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Feb 28, 2010 | 04:12 PM

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If you start thinking about how much money you have to spend on a 600 rwhp 13b, you realize its not much more comparatively to go 20b. It is not double the cost, you need more then a turbo to make 600 rwhp on a 13b. Also, you can sell all your 13b parts when you go 20b.

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wrong again, look at what enzo has done... big turbo+stock block=over 700whp.

Feb 28, 2010 | 04:13 PM

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And the rest of the items attached to the engine and work involved is free?

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Feb 28, 2010 | 04:35 PM

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He does his own work. Also, all the stuff that gets put on a 13B motor will also have to be put onto a 20B motor, if not more.

Feb 28, 2010 | 04:37 PM

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Thats my point lol...

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Feb 28, 2010 | 09:35 PM

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Which would....still make the 20B cost more then the 13B because inital cost is much higher. I thought your point was the the 20B was cheaper then the 13B.

Feb 28, 2010 | 09:37 PM

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Please point out exactly where I said that.

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Feb 28, 2010 | 09:43 PM

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"600 rwhp on pump isn't a problem but you'll have to get a big turbo which will be laggy and lots of supporting mods. For similar amounts of money, you could do a 20b"

You didnt actually say it was cheaper, but you said for a similar amount of money.

Feb 28, 2010 | 09:52 PM

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I can not imagine any 600rwhp 2 rotor running pump fuel. The money you spend on race gas will be penny's compared to the build and supporting mods. If you cant afford the c16-q16 for when you want to crank the boost up I would shoot for lower numbers. Not like anyone drives around running 30psi on the streets daily!

Were making 620 rwhp at 24 psi, on 93 pump and meth injection (only 300cc). 800 is doable on pump gas. Absolutely no need for race fuel at 600 rhwp.
Spool up is not an issue... usable powerband is 4500-8500, more than enough for its purpose.

Feb 28, 2010 | 11:39 PM

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^^ I wonder how long that will last. Why dont you run 1000cc of meth? I can see 300cc water at that power level but not 300cc meth.

Feb 28, 2010 | 11:40 PM

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how long did you runing on 620 ?

Mar 1, 2010 | 12:09 AM

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^^ I wonder how long that will last. Why dont you run 1000cc of meth? I can see 300cc water at that power level but not 300cc meth.

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how long did you runing on 620 ?

4 years/3000 miles so far at 600+.
A new fuel system will be put in place next winter.

Mar 1, 2010 | 12:19 AM

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4 years/3000 miles so far at 600+.
A new fuel system will be put in place next winter.

wow thats a pretty long times for the hp on pumps. all i need is a good 3 years of beating. i be very happy with that.
and what fuel system do you used for that hp. i am use the 850\1600 right now . but i dont think that will get me to the gold

Mar 1, 2010 | 02:21 AM

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where do you get ur fuel rails for the 1680 primary. how much hp did you put out on 30psi?

I got both rails from Keith@ KG Parts. I just upgraded to 4 secondary injectors and also got that rail from Keith.

I'm around 600-630HP.

Mar 1, 2010 | 05:50 PM

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i consider e85 pump considering i have 17gas stations all within a 100mile radius

Mar 2, 2010 | 01:37 AM

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I got both rails from Keith@ KG Parts. I just upgraded to 4 secondary injectors and also got that rail from Keith.

I'm around 600-630HP.

4 secondary injectors .how is that works . are you using weld-on injector boss?

Mar 2, 2010 | 02:24 AM

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I make 600-620 whp on 93, but then, I'm cheating with the extra rotor. I need to dyno again soon and see what the exact number is, I'm thinking closer to 620.

Mar 5, 2010 | 08:09 PM

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4 years/3000 miles so far at 600+.
A new fuel system will be put in place next winter.

So do you run the car at the track? I am just curious if the 600rwhp is a dyno pull or gear pull here and there on the street or do you actually track the car--beat on it at that level?

Mar 6, 2010 | 02:14 PM

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So do you run the car at the track? I am just curious if the 600rwhp is a dyno pull or gear pull here and there on the street or do you actually track the car--beat on it at that level?

Its a weekend car, which see's highway pulls. It's being built for the Texas mile, so in the last year it hasnt seen much beating. No quarter milles, not our thing.
once the body is complete our attention will turn back to the motor. More fuel, more boost, more meth.

Mar 6, 2010 | 02:41 PM

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4 secondary injectors .how is that works . are you using weld-on injector boss?

There is a lower intake that has 4 secondary holes(one in each runner) that they use. Thinks call a xs or excessive intake or something like that. Other can correct me on the name

Mar 6, 2010 | 03:36 PM

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There is a lower intake that has 4 secondary holes(one in each runner) that they use. Thinks call a xs or excessive intake or something like that. Other can correct me on the name

I have the Xccesive lower intake manifold, Keith from KGParts makes the fuel rain for the 4 injectors, I got the setup from Keith. Fits perfect with no issues.

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Mar 6, 2010 | 03:40 PM

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Any vids?

Quarter mile may not be for everyone but keep in mind its a safe way top out 4th gear and at least get a MPH measure to see how much HP you really are making. Roll out the hole and hit it, mph rarely changes even if launching.

Mar 6, 2010 | 05:13 PM

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zv3IvzewIdg

The dyno is pretty safe way to top out 4th as well;-) 619 at 24psi, 7300rpm, very conserative tune as we had no more fuel. Optimum tune would have netted around 645. this was back in '08. Previous setup to that made 609.

Mar 18, 2010 | 06:51 PM

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Ahh I can't wait. Doing 6 x 1000cc, e85 setup. I have a few pumps which aren't too far, its not a daily, so I am not worried about distance. Plan to buy a drum or two and keep them in garage.