Ceramic turbine wheels?
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Ceramic turbine wheels?
I'm looking at a ceramic wheel ball bearing turbo i should be able to get cheap, i've heard the turbines are prone to grenading from one person, but Google searching didn't show anything about this. I'm looking for a little information if anyone has it...
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No it's not Turbo'd
Not grenadng, but from what I understand, instead of bending a turbine blade, the whole thing (all blades) shatters if anything bigger/more substancial than a hair hits it...
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I believe they have a nasty habit of blowing themselves to bits if they're spun too fast as well, but in normal operation on a properly set up car they shouldnt pose much of a problem, but of course theres always the chance of tossing an apex seal out the exhaust port and ending your turbine wheel with it
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Don't bother, especially with rotary engines...
With the good chance the engine will spit out pieces of apex seals, you're going to end up with very expensive ceramic dust being spit out the exhaust.
-Ted
With the good chance the engine will spit out pieces of apex seals, you're going to end up with very expensive ceramic dust being spit out the exhaust.
-Ted
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The pieces on a bursted ceramic wheel won't get into your engine, but they don't like boosting more than 10psi, they loose balance pretty quickly when you push them beyond that boost level, then they start loosing oil badly and you end up with an industrial smoke stack in no time. Actually, they are not long lasting, period. Trust me, I've had many JDM cars (mostly Toyotas) with around 60K miles on the odo and their ceramic turbos were kaput by then. They will keep on working, mind you, but throwing oil like crazy, and nobody balances or repairs ceramic wheels. To me it is the worst invention from the Japanese for turbos. A titanium wheel would serve you much better if you're looking for a lightweight turbine, but they are $$$$.
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Originally Posted by EFINI_RX-7_RZ
The pieces on a bursted ceramic wheel won't get into your engine, but they don't like boosting more than 10psi, they loose balance pretty quickly when you push them beyond that boost level, then they start loosing oil badly and you end up with an industrial smoke stack in no time. Actually, they are not long lasting, period. Trust me, I've had many JDM cars (mostly Toyotas) with around 60K miles on the odo and their ceramic turbos were kaput by then. They will keep on working, mind you, but throwing oil like crazy, and nobody balances or repairs ceramic wheels. To me it is the worst invention from the Japanese for turbos. A titanium wheel would serve you much better if you're looking for a lightweight turbine, but they are $$$$.
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I'll advice to stay away from it. Biggest ceramic turbo I know is the one that came on RB25DET Nissan engines, and it won't flow more than 350 hp's worth of piston engine power, so there might not be more than 300 hp's worth for a rotary, and that's flywheel power. Also, if it is a used unit, there might be not much life left on it already. So you've been warned.
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Originally Posted by EFINI_RX-7_RZ
I'll advice to stay away from it. Biggest ceramic turbo I know is the one that came on RB25DET Nissan engines, and it won't flow more than 350 hp's worth of piston engine power, so there might not be more than 300 hp's worth for a rotary, and that's flywheel power. Also, if it is a used unit, there might be not much life left on it already. So you've been warned.
Just to be sure, you are talking about ceramic ball-bearing turbos ..... they won't last over 10 psi ???? I am sorry I don't get it ....
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Originally Posted by fc_dorifto
Just to be sure, you are talking about ceramic ball-bearing turbos ..... they won't last over 10 psi ???? I am sorry I don't get it ....
I'm only looking to make about 300whp.
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Yeah, that's what i'm talking about, it's from an RB20DET.
I'm only looking to make about 300whp.
I'm only looking to make about 300whp.
And, no, we are not talking "ceramic ball bearing" turbos, but rather "ceramic turbine wheel" turbos WITH ball bearings. Two very, VERY different things.
Trust me on this one, you wanna REALLY stay away from ceramic turbine wheels.
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Originally Posted by signofinfinity
go non sequential.... and you can make over 300 if you want.... will cost you less then a hundred $ too!!!
rb20 didn't have twins.
Originally Posted by O 16581 72452 5
Yeah, that's what i'm talking about, it's from an RB20DET.
I'm only looking to make about 300whp.
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Originally Posted by EFINI_RX-7_RZ
And, no, we are not talking "ceramic ball bearing" turbos, but rather "ceramic turbine wheel" turbos WITH ball bearings. Two very, VERY different things.
Trust me on this one, you wanna REALLY stay away from ceramic turbine wheels.
Ok Thanks !!!!! I wasn't really sure ......
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