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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 10:18 AM
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air to water i/c setup

I tried searching but i couldn`t find any decent info on this , or i usually find old links that do not work anymore
Can someone here direct me to where i can find some setups or pictures to help me built a Air to water setup (this is for a complete drag car 2 rotor)
i just need some of the details involving the pumps and heat exchangers etc , or because its for drag if its better to just use a mixture and not recerculate the liquid , that kind of deal
any help is welcome
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 07:36 PM
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Or you could buy my PWR kit for cheap .
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 07:43 PM
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by felix_is_alive
I tried searching but i couldn`t find any decent info on this , or i usually find old links that do not work anymore
Can someone here direct me to where i can find some setups or pictures to help me built a Air to water setup (this is for a complete drag car 2 rotor)
i just need some of the details involving the pumps and heat exchangers etc , or because its for drag if its better to just use a mixture and not recerculate the liquid , that kind of deal
any help is welcome
thanks in advance

The I/C in my car was a kit from PWR. It recirculated the water trough a hear exchanger and back trough the cooler. I don't have any datalogs of IAT so i can't tell you how well it worked. Most strictly drag setups don't have a heat exchanger, they just use a reservoir with chilled water in it. After every pass they drain a little water out and throw some more ice in. I went with the exchanger because the car was going to be driven on the street.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 08:06 PM
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not that money isnt an issue , but it needs to hold up to around 5~6~700 ish hp
This would be strictly drag of course
do i have to use pumps and recirculating system with exchanger?
Can it be run on liquid alone ? just for quarter mile?
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by 13B-RX3
The I/C in my car was a kit from PWR. It recirculated the water trough a hear exchanger and back trough the cooler. I don't have any datalogs of IAT so i can't tell you how well it worked. Most strictly drag setups don't have a heat exchanger, they just use a reservoir with chilled water in it. After every pass they drain a little water out and throw some more ice in. I went with the exchanger because the car was going to be driven on the street.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by felix_is_alive
not that money isnt an issue , but it needs to hold up to around 5~6~700 ish hp
This would be strictly drag of course
do i have to use pumps and recirculating system with exchanger?
Can it be run on liquid alone ? just for quarter mile?

If you do run a exchanger you have to circulate water trough it for it to work. You can however build a box around the cooler and fill it with ice. The problem with that it is hard to fit a intercooler setup to accept ice and water under the hood. They tend to get very bulky. But you can run a reservoir in the trunk that is filled with ice water and circulate it around a smaller w/a core.
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 09:05 PM
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http://www.siliconeintakes.com/index...4166c912b6c05a

or just search on www.siliconeintakes.com
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Old Jan 24, 2008 | 09:54 PM
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Think of it like having a separate cooling system just for the intercooler. So you will have another radiator and cooling lines. Remember that it will only cool as well as you can cool the water which means you cant skimp on the radiator or its placement. But for setups like the PWR barrel intercooler it offers low pressure drop and a short intake path unlike these huge front mounts. However unlike air to air setups there is added complexity and weight with water/air systems for not a huge benefit (for street use) over a proper air/air system. The only real benefit you can get over air/air systems is you can occasionally have IAT's lower than ambient using a reservoir like 13B-RX3 said that you can fill with ice.

That being said, you might already know of cars today that are using air/water setups from the factory which include the Ford Lightning and Bugatti Veyron as well as the new ZR1 Corvette.

As far as pumps, I havent read much into the specifics of those yet but the Lightning does use an electric water pump for its intercooler, but im not sure how often its running.
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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 05:32 PM
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Not to hijack the tread but, has anyone ever used methanol or ethanol to circulate through a liquid to air intercooler and heat exhanger?
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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 09:23 PM
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I have no idea. Never heard of such a thing.
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Old Jan 26, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by EZFD
Not to hijack the tread but, has anyone ever used methanol or ethanol to circulate through a liquid to air intercooler and heat exhanger?

It would work very well until it leaked. They use to use alcohol in cooling systems but stopped for obvious reasons.
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Old Jan 27, 2008 | 12:20 AM
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Originally Posted by 13B-RX3
It would work very well until it leaked. They use to use alcohol in cooling systems but stopped for obvious reasons.
that would make sense
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