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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 03:30 PM
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Anyone here have experiece with RX7Store turbo kit

hi, i looked around and seems like RX7store have many selection of single turbo kits available for FD3S, at an affordable price, and i just wonder if anyone here has experience with thry turbo kits? how it fits? built and quality? detail installation instruction? thz for sharing.
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Old Aug 4, 2008 | 04:26 PM
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We sell at least a kit a week. Fitment is good, but we dont provide instructions with the kit. We will give phone support for any questions on the install.

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Old Aug 5, 2008 | 11:24 PM
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I bought a GT4088 non BB kit for my FD a little over 2 years ago from the RX7Store and I love it!! The fitment is perfect and you really don't need instructions to install, just a little common car sense. IF you do run into a snag Jason and the staff at the store are willing to help over the phone. What kind of power are you looking for?
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 01:29 PM
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some like ~400WHP, planning to get extreme fuel system and HKS twinpwr along with the turbo kit, so does it come with block off plates? and did u remove the rat nest?
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Old Aug 6, 2008 | 04:44 PM
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Block Plates are separate but I would throw them in if a few items are purchased at once.
Yes you can remove the rats nest as its not needed with a single.

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Old Aug 8, 2008 | 05:01 PM
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I have the RX-7store kit. No complaints Just put down 464rwhp today .. also went with their V-mount kit. cheapest setup out there and good fitment
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A local member used an RX-7store kit on his FD. Working great, but we did have to have the manifold resuraced after it blew the engine/manifold gasket out on the dyno at low boost. The SSAC style manifold was pretty bumpy where it met the engine. I'm not sure if they normally resurface them, but I do know this fella was in a messy hurry when he bought the kit so if it was supposed be done - but they didn't have time at the store - I don't know.

After that it was rocking socks off...
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 05:39 PM
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thz for the input, seems like the main concern to me so far is the mainfold, just that i heard some bad feedback from local ppl and i dun wanna risk it, however, they do have very good price on fuel systems and turbo kits, hope so see more inputs b4 i can make the purchase, thz guys.
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Old Aug 9, 2008 | 06:00 PM
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thz for the input, seems like the main concern to me so far is the mainfold, just that i heard some bad feedback from local ppl and i dun wanna risk it, however, they do have very good price on fuel systems and turbo kits, hope so see more inputs b4 i can make the purchase, thz guys.
I also have the rx-7store 'extreme' fuel kit. Very good quality aluminum rail. good price
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 02:13 PM
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thz for sharing info, i am saving up $$ for the GT35 kit, fuel upgrade and twin-pwr.
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I purchased a T4 GT35R kit from RX7store. It took significantly longer than specified to ship, I've since replaced 50% of the fittings/lines provided, and I must admit I really do regret purchasing it.

I'm in the process of finding myself an Aspec manifold/downpipe which will orient the turbine housing much better and make it easier to run all the lines and not have the CHRA clocked at a dangerous angle to clear the only fittings I've found that will fit.

My suggestion, if you do go with an RX7store 35R kit, get the T3 manifold as they custom make it and I'm sure all the fittings provided in my kit were intended to work with it. Also don't expect to see it in a timely manner, I chose to ignore everyone's complaints that it takes RX7store forever to ship things, that was my mistake.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 07:12 AM
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I purchased a T4 GT35R kit from RX7store. It took significantly longer than specified to ship, I've since replaced 50% of the fittings/lines provided, and I must admit I really do regret purchasing it.

I'm in the process of finding myself an Aspec manifold/downpipe which will orient the turbine housing much better and make it easier to run all the lines and not have the CHRA clocked at a dangerous angle to clear the only fittings I've found that will fit.

My suggestion, if you do go with an RX7store 35R kit, get the T3 manifold as they custom make it and I'm sure all the fittings provided in my kit were intended to work with it. Also don't expect to see it in a timely manner, I chose to ignore everyone's complaints that it takes RX7store forever to ship things, that was my mistake.
How long ago did you purchase this kit from us? I havent offered a T3 manifold in about 5 years.
We have installed and sold many of these kits and all of the fittings work fine. What was exactly wrong with the fittings you got? Fittings are turbo specific, not manifold specific. To me it sounds like you dont know how to install it.
Im terms of when a kit ships I have shipped kits the next day and some have shipped a month later. It all depends on the availability of parts. Its funny how everyone expects everything should be in stock for a 15 year old car.

Most shops build these kits on a per order basis unless you go with a Greddy or HKS.

If you look at RX-7addicts post about he has the same kit as you with the same fittings, just different turbo. No complaints.

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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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How long ago did you purchase this kit from us? I havent offered a T3 manifold in about 5 years.
Probably going on 2 years since I ordered it, and at the time there was definitely two kits available, one being the T4 that I ordered and the other was a T3. I had actually inquired about which kit to get and you directed me towards the T4 with no mention of the T3 not being available...

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We have installed and sold many of these kits and all of the fittings work fine. What was exactly wrong with the fittings you got? Fittings are turbo specific, not manifold specific. To me it sounds like you dont know how to install it.
The provided oil drain flange/fitting requires that the CHRA be clocked at least 45deg off center so it will clear the turbine housing flange. This also causes the provided banjo bolt fitting to route the coolant drain directly onto the turbine housing flange. Also the turbo->manifold bolts were to short, the oil drain hose wasn't long enough, I know there were others I'm forgetting as well. Please tell me what I'm doing wrong that garrett, members of RX7club.com, and a few other reputable turbo shops haven't caught onto yet even with detailed pictures of the kit being installed on my car...

and thanks for the vote of confidence .

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Im terms of when a kit ships I have shipped kits the next day and some have shipped a month later. It all depends on the availability of parts. Its funny how everyone expects everything should be in stock for a 15 year old car.
I didn't expect it next day, hell I didn't even expect it within a month, your website claimed it would ship within 2-3 weeks, I expected a couple month wait but wasn't so lucky. I was warned before purchasing it that your shipment times tended to be on the outrageous side, I even defended you claiming people were just being picky, little did I know they were spot on! I live within a few hour drive of your shop and it still took 6+months (I lost count) to get the whole kit to my door. The real insult was being told week after week that my kit had just shipped out and would be there the following week.

Additionally I don't see how being a 15 year old car has any bearing on readily available parts that are still in production today. The only part of the kit that required custom fabrication was the downpipe (ironically the first thing I received, 2 months into my wait) and nothing else is either rare or hard to come by. It's not like I ordered some obscure part for an aging car that takes a little while to track down, these are all things that are easily attainable from MANY sources.

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Most shops build these kits on a per order basis unless you go with a Greddy or HKS.

If you look at RX-7addicts post about he has the same kit as you with the same fittings, just different turbo. No complaints.
I could have built this kit on my own in a fraction of the time it took you to get it to me, without ANY of the contacts with other vendors for parts and without much prior knowledge in building a turbo kit. Since I've started putting this kit together I now realize how stupid I was for thinking it would be easier to just get it all in one package, I could have walked away from this venture with a lot more money in my bank account and much less headaches. I'm glad other people are satisfied with what they received, I'm not, so you can either keep insulting me or just deal with it, I know plenty of other people who are very dissatisfied with products/services they received from you but those people aren't typically the ones that speak up.
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 06:10 PM
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Probably going on 2 years since I ordered it, and at the time there was definitely two kits available, one being the T4 that I ordered and the other was a T3. I had actually inquired about which kit to get and you directed me towards the T4 with no mention of the T3 not being available...


The provided oil drain flange/fitting requires that the CHRA be clocked at least 45deg off center so it will clear the turbine housing flange. This also causes the provided banjo bolt fitting to route the coolant drain directly onto the turbine housing flange. Also the turbo->manifold bolts were to short, the oil drain hose wasn't long enough, I know there were others I'm forgetting as well. Please tell me what I'm doing wrong that garrett, members of RX7club.com, and a few other reputable turbo shops haven't caught onto yet even with detailed pictures of the kit being installed on my car...

and thanks for the vote of confidence .


I didn't expect it next day, hell I didn't even expect it within a month, your website claimed it would ship within 2-3 weeks, I expected a couple month wait but wasn't so lucky. I was warned before purchasing it that your shipment times tended to be on the outrageous side, I even defended you claiming people were just being picky, little did I know they were spot on! I live within a few hour drive of your shop and it still took 6+months (I lost count) to get the whole kit to my door. The real insult was being told week after week that my kit had just shipped out and would be there the following week.

Additionally I don't see how being a 15 year old car has any bearing on readily available parts that are still in production today. The only part of the kit that required custom fabrication was the downpipe (ironically the first thing I received, 2 months into my wait) and nothing else is either rare or hard to come by. It's not like I ordered some obscure part for an aging car that takes a little while to track down, these are all things that are easily attainable from MANY sources.



I could have built this kit on my own in a fraction of the time it took you to get it to me, without ANY of the contacts with other vendors for parts and without much prior knowledge in building a turbo kit. Since I've started putting this kit together I now realize how stupid I was for thinking it would be easier to just get it all in one package, I could have walked away from this venture with a lot more money in my bank account and much less headaches. I'm glad other people are satisfied with what they received, I'm not, so you can either keep insulting me or just deal with it, I know plenty of other people who are very dissatisfied with products/services they received from you but those people aren't typically the ones that speak up.
Not sure what to tell you other than I have sold probably 100 of these kits with very few complaints. I might get a phone call now and then about where the fittings go on the turbo, but none have complained about them not fitting.
You will always have to clock the turbo a little but that is not hurting the turbo.
I dont remember ever getting a phone call about issues with the install nor did I see any pictures so I cant really comment on the exact problem with your install.

If you had to wait 6 months on something then is was something that was on backorder that I had to wait on. I dont make these parts so I ship stuff when I get it.

What is your name so I can look this order up and see why it took so long?
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Old Sep 24, 2008 | 10:31 PM
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Not sure what to tell you other than I have sold probably 100 of these kits with very few complaints. I might get a phone call now and then about where the fittings go on the turbo, but none have complained about them not fitting.
I dunno. All I know is of what I received in the kit quite a lot of it just isn't going to work. The only thing I can think of is that most people just replace the things that won't work and move on. Hell had I not seen this thread I probably would have done the same without ever commenting on it. Or possibly many people just aren't aware of Garrett's specifications for this turbo and just make it work even though it is inherently flawed.

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You will always have to clock the turbo a little but that is not hurting the turbo.
That is just not true. If you look at RRR's installation instructions for the Aspec kit the oil feed is oriented STRAIGHT UP. They also provide properly angled coolant fittings that don't interfere with the turbine flange. Per Garrett (and a few reputable turbo suppliers) instructions a CHRA is to be clocked perfectly vertical, and if necessary the MOST you can rotate it is 10-15deg off center, I'm roughly estimating 45deg of rotation to fit the oil drain fitting provided in this kit which in my mind (confirmed by others) is unacceptable. While this may not immediately affect most peoples cars depending on their driving habits, with my car being primarily used for road racing and auto-x I would definitely have some oiling issues, I anticipate having some even at the less severe angle I finally have the CHRA at with the new fitting. From what I can tell the reason for all of the issues is that the flange on the manifold is at an odd angle which causes the turbine flange to be right in the way of the oil drain, which in turn causes the CHRA to be rotated far more than Garrett would recommend.

Here's a picture of how the water fitting would be installed if done correctly to Garrett's standards:

*note there is only 1/2" (at best) of clearance between the end of the barbed fitting and the bolt head for the turbine flange. That MIGHT be enough to bend a piece of hose through but it is certainly not ideal, and would most certainly cause premature failure of that hose.

And here's how the fitting SHOULD be oriented (one I picked up for $2.11 at a local fastener shop):

*note that when the turbo is mounted on the manifold this fitting will be slightly angled downwards, not ideal but better than the banjo fitting.

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I dont remember ever getting a phone call about issues with the install nor did I see any pictures so I cant really comment on the exact problem with your install.
You didn't get a phone call, or pictures, because I didn't call or send any to you. I feel it was partly my fault taking so long to get everything installed so I didn't expect any help/sympathy from you guys (not to say you wouldn't be willing, just that most places are a little leery when so much time has passed). I'm not really interested in resolving past issues, and in my case the extended shipping really didn't affect me as much as I thought it would at the time, so I'm honestly not worried about that. I more or less just wanted to inform this gentleman that the shipment times can be a little extended sometimes, and that it's not always people complaining over nothing. The only part I feel wronged by at this point was being told over and over that the entire kit would arrive within the next week, there was never a mention of back orders just that it would be there the next week. From what I can see you've obviously worked on the shipping estimates and such so I doubt it's as much of an issue anymore.
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Old Sep 25, 2008 | 12:58 AM
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I dunno. All I know is of what I received in the kit quite a lot of it just isn't going to work. The only thing I can think of is that most people just replace the things that won't work and move on. Hell had I not seen this thread I probably would have done the same without ever commenting on it. Or possibly many people just aren't aware of Garrett's specifications for this turbo and just make it work even though it is inherently flawed.



That is just not true. If you look at RRR's installation instructions for the Aspec kit the oil feed is oriented STRAIGHT UP. They also provide properly angled coolant fittings that don't interfere with the turbine flange. Per Garrett (and a few reputable turbo suppliers) instructions a CHRA is to be clocked perfectly vertical, and if necessary the MOST you can rotate it is 10-15deg off center, I'm roughly estimating 45deg of rotation to fit the oil drain fitting provided in this kit which in my mind (confirmed by others) is unacceptable. While this may not immediately affect most peoples cars depending on their driving habits, with my car being primarily used for road racing and auto-x I would definitely have some oiling issues, I anticipate having some even at the less severe angle I finally have the CHRA at with the new fitting. From what I can tell the reason for all of the issues is that the flange on the manifold is at an odd angle which causes the turbine flange to be right in the way of the oil drain, which in turn causes the CHRA to be rotated far more than Garrett would recommend.

Here's a picture of how the water fitting would be installed if done correctly to Garrett's standards:

*note there is only 1/2" (at best) of clearance between the end of the barbed fitting and the bolt head for the turbine flange. That MIGHT be enough to bend a piece of hose through but it is certainly not ideal, and would most certainly cause premature failure of that hose.

And here's how the fitting SHOULD be oriented (one I picked up for $2.11 at a local fastener shop):

*note that when the turbo is mounted on the manifold this fitting will be slightly angled downwards, not ideal but better than the banjo fitting.



You didn't get a phone call, or pictures, because I didn't call or send any to you. I feel it was partly my fault taking so long to get everything installed so I didn't expect any help/sympathy from you guys (not to say you wouldn't be willing, just that most places are a little leery when so much time has passed). I'm not really interested in resolving past issues, and in my case the extended shipping really didn't affect me as much as I thought it would at the time, so I'm honestly not worried about that. I more or less just wanted to inform this gentleman that the shipment times can be a little extended sometimes, and that it's not always people complaining over nothing. The only part I feel wronged by at this point was being told over and over that the entire kit would arrive within the next week, there was never a mention of back orders just that it would be there the next week. From what I can see you've obviously worked on the shipping estimates and such so I doubt it's as much of an issue anymore.
Ok, so you have not actually installed the manifold on the car? You do realize that when the manifold is installed that the exhaust housing on the turbo is not up and down? It sits at an angle where when you clock the turbo in the correct position that it pulls that banjo bolt out and away from the housing.
The way the turbo sits on the manifold its going to be clocked about 15 degrees so the oil drain will clear the manifold. There is nothing wrong with that.

Here is a picture of how the turbo sits.
http://www.rx7store.net/v/vspfiles/photos/Photo46-2.jpg

In the future please call me if there are questions or issues with a part even if it was purchased a couple of years ago, I have no problem answering a question or resolving an issue.
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Yes the manifold is already installed on the car, it wasn't until I went to start installing the turbo that I realized things weren't lining up correctly.
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IMO, having a parts list & instructions would be a major help with this sort of situation. Jason, is photographing an installation really too much trouble, especially considering the number of kits sold?
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I have some pictures of the install that I will put up on the site. If you go to the photogallery on the site there are really enough pictures to get a good idea of how its installed.
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IMO, having a parts list & instructions would be a major help with this sort of situation. Jason, is photographing an installation really too much trouble, especially considering the number of kits sold?
Reagan Rotary Racing did an excellent writeup of a GT35R installation. While it won't be exactly the same it gives a good overview of what needs to happen, where certain lines go, and also has a pretty comprehensive list of additional things you can do to make the single swap more reliable (heat shielding, etc). He has some nicely detailed pictures, and good descriptions of each step in the process, starting with the tear down.

http://www.negative-camber.org/crispyrx7/gt35rpage1.htm
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