airn

i bought an r85 and the xeccive motorsports a lower intake mainafold. i called xeccive and asked if there mainafold would work with the r85 and they said it would with some minor grinding. after grinding down on the mainafold it still rubs on the front runner. it looks like i would have to grind all the way through the front runner before they would stop rubbing.

does any one eslse have this set up if so what did you do to make them fit?

maxcooper

My quick eye-balling suggests that they won't work together without some major grinding. Someone else used the LIM with a GT40R setup and did grinding on the compressor housing to make some clearance. Perhaps a combination of grinding the LIM and grinding the compressor housing will make it fit. But I think you will be the first to find out.

-Max

airn

the compressor housing isnt the problem its the turbine housing thats rubbing the LIM. i got the idea of shaving about 1/16 of an inch off the LIM where it buts up to the motor. i think that should give me enough room.

is it safe to grinde off some of the turbine housing? i'm not sure because of all the heat and expansion that goes on on the hot side.

maxcooper

Oh yeah, I forgot it was the turbine housing that would hit. Duh.

If it will only take 1/16" to eliminate contact, that's a lot better than I thought it would be. You probably want to get a bit of a space between the two to avoid super-heating the LIM and to make room for the turbo to move when the manifold heats up.

I don't really know if it would be safe to remove material from the turbine housing, but my guess is that it would be okay. It's massive. And you could probably get a replacement from TEC without having to wait too long or spend an arm and a leg if it doesn't work out.

-Max

GUITARJUNKIE28

can you just cut the pipes on the turbo manifold, bend them over slightly for clearance, and reweld?

that's what i do when i put fd aftermarket manifolds into fc's.

airn

i dont think there is enough room to move the pipes in the other direction. i

Howard Coleman

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you really don't want a 1600 degree hunk of cast iron next to an aluminum intake runner. you will absolutely need enough clearance between the 2 so as to fit at least 2 heat shields... fiberglass matting and/or stainless steel plate.

good luck,

howard coleman

airn

i was planning on havving the LIM and the turbine housing ceramic coated to help with the heat issue

GUITARJUNKIE28

yes it's a bad idea, but you *could* shave a bit off the turbine housing with an angle grinder.

airn

well i got the xeccive motorsports LIM to fit with the R85. and it was more than minor grinding like the guy at xeccive motorsports said. first i had to grind the LIM on the front runner, then i had to grind some off the turbine housing and lastly i had to make a spacer between the turbo and turbo mainafold. the spacer is about 1/4'. i sure hope this damm LIM was worth all the trouble of making it fit.

GUITARJUNKIE28

where'd you get the manifold from?

moehler

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You can get them here:

http://www.xcessivemotorsports.com/m...l?id=10&step=2

They are often on ebay (although not right now) for about $5-$20 cheaper sold by the same place I think.

GUITARJUNKIE28

dood!

i swear i've been on that site and couldn't find pricing or payment options... am i going insane?

nm, don't nswer that.

r0gu3

If they charge $28 for an EGR block-off plate, how much are they pocketing off the LIM's?

TT_Rex_7

On the LIM, not much actually. The mold was damn expensive. However, I can't say how much they make, nor how much the mold was.

In most cases though, companys make quite a bit of money off things of this sort. Hell, PTP charges $120.00 (On sale for $95.00 though) for a stainless 13b flange. I machine 1/2" stainless 20b flanges on one of my CNC mills (ALOT nicer finish than plasma/waterjet/laser) for $120.00. That should give you a small idea on how much other people make off things of this sort. They're just greedy!

-Alex

GUITARJUNKIE28

why do we do it?

because we can

pp13bnos

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I'll be honest. I'm a good friend of Ralphs, so he sold me the LIM for cost. I'm not going to tell you guys how much I paid for it....but lets just say, he's not making a large amount of money on them and will never break even overall. When I picked up mine, he'd sold 5. Not 500 or even 50....but 5. I know Ari got one, and a couple others on this forum.....but he's not selling tons of them. (last I heard.) I think its cool that there are people out there that are still making products for a car that has'nt been sold in the US for almost 10yrs! While the product might not be perfect for every turbo setup out there, I'm extremely happy with it. The last thing I think we should do is bash the price given the amount of units sold to compared to $$ made.

For those who have a stock secondary fuel rail, you will have to grind the LIM & fuel rail down a bit also....but this is'nt anything major imop. CJ

You guys can also thank him and Rob@Pineapple for the GZ oil pan.

TT_Rex_7

I'm not sure when you got yours, but he broke even quite a while back, and has sold well over 5 LIM's. He just got finished ordering a second batch of them also. I know exactly how much he spent on the mold, and how much it costs to have each one made, but that's not anyones business.

On a side note, the price is VERY VERY reasonable, and there shouldn't be any bashing directed towards Ralph. He doesn't make much $$ of each one. Ralph only made these to help out the rx7 community.

-Alex

MARTIN

k2rd used to have the block off plates for 30 shipped. And this guy is charging 28 for just an egr. I know people that make flanges. He made 2 flanges for my girls tc(exhaust) and it came out $60

pp13bnos

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My LIM was the very last one of the first batch. CJ

TT_Rex_7

He still had a few laying around though. I was going to pick one up, even though they "Wasn't for sale." However, I decided not to since I got the sudden urge to do a custom intake manifold. Now I wish I would have just picked one up, and used the factory UIM. lol

-Alex

Edit: Nvm, you probably picked up the last one he had laying around since you seem to also know him quite well.