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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 06:53 PM
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gt35r is that the same as the 35/40?
what power can u make out of them on 15psi?
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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I have a large streetport and S6 rotors.. making >410 whp at 13 psi with a 62-1 with a divided .96 a/r exhaust housing. I start boosting well at 3,000 rpm and see full boost inbetween 4,000 and 4,500 rpm. Judging by the set-up you have, I'd say you could expect similar results.

This turbo is very strong, but I know GT35Rs, T61s, and the others named here are all great turbos as well... if it were me, I'd buy the cheapest out of those three (GT35R, T61 or 62-1) that you can find and call it good. Your car is going to be phenomenal no matter which turbo you choose.

Good luck.
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Old Sep 5, 2006 | 07:47 PM
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hey mate thanks heaps for ur words,, helped me out a bit cheers
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 03:25 AM
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Originally Posted by peachykeenwight
I have a large streetport and S6 rotors.. making >410 whp at 13 psi with a 62-1 with a divided .96 a/r exhaust housing. I start boosting well at 3,000 rpm and see full boost inbetween 4,000 and 4,500 rpm. Judging by the set-up you have, I'd say you could expect similar results.

This turbo is very strong, but I know GT35Rs, T61s, and the others named here are all great turbos as well... if it were me, I'd buy the cheapest out of those three (GT35R, T61 or 62-1) that you can find and call it good. Your car is going to be phenomenal no matter which turbo you choose.

Good luck.

i doubt you're getting 410+ whp at 13psi. that would be so far out of the efficiency range it's not even funny. the .96 housing is undivided.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 03:43 AM
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so u think it would make less or more then 410?
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 09:20 AM
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I will be running a MasterPower T60 w/ 1.00 a/r divided. Ill let you guys know when the cars ready on the dyno. Ill put puttin around 14psi until im ready to go 18-20.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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so u think it would make less or more then 410?

less. if it actually DID do 410 @ 13psi, which i doubt, it's somewhere in the low 60's for efficiency. i honestly don't see it happening. if he said 14, it'd be a stretch, but maybe believable under very good conditions.

400@ 14-16 is about the norm for that compressor. if you're running meth or race gas, you can lean it out and crank the timing way up and hit a bit more.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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I have a dyno sheet of 409.6rwhp @ 14psi before it was tuned by Steve. Judging by the changes made, I'd say that I am above 409. I guess there's only one way to find out, though. Dyno time in a couple of weeks anyway. I'll let you know what the results are.

And my bad, it's not a divided exhaust housing as guitar said (thanks for correcting me). This dyno was on 93 octane, no injection of any kind on a Dynojet.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 04:31 PM
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so you didn't actually get a dyno of the 410+ @ 13psi?
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
i doubt you're getting 410+ whp at 13psi. that would be so far out of the efficiency range it's not even funny. the .96 housing is undivided.

hey mate how did u read that off the map, i went to like 1.95 on the vertical the acros to like 41 on the horizontal but it didnt show 60%, so where did i go worng lol
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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the map is scaled in airflow, not hp.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
so you didn't actually get a dyno of the 410+ @ 13psi?
No sir, not yet. I'd say just from driving it that it is an accurate assumption though. I'll post a sheet whenever I have a chance to get out to the dyno.
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Old Sep 7, 2006 | 11:41 PM
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well good luck with the dyno I'll be rooting for you
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by peachykeenwight
No sir, not yet. I'd say just from driving it that it is an accurate assumption though. I'll post a sheet whenever I have a chance to get out to the dyno.

ok, i think you'll end up having to boost it a bit higher to hit those numbers, but good luck on that.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by GUITARJUNKIE28
ok, i think you'll end up having to boost it a bit higher to hit those numbers, but good luck on that.
I already hit very close those numbers without the timing/fuel changes Steve did.

You also mentioned that I would be landing at around 60% efficiency. How do you figure? According to what I calculated, I'm perfectly fine... 75'ish%.

I'm not here to argue. Regardless of however my numbers became my numbers, OWHAT can expect a 400 horsepower car with the correct combination of turbo/porting/fuel/engine management. Do you disagree with that?
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 06:49 PM
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well good luck with the dyno I'll be rooting for you
Thank you.
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Old Sep 9, 2006 | 11:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PhatManBUD
I will be running a MasterPower T60 w/ 1.00 a/r divided. Ill let you guys know when the cars ready on the dyno. Ill put puttin around 14psi until im ready to go 18-20.

hi phat, I just had a local customer call me yesterday with his results. he made 373whp @ 14psi on stock port 13b, he is running mp t-61 with 1.00ar also. unfortunitly he doesnt want to run more psi because his engine is high on mls and worried about its reliabilty.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by bobybeach
hi phat, I just had a local customer call me yesterday with his results. he made 373whp @ 14psi on stock port 13b, he is running mp t-61 with 1.00ar also. unfortunitly he doesnt want to run more psi because his engine is high on mls and worried about its reliabilty.

hey bobybeach do u know what sort of rpm he was seeing boost? and what rpm he was full spooled at 14 psi?
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 03:16 AM
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hi phat, I just had a local customer call me yesterday with his results. he made 373whp @ 14psi on stock port 13b, he is running mp t-61 with 1.00ar also. unfortunitly he doesnt want to run more psi because his engine is high on mls and worried about its reliabilty.
What kind of dyno?
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 05:58 PM
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hey bobybeach do u know what sort of rpm he was seeing boost? and what rpm he was full spooled at 14 psi?
thanks
all i know is that it was laggy untll 4000rpm. It would have been better with .84ar housing.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 06:02 PM
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What kind of dyno?
it was a dyno pack, hub dyno.
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Old Sep 10, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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hey mate how did u read that off the map, i went to like 1.95 on the vertical the acros to like 41 on the horizontal but it didnt show 60%, so where did i go worng lol
Also compressor maps are just for reference when comparing to other compressors,
You can’t just look at hp then assume to know the lbs/min to find the efficiency.... For example the whp will change with different turbine trims and turbine housing ar while the boost and lbs/min remain consistent on the compressor.

And lbs/min changes dramatically through the rev range even with constant psi, so to convert peek hp to an assumed static lbs/min makes compressor map efficiency chart a difficult tool for measuring the performance of a compressor in its application accurately.

I Think compressor maps are best used for comparing boost stability between other compressor.
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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 10:01 AM
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Thanks for the info Oliver!

Hopefully i will break 400whp @14psi and later when im ready upwards of 450 @ 19-20.
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Old Oct 11, 2006 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by PhatManBUD
Thanks for the info Oliver!

Hopefully i will break 400whp @14psi and later when im ready upwards of 450 @ 19-20.
hi phat, yes i think thats very accheivable, with gd fuel or water injection you can make over 400 at 14psi. remember one local customer has made 513whp at just 18psi on t-61 because of the agrresive ignition tune with the water injection he was using.
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Originally Posted by bobybeach
hi phat, yes i think thats very accheivable, with gd fuel or water injection you can make over 400 at 14psi. remember one local customer has made 513whp at just 18psi on t-61 because of the agrresive ignition tune with the water injection he was using.
But what happens if the water inj pump fails or the nozzle gets clogged? I run an aquamist setup, but only to give me a margin of error, I purposely am not tuned for it.
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