Apexi Usa Division No Longer In Business.
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Banned. I got OWNED!!!
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From: Belleville, IL
Originally Posted by r71
I've been installing body kits before they put sport and compact in the same sentence. I've installed cheap *** ebay $100 kits to FAB kits over $15,000 on Mercedes. Let me tell you that you get what you pay for. It has to be worth it to the person that pays for it.
That being said:
I never buy knockoff **** for my car. I'm not saying I look for name brands because I shop at K Mart for the cotton I throw on my back. I just like to have the best **** on my car(if I can afford it). I don't mind paying for quality products. Here's my gripe.
Apexi, Greddy, Tial, Rotora, let see..... I'm trying to think of.... oh yeah, HKS. I've got parts from all these guys. Like I said I don't mind paying for quality(when I can afford it). Bottom line, I hope all these ******** go under and fall on their faces. I don't want to offend anyone who works or has friends working there but every single one of these people I delt with are either ******** or don't know **** about their product. Now don't go jumping out of your seats to defend these boneheads because you paid 800 bucks for an exhaust and think it's cool to slap their sticker on the side of your fender to advertise for them(I never understood that, are you just advertising for free or are you telling people you have genuine parts??? What thehell do you get out of slapping someone's sticker on your fenders? Does it look cool? They should pay oyu to do that if anything.). I am only, I repeat only speaking from my experience.
We repair lots of modified cars that's been in a wreck so I am dealing with these guys on a regular basis. Let me give you an example. I had a Z in her with a HKX SC kit. It was a front end hit so naturally it busted the oil cooler. It's an HKS kit so I called HKS to see if I could get a replacement part.
HKS said:
Choice one: Buy the whole kit for $6500
Choice two: They have to order the part from Japan and it will take 2 months. On top of that they said the traction fluid for the rotrax SC was a special blend made in house by HKS. BULLSHIT!!!
I told them to **** off. No support from these ******** what so ever. What insurance companies gonna wait 2 weeks for a ******* oil cooler and fluid. If it's not an insurance job, how the hell do they expect a shop to have a car down for 2 months. I hope everyone of those ******** go to hell.
What I did. I call Mocal directly, that's what all these companies do anyways. they by the **** form somewhere else and slap their names on it and mark it up to dumbass who buys there stuff just for the name(I bought a HKS 4 row IC core, I didn't pay full price but they used to sell it for $1600. It has an HKS sticker and their part number but stamped on the IC but on the other side it says made by Koyo. Yeah, that knockoff company that makes your knockoff radiator)
Anyways, back to the story. I get the same cooler and make my own line to replace the shitty ones they brovide with the kit. I get the traction fluid delivered to me directly by rotrex. Car is finished on time!
I could write an entire book on dealing with these companies. I've delt with them all. I haven't come across a single company that has good customer support. My thing is if I paid $5000+ for a turbo kit, I expect to get a fitting, a hose or an of the components replaced when it goes wrong, on time! Not 2 ******* months!
Yeah, I hate these companies. I only buy stuff from these people when it's the only option I have. I alwas, always erase, scrbb off, sand off, completely remove any traces of the company's name/logo. You will not find they're names on my car unless they have good customer support.
Bats Inc: Mocal dealer, excellent. Great customer support. None of that wait 2 months ****.
www.anplumbing.com : Tom, knows his ****. Best I ever delt with.
Greddy: Can go to hell
HKS: I never knew the definition of dumbasses until I spoke with these people
Apexi: Customer service? What the **** is customer service?
Volk: Need a replacement wheel? **** that, wait 2 months or you got to buy the whole set.
Like I said, don' t give me your "oh I had a wonderful experience" bullshit. You gave them 500 bucks for a boost controller that you get to stick on top of your dash because no one did any research on how to mont the damn thing in your car and thank them by sticking their logo that you probably paid for on your windshield/fender/bmper.
You get the picture right. Stop spporting these ********. If this is the kind of support I can get by paying all that money, it ain't worth it. I have the capability so I just started too make my own ****. Keep record of the parts used, if it breaks, I just order another one. Never again will I ever buy anything from these ********. I would just by the knockoff as a base and modify it. Make it so it will work.
That being said:
I never buy knockoff **** for my car. I'm not saying I look for name brands because I shop at K Mart for the cotton I throw on my back. I just like to have the best **** on my car(if I can afford it). I don't mind paying for quality products. Here's my gripe.
Apexi, Greddy, Tial, Rotora, let see..... I'm trying to think of.... oh yeah, HKS. I've got parts from all these guys. Like I said I don't mind paying for quality(when I can afford it). Bottom line, I hope all these ******** go under and fall on their faces. I don't want to offend anyone who works or has friends working there but every single one of these people I delt with are either ******** or don't know **** about their product. Now don't go jumping out of your seats to defend these boneheads because you paid 800 bucks for an exhaust and think it's cool to slap their sticker on the side of your fender to advertise for them(I never understood that, are you just advertising for free or are you telling people you have genuine parts??? What thehell do you get out of slapping someone's sticker on your fenders? Does it look cool? They should pay oyu to do that if anything.). I am only, I repeat only speaking from my experience.
We repair lots of modified cars that's been in a wreck so I am dealing with these guys on a regular basis. Let me give you an example. I had a Z in her with a HKX SC kit. It was a front end hit so naturally it busted the oil cooler. It's an HKS kit so I called HKS to see if I could get a replacement part.
HKS said:
Choice one: Buy the whole kit for $6500
Choice two: They have to order the part from Japan and it will take 2 months. On top of that they said the traction fluid for the rotrax SC was a special blend made in house by HKS. BULLSHIT!!!
I told them to **** off. No support from these ******** what so ever. What insurance companies gonna wait 2 weeks for a ******* oil cooler and fluid. If it's not an insurance job, how the hell do they expect a shop to have a car down for 2 months. I hope everyone of those ******** go to hell.
What I did. I call Mocal directly, that's what all these companies do anyways. they by the **** form somewhere else and slap their names on it and mark it up to dumbass who buys there stuff just for the name(I bought a HKS 4 row IC core, I didn't pay full price but they used to sell it for $1600. It has an HKS sticker and their part number but stamped on the IC but on the other side it says made by Koyo. Yeah, that knockoff company that makes your knockoff radiator)
Anyways, back to the story. I get the same cooler and make my own line to replace the shitty ones they brovide with the kit. I get the traction fluid delivered to me directly by rotrex. Car is finished on time!
I could write an entire book on dealing with these companies. I've delt with them all. I haven't come across a single company that has good customer support. My thing is if I paid $5000+ for a turbo kit, I expect to get a fitting, a hose or an of the components replaced when it goes wrong, on time! Not 2 ******* months!
Yeah, I hate these companies. I only buy stuff from these people when it's the only option I have. I alwas, always erase, scrbb off, sand off, completely remove any traces of the company's name/logo. You will not find they're names on my car unless they have good customer support.
Bats Inc: Mocal dealer, excellent. Great customer support. None of that wait 2 months ****.
www.anplumbing.com : Tom, knows his ****. Best I ever delt with.
Greddy: Can go to hell
HKS: I never knew the definition of dumbasses until I spoke with these people
Apexi: Customer service? What the **** is customer service?
Volk: Need a replacement wheel? **** that, wait 2 months or you got to buy the whole set.
Like I said, don' t give me your "oh I had a wonderful experience" bullshit. You gave them 500 bucks for a boost controller that you get to stick on top of your dash because no one did any research on how to mont the damn thing in your car and thank them by sticking their logo that you probably paid for on your windshield/fender/bmper.
You get the picture right. Stop spporting these ********. If this is the kind of support I can get by paying all that money, it ain't worth it. I have the capability so I just started too make my own ****. Keep record of the parts used, if it breaks, I just order another one. Never again will I ever buy anything from these ********. I would just by the knockoff as a base and modify it. Make it so it will work.
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From: In the Sky
Originally Posted by Jason
Funny considering I have 2 of your fuckups here right now. Hint: learn to install a fuel system correctly.
Originally Posted by Jason
Funny considering I have 2 of your fuckups here right now. Hint: learn to install a fuel system correctly.
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Originally Posted by Zero R
Sure you do Jason , sure you do.
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Can I say that a shop knocking another shop is not really a good thing. From my experiences, no matter who did the work, someone's gonna say they could have done it better. We're all in it to make money so I say shops be nice to each other and just treat your customers right. I didn't mean to butt in so this is all I will say on this subject.
Originally Posted by r71
Can I say that a shop knocking another shop is not really a good thing. From my experiences, no matter who did the work, someone's gonna say they could have done it better. We're all in it to make money so I say shops be nice to each other and just treat your customers right. I didn't mean to butt in so this is all I will say on this subject.
Couldn't of said it better, go tell that to the guy who came in from left field and attacked me. Instead of quoting me
I also have had horrible customer support from both Greddy and HKS. They have no concern about you as a consumer.
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Last edited by Zero R; Apr 3, 2006 at 07:59 PM.
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Joined: Aug 2002
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From: Lafayette, LA
Originally Posted by r71
I would just by the knockoff as a base and modify it. Make it so it will work.
Originally Posted by LUPE
All of that could have been said by simply saying " Knock-offs are bad".
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Joined: Nov 2004
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From: Malta. Europe
^^^ i gathered that apexi greddy hks and volk suck big time on customer care.....
well i can mention a couple of companies here that be nice till you buy and send the mony then not giving a **** of what happens to you. they would actually lie telling you the product is ready to ship and after a goddamn 3 months you still aint got it....
but hey... i was told its my problem since i used usps.... companies are companies.
i worked with jason and never had issues, and i am sure that sean also is a great chap. however its the individual experience with a company that can tell....
i would never buy a turbo from a chap on here.... they are a bunch of liars!!! but thats will be in another thread!
well i can mention a couple of companies here that be nice till you buy and send the mony then not giving a **** of what happens to you. they would actually lie telling you the product is ready to ship and after a goddamn 3 months you still aint got it....
but hey... i was told its my problem since i used usps.... companies are companies.
i worked with jason and never had issues, and i am sure that sean also is a great chap. however its the individual experience with a company that can tell....
i would never buy a turbo from a chap on here.... they are a bunch of liars!!! but thats will be in another thread!
