A/C with single turbo?
#1
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A/C with single turbo?
I have a greddy t78 turbo on my fd and was wondering if theres anyone that runs a/c with a single turbo setup? How do you do it and what am i going to have to do?
#2
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Yes you can.
With the stock configuration the ECU receives an A/C request, and depending on conditions turns the compressor on via a relay. So depending on which engine management you run you may be able to emulate this setup, or may have to rig something else up.
Having the compressor, plumbing, and such does take up space and requires additional "engineering" to work around.
But there's no good reason a single turbo installation should preclude the use of A/C.
With the stock configuration the ECU receives an A/C request, and depending on conditions turns the compressor on via a relay. So depending on which engine management you run you may be able to emulate this setup, or may have to rig something else up.
Having the compressor, plumbing, and such does take up space and requires additional "engineering" to work around.
But there's no good reason a single turbo installation should preclude the use of A/C.
#3
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Yes you can.
With the stock configuration the ECU receives an A/C request, and depending on conditions turns the compressor on via a relay. So depending on which engine management you run you may be able to emulate this setup, or may have to rig something else up.
Having the compressor, plumbing, and such does take up space and requires additional "engineering" to work around.
But there's no good reason a single turbo installation should preclude the use of A/C.
With the stock configuration the ECU receives an A/C request, and depending on conditions turns the compressor on via a relay. So depending on which engine management you run you may be able to emulate this setup, or may have to rig something else up.
Having the compressor, plumbing, and such does take up space and requires additional "engineering" to work around.
But there's no good reason a single turbo installation should preclude the use of A/C.
#4
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If you are running a PFC then it should be plug and play. You should not have to move the compressor.
Depending on what turbo and manifold you use, the air pump on the passenger side may be in the way, if that's what you mean. It has nothing to do with the A/C, it's for emmisions.
As far as A/C plumbing you may have to tweak a couple pipes but it's more a matter of installing all to necessary turbo plumbing to work around the A/C parts.
Depending on what turbo and manifold you use, the air pump on the passenger side may be in the way, if that's what you mean. It has nothing to do with the A/C, it's for emmisions.
As far as A/C plumbing you may have to tweak a couple pipes but it's more a matter of installing all to necessary turbo plumbing to work around the A/C parts.
#5
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I've been looking into this myself.
My understanding based off USA spec parts.
The A/C switch tells the heater / cooling control unit you want A/C on. A/C is never on when the fan is off. So if you have fan set to any setting 1-4 the heater / control unit knows you want A/C.
There is an pressure regulator with a window function, so that it is only enabled between a valid range of air con pressures. I can't remember the exact details but it turns off if the A/C gets too cold. It also turns off if it gets too hot (means theres no gas in the system).
The simplest system would just use a relay based on whether the A/C switch was on or not.
Better again would be disable the A/C whenever the RPM is above 3500.
Better again would be disable the A/C whenever the load is above x.
Better again would be disable the A/C whenever engine RPM is below 700rpm
Better again would be disable the A/C whenever the engine coolant is above a certain temperature (reduce load!)
My understanding based off USA spec parts.
The A/C switch tells the heater / cooling control unit you want A/C on. A/C is never on when the fan is off. So if you have fan set to any setting 1-4 the heater / control unit knows you want A/C.
There is an pressure regulator with a window function, so that it is only enabled between a valid range of air con pressures. I can't remember the exact details but it turns off if the A/C gets too cold. It also turns off if it gets too hot (means theres no gas in the system).
The simplest system would just use a relay based on whether the A/C switch was on or not.
Better again would be disable the A/C whenever the RPM is above 3500.
Better again would be disable the A/C whenever the load is above x.
Better again would be disable the A/C whenever engine RPM is below 700rpm
Better again would be disable the A/C whenever the engine coolant is above a certain temperature (reduce load!)
#7
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Havent attempted it yet, hopefully its not too bad i need it back in a couple of months before it gets into the 100's again
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#10
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Find an ac removal guide and do the reverse. There's not much to installing the ac unit itself. The compressor will bolt under the power steering pump as usual and you'll have to see if you can route the lines to the firewall somehow as well as how to mount the condenser that will be the hardest parts. There are guides to how to use a/c with a pfc in the PFC section.
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