would for pump has or racegas?
and crispeed, please no rhimes or riddles
09-15-08, 09:37 PM
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can you re-program it for different fuels? or at least will it read lambda?
09-22-08, 10:59 PM
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This site might help you guys running E85 , since in some regions have up to three different types of blends ranging froma minimum of 70% ethanol to 79%, depending on the months.
http://www.e85mustangs.com/regions123.html
http://www.e85mustangs.com/regions123.html
09-24-08, 01:12 PM
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What do you think E85 stations sell?
The distribution and production of E85 is on the rise, more than ever. In fact, they just built a multi-billion dollar E85 plant down the road from me. E85 in one form or another is here to stay.
The distribution and production of E85 is on the rise, more than ever. In fact, they just built a multi-billion dollar E85 plant down the road from me. E85 in one form or another is here to stay.
09-24-08, 02:25 PM
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There is a few bi products i don't like with E85.
The first and most important ting is that E85 contaminate your oil too fast. After maybe 10 hours of runtime u should change the oil. Mine was realy bad after 15 hours.
Two the engine gets so sticky inside. Everywhere there was ethanol, the apex seals was so sticky i had to clean them with break cleaner.
Other then that i love it. Will use it again next time i build a turbo engine. But for next year it's going to be pump gas and NA 4 rotor
Oh Viking War Hammer are u a Republican since u have Mccain/Palin picture?
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The first and most important ting is that E85 contaminate your oil too fast. After maybe 10 hours of runtime u should change the oil. Mine was realy bad after 15 hours.
Two the engine gets so sticky inside. Everywhere there was ethanol, the apex seals was so sticky i had to clean them with break cleaner.
Other then that i love it. Will use it again next time i build a turbo engine. But for next year it's going to be pump gas and NA 4 rotor
Oh Viking War Hammer are u a Republican since u have Mccain/Palin picture?
JT
10-06-08, 11:02 PM
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10-07-08, 09:08 AM
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10-07-08, 10:18 AM
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It was surprisingly simple, I just multiplied all injection maps that are in ms by 1.3 and filled the tank up and she fired right up and ran surprisingly close to tuned. I does go to below 10afr under boost, its idling at around 10.5afr and it cruises at 12-13afr so it needs some fuel removal but other than that it was pretty simple.
I expect that it will take care some of the sensitivity to tuning caused by the 10:1 compression ratio as well as allow some timing to be added. I was thinking of advancing the base map by 4 degrees as a start. Current at 14psi it is at 8 degrees leading and 0 trailing. Advancing it by 4 on the base map would put it at 12 degrees leading and 4 trailing. Does that sound ok?
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10-07-08, 11:03 AM
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E85 is a blend of ethanol and gasolene additives available through out the country at various gas stations. E98 is not approved for regular daily use in any vechicle.. Comparing E85 to E98 is like a comparison between C16 and methanol.
Running E98 is like running on 99% Methanol/Alcohol. Some of the bad side effects of ruuning on methanol also shows up when running on E98 although not close to the levels as Methanol/Alcohol fuels.
This thread was created to showcase the results of E85 fueled vechicles. If it was for E98 then there would be Top Alcohol/Ethanol Funny cars/bikes/boats etc. in here also.
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10-07-08, 12:09 PM
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crispeed, I know all of what you said.........
we can buy straight e98 up here from the gas stations, you just gotta let the owner know you want it. We can also buy it from the local farmers as well.......
since e85 is cut from e98, i think it's worth mentioning
you said you were supposed to tune a rotary car a few weeks ago, did that happen?
we can buy straight e98 up here from the gas stations, you just gotta let the owner know you want it. We can also buy it from the local farmers as well.......
since e85 is cut from e98, i think it's worth mentioning
you said you were supposed to tune a rotary car a few weeks ago, did that happen?
10-07-08, 02:54 PM
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No it's not!!!!!
Let me refresh your brain!
The thread states....'Guys running E85, what do you think the limit is? 700whp-800whp'
Again since you did not get it the first time comparing the results of E85 to E98 is like comparing C16 to Methanol. The results are far from each other in what both will support.
It's obvious as of late your judgement is being clouded from too much e-bay shoping and you're basing your opinion on how cheap it can be done and not what the product is capable of.
Don't try and stray away from the topic at hand.
Let me refresh your brain!
The thread states....'Guys running E85, what do you think the limit is? 700whp-800whp'
Again since you did not get it the first time comparing the results of E85 to E98 is like comparing C16 to Methanol. The results are far from each other in what both will support.
It's obvious as of late your judgement is being clouded from too much e-bay shoping and you're basing your opinion on how cheap it can be done and not what the product is capable of.
Don't try and stray away from the topic at hand.
10-07-08, 03:36 PM
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It seems like you're the one straying away from the topic since I've asked you numerous times without a answer. If you haven't tuned the car yet, all you have to do is say just that, but whatever.