Hey guys. Im building a 400 hp car and looked into upgrading my fuel system. I purchased a KGParts kit for $1,200 recently and was wondering what some of you think about that price.. the kit includes their primary and secondary rails, bosch injectors, aeromotive fuel pressure regulator, gauge, stainless steel braided lines, fittings and (spacers?).

I ask cause KGParts is local in my area and they sell "FULL KITS (including ss lines ect)" to my mechanic for $1,200 but on their website, the same kit is sold for $765 without the ss lines, fittings and (spacers?)... thats a $435 price difference for ss lines, fittings and whatever fuel spacers are. For my piece of mind, can anyone make sense of why there is such a big increase for those extra miscellaneous parts?


heres their kit prices and their most expensive kit listed is kit E for $765.
http://kgparts.com/fuel_price.htm

-thanks, Johnny

 

You sure "your mechanic" isn't tryin to make a little money off of you also?

 

You need to price up all the AN fittings and braided hose because that stuff is not cheap.

Richard

 

yea, A&N -6 fittings are like 6$ a piece, lines is a 20-30$, then you also need npt adapters. and is the $1200 installed? b/c i could see 100$ in fittings and 300$ in labor to assemble/ install

 

Sure. There is no secret to it. Stuff is expensive!

As Bacon said: But this is even over simplified. To help you get a grasp on how much fittings cost, start shopping jegs or summit online. http://www.summitracing.com/search/B.../?autoview=SKU If you are unsure of where to even begin, plan on paying for someone's knowledge (not sure you can add that to your summit cart, but you get the idea)

Add some fittings to your cart to see how they add up. Sure, A straight Hose end would be $6, BUT that need to connect to something.... like a 90* AN to NPT thread fitting which is in the $10 range. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RUS-660860/ Multiply that by 4 and account for all the non-straight fittings (about 9 of them) that are not straight. 45* and 90* fittings in a -6 are about $15-$20 EACH. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RUS-610160/ http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RUS-613090/
Those lines need to be split to T off to each rail, so that fitting is about $12 alone. http://www.summitracing.com/parts/RUS-661020/ Now try to connect both the feed and the return back to the firewall hardlines... $25 x 2... Oops, these all need to connect to the regulator with the correct fitting as well.... x3 at $10 each

Now assemble all of that without screwing up a fitting beyond use, or over ordering, or under ordering and needing to pay shipping every time you forgot something....
Unfortunately, fittings add up. QUICK. Right there you are at about $380 in fittings and line before assembling it.

What you are linking does not include lines/fittings. You would need to add those costs to the price. $765 plus the $380 above is just about $1150 and that does not include the spacers required to run the new injectors @ $16 a pair x2.

Hope that helps

 

@bacon: no the price doesnt include install

thanks rxrotary! that did help me understand a lot better of what i am paying for. again, i just wanted to understand what i purchased that added up to the difference for piece of mind. both my mechanic and KGParts have been extremely helpful and knowledgeable since i started my project so i had no doubt that i was paying for what i got but was just curious and i am also the type to like to be in the know since its going in the car lol. but so far i am happy with the parts and the direction the projects headed!

thanks again for the replies!

 

lol, my 6am math sucked lol

i'm still trying to figure out the most cost effect method for my new fuel system, fittings ad up soooooooo fast

Johnny you Could buy my dual pumpsetup and get all those lines and fittings (minus the radiused pump fittigns for the fpr, i just pulled out all the npt fittings from my KGPARTS rails
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-rx-7-1993-2002-parts-99/ptp-twin-walbro-pump-assembly-966475/

 

^^ lol wish i woulda known you had it earlier. plus ur right down the street. i live in sicklerville too. let me know if u ever have anything else for sale!

 

Where at in the Ville

 

I sell the same kit for $825 and it comes with every fitting and part needed for install. I hope install was included in the $1200 price.

 

in eriel near the firehall. you?


its for the kit only. do you have links or information on your products? thanks jason

 

Wyeoak

 

why is it that everyone wants to use an hose for the fuel lines? whats wrong with rubber fuel hose? i know the stainless line is pretty, and ive used it myself on a number of projects, but is it really needed in this application?

 

Who would want to go to a track, have an inspection and fail for not following regulations? If you building the car to go fast, chances are it "may" end up at a track one day, and you may get an inspection.... hmmm...



Each car, regardless of class or category, must complete and satisfactorily pass inspection of a qualified scrutineer before being permitted to make a trial run or participate in any event conducted at an FIA licensed facility. (This includes private test sessions.)
Sec 1.5 (Fuel Systems)
Lines: All non-OEM fuel lines (including gauge and/or data recorder lines) must be metallic, steel-braided or FIA accepted "woven pushlock". A maximum of 12-inches (30.5 cm) total (front to rear) of non-metallic or non-steel braided is permitted for connection purposes only; individual injector nozzle and motorcycle fuel lines are excluded. Fuel lines (except steel braided lines) in flywheel/bellhousing area must be enclosed in a 16-inch (40.6 cm) length of steel tubing, 1/8-inch (3.2 mm) minimum wall thickness, securely mounted as a protection against fuel line rupture. It is mandatory that fuel lines passing supercharger drive belts be steel braided or be enclosed in protective steel tubing. Fuel lines must not be routed in the driveshaft tunnel.

 

http://www.rx7store.net/category_s/93.htm