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Old Jan 31, 2004 | 08:37 PM
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Question AEM or FJO

Is anyone using the new AEM UEGO yet , how does it compare to the FJO ? . I want to get one eventually but can't decide , I know the AEM is cheaper but it also seems to have a more narrow range (11.0 to 16.6) and the FJO is more expensive but has a wider range (10 to 18 I thinK ) and it doesn't come with the sensor. I dont think I may need to know what happens below an A/R of 11 : 1 since my motor doesn't seem to like it that rich , its tuned around 11.2 to 11.5 under load right now.
Old Jan 31, 2004 | 09:45 PM
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Buy a LM-1

I use one and have used all the others you care to mention, money for me is not an object and I still choose the LM-1 over any other type on offer today

I will give you names and contact details of many people who's cars I have set up with this meter if your interested.

200+hours (so far) of use and still logs 100% the same speed and accuracy as when I first got it on the same sensor.

e-mail me, and I will tell you why you should get this product

riceracing@ozemail.com.au
Old Jan 31, 2004 | 10:46 PM
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Where can you get one of these LM-1's and how much do they cost?
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$349

It's well worth it.
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 01:28 AM
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No doubt Rice , but I am looking for something to stay in the car to replace the Autometer a/f meter. Both units also have outputs that can be connected to my E6K for data logging purposes.
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 05:24 AM
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You can replace anything with the LM-1 and permanently.

Digital remote display will be released very soon, keep it in mind if you want a proven unit.

Will log down to 7.5:1 AFR and up to 22:1 AFR will display up to 20.9% oxygen so you can see when your injectors shut down on overrun

You wont regret buying one,and the money you save con go on other mods
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 07:53 AM
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What sensor does the lm-1 use?...max
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 10:37 AM
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Comes with a bosch LSU 4.2 but can use the NTK one also.
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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Ok , I guess I'll look out for the new unit , but can you know if it comes with a gauge type display like the others ?.
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 05:50 PM
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Does the LM-1 burn out from the heat or a rotary?

I would like to use this unit for my T04B E6K Turbo II but heard that this unit will burn out easily.

Were would be the ideal place to mount it in permanently.

Thanks,
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 06:46 PM
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Jason , have you used the AEM at the shop ? , how did it perform ?.
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 08:09 PM
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Not yet, but as soon as the one with the gauge is released I will be using that
I have sold a few and have not had any complaints.

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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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Any chance of a group buy ?.
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Originally posted by RICE RACING
Will log down to 7.5:1 AFR and up to 22:1 AFR will display up to 20.9% oxygen so you can see when your injectors shut down on overrun

You wont regret buying one,and the money you save con go on other mods
Mr. Rice,

I've just got to call a bluff on this one, not necessarily on you, but on the manufacturer's specs (or lack of explanation of them) that you quote.

If this unit uses the Bosch LSU 4.2 sensor, how the heck does it read an AFR of 7.5:1? Or do I have the specs wrong and it doesn't use the Bosch as quoted above (it does say it will work with the NTK as well, which furthers my justification for crying wolf)?

The Bosch sensor specs say it will accurately measure AFR from 0.7 Lambda to Free Air.

0.7L * 14.7AFR/L = 10.3 AFR, not 7.5 AFR.

If they are claiming that their device is accurate in that range of 7.5-10.3 with that sensor, then I think they are fibbing.

This would be akin to using a narrow band sensor's reading outside of the range it is capable of (and hence, why you use a wideband).

Now, if the unit displays a lower AFR number in lieu of just showing "low" on the disply like the DIY coupled to the Jaycar, then I understand what it is doing. With a disclaimer that AFR's displayed below 10.3 are not accurate they are okay...

It looks like a nice and solid unit otherwise.

I also would like to know what else is so special about it that makes it better than anything else, since you are saying it beats more expensive units (which I take would include a lab grade setup).

Having built and tested the 1st generation of DIY and Jaycar kits, I'd like to know what they have done "in the box" in terms of DSP to make this lambda meter so special.

Regards,
--Ashraf
Old Feb 5, 2004 | 01:36 AM
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The AEM UEGO also uses the Bosch sensor. I used one on my car, as well as 5 other units on cars at my shop. Never had a problem once, and the readings matched the dyno's wideband every time. What else can you ask for for $300?
Old Feb 5, 2004 | 12:32 PM
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Kaotic Dan,

Are you saying that AEM UEGO is only 300?
Old Feb 5, 2004 | 03:30 PM
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Ashraf

Contact Innovate, ask for Klaus and you will be given a thorough technical explination of why this meter is "different" to all the other "sheep" in the industry

Mine is far more accurate/repeatable than any other I have used + faster and its 1/4 of the price ! if your interested in finding out more you know what to do.

You dont win awards and have major concerns in the automive/performance industry knocking at your door if your making something that is not exceptional

Peter
Old Feb 5, 2004 | 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by bond007

Having built and tested the 1st generation of DIY and Jaycar kits, I'd like to know what they have done "in the box" in terms of DSP to make this lambda meter so special.

Regards,
--Ashraf
This is not some kit rubbish mate and should not be compared to them at all. It has been tested against many top end (price LOL) meters/instruments and while trying to be diplomatic, it does what it claims. PERIOD
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