Blake

Four gallons is really a good quantity for one car. If I'm not mistaken, the stock system is a bit over 2 gallons, and most aftermarket rads will bump that up to about 3 gallons (more?). Having an extra gallon is not a bad idea, as you might spill a little when doing maintenance (engine swap, fixing the heater core, replacing hoses, etc.) at some point, so you should want extra to top off with in the future. However, if you and your buddy buy two cases (8 gallons) and have a enough left over, you could probably find someone else locally who would take it off your hands....

(If someone can confirm the volume of the stock and aftermarket rad systems, please post that info here. Don't forget the volume required by the heater core, overflow bottle, and AST (where applicable). Or, people could simply email Rob Gloden: rob@pineappleracing.com ).

LUV94RX7

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When's the deadline??? I and my brother are probably in.

Ken

Blake

Not sure yet. I'll talk to Rob in the next few days and we'll figure out the deadline. We might be able to have an extended deadline (say, mid or late december), but start shipping earlier to those who place orders right away. I'll post a follow-up when I find out....

soul assassin

i am very interested but can someone hook me up with the sierra also thay do not have that in japan to properly uncontaminate the system! i am sure i would be good for 8 gallons if someone could help out on the sierra side

rx7_lover

i thought there is nothing you cant find in japan. they even have motor oil for rotary engine. (nothing really special but very expensive) hehe...

like Blake mentioned, just remember Sierra is propylene glycol (PG) based. im pretty sure you can find propylene glycol based coolant in japan.

if you cant, ill help you shipping sierras to where you live. (they are about $5-6 here)

soul assassin

that would be great! they probably do have something of that nature but i like using proven stuff! plus my skills in reading japanese is sub par! lol!

13BAce

Would it be expensive to ship the Sierra stuff to you from the US?

0piston

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Hey! No probs I could do it for you... Just tell Sokudo to email me.

soul assassin

it is the same as shipping to california here is the zip code if you would like to get quotes 96319 thanks for all your help guys let me know when you guys are going through with the group buy!

13BAce

If 0piston can't get it for you send me an e-mail and we can take care of it.

soul assassin

you following me again?

13BAce

No, just making my daily rounds.

Blake

Another option is to have a shop that does AC service put a strong vacuum on your cooling system. In a sufficient vacuum, water will literally boil at room temperature, evaporating completely. This will remove the water even more efficiently than using the Sierra coolant as an intermediate step, though it is likely to entail more expense and effort. Hopefully you can find a shop with a radiator cap adaptor. As someone else said, however, you can probably find a decent PG based coolant in Japan, under a different brand name -- just look for something that has dogs, cats, or children on the lable, since this may indicate a PG product (non-poisonous). Good luck.

LUV94RX7

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I'm going to want to order some of the Evans stuff. How much do I order for two FDs???

Ken

0piston

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Whats the status of this right now, I've drained all the coolant out and am excited about firing up my FD soon......its been a looong time :p

LUV94RX7

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I e-mailed pineapple for two cases and received no response so far.

Ken, 57 years young
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Blake

Sorry Ken, did you email me or Rob? I don't recall getting anything. I'm the one organizing the group buy. Rob was out of town for several days, supporting a GrandAm Cup BMW M3 at the Timex 12 Hour of Thunderhill. He's back and I went to see him yesterday to sort out some details. Go ahead and email your information (name, address, quantity, etc.) to me at vrm@aracnet.com and I'll get back to you with details.

BTW, each case is 39lbs and they will be shipped from zip code 97230 (Portland, OR), so you can figure out shipping for yourself if you want.

Blake

Well, I talked to Rob and he wants this done pretty quickly, so we'll probably close it out by the 10th, collect money and ship the product. Sound good?

0piston

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Sounds really good for me!

LUV94RX7

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My brother's FD and mine are out at KDR in PA. Turns out the warehouse for Evans is about 90 miles away. I purchased a case from a distributor in PA and they are shipping it for $11 to KDR. Cost per gallon was $20 on sale. I checked shipping from Portland and it was about $25 a case.

Ken

Blake

Ken (and everyone else),

I'd like to remind you that Rob is the one who pioneered the use of Evans NPG in rotaries and showed that it could be done without upgrading the radiator, waterpump, thermostat, etc. He is also the one who offered the group buy, which I believe has educated a lot of people to the advantages of the product and perhaps even saved many people hundreds of dollars of additional expense from upgrading their radiator because their ordinary coolant wasn't doing the job. In other words, you are buying the product based on his research and development. He is also investing a lot of money to buy the quantity that gives him a decent price (over 100 gallons) so he can actually cover his cost (barely) at a GB price of $18 per gallon. If people start backing out because they can save a couple of bucks in shipping, then this GB is over and you can never expect another GB on any other Pineapple Racing products or services. This is why it's so hard to get any new products and services developed for our cars. Nobody seems to respect the effort and money invested in product development and will screw you over at the drop of a hat. Rob's also producing some slick CNC'd 6-port sleeves for NAs. Guess what? No sooner has he invested thousands of dollars on the first production run than several people from this forum email him saying that they won't pay more than x-dollars or they will rip-off the idea and have their own made.

All I can say is, if you ever want good products developed for our cars, you must support those doing the development, even if you can save a buck or two buying a rip-off. And when someone goes out and finds a new application for an existing product (Evans) and proves it will work, then educates a mass of people, then offers a smoking deal on a GB, then you should buy it from him even if some other distributor (who did no research) comes up with a similar price and can ship it for slightly less. Business is precarious enough without wasting your time to improve your competitor's business!

So, this GB is in a precarious state. I need everyone who expressed interest before to reconfirm their intention to buy. If too many people drop out, the GB is over and certain individuals can pat themselves on the back for ruining a good thing. Again, email me at vrm@aracnet.com . Sorry for the drama, but I don't want Rob stuck with 100+ gallons of Evans because I convinced him to do the group buy.

Jack

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Blake
I just spoke to Rob @ Pineaapple Racing, he directed me to you regarding the group buy of Evans.

Thanks
Jack Lambert

Bacon

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im still in, but when do we order?

if it means watin2 months for the gb to take off
ill spend the extra 18 bux and order from evans direct(im buying 4 gals)...


so consider me in if this gb is goin down sometime within a month or 2

so shiping from rob for me will be 25 bux (08081 zip)

shiping from evans will be like 8 bux if
Evans Cooling Systems
PO Box 434
Parkerford, PA 19457-0434
USA
is their addy is this correct ken?


so it will save me 1$ if i go with rob if the above addy is right
but ill stay in for the sake of the gb

RX-7 Pilot

How much would shipping cost me for a case?? Area code 96797-5633. $$$

thanks
Kelvin

dclin

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Blake,

I've e-mailed twice, once to both e-mail addresses - have not heard back from you...?