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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 12:51 AM
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Thumbs up 12a Single Turbo T3

Just got done getting tached need feed back of what you all think.

It's on T3 flange pipes are equal running length 304 SS will be tigged early next week.

Will be making the the waste gate runner of of the rear exhaust

Using a racing beat 12a flange.
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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 05:57 AM
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Awesome, Just hope it clears everything.
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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 07:30 AM
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Your going to end up with a severe hot spot right where that triangle insert is, you've 'dog legged' the flow pretty hard, You might want to consider using a heavier wall at that point. Also the the way the Turbo is oriented to hang off that flange, ( assumed by the flange angle), is going to put allot of stress on the flange welds.. brace the turbo to minimise that loading.
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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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^^What he said. That triangle piece is going to get HOT, hope its thick. Your wastegate runner should be smack in the middle between your runners. Putting it on the rear only defeats the purpose of making your main runners equal and will make your rotors see different back pressures from one another. Will it still work? Yes, but its not optimal, and since your MAKING it, why not do it right.

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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 11:53 AM
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thanks going to change out that triangle piece
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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 05:00 PM
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when i did all my 12a turbo setups i always had the best response and power with a much longer runner manifold. i started with manifolds like what you have there and it just didn't work as well as i had hoped. the 12a doesn't flow as much so you need to make the best of it. that will work tho
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Old Jan 18, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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He has made several long tube manifolds, hes making this short one for me cause thats what I want for my application. I guess we will just find out how it works
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 01:14 AM
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it'll work fine. how come a t3? t4 works fine on a 12a
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Old Jan 19, 2007 | 10:47 AM
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Old Jan 20, 2007 | 11:18 PM
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It's the way frosty wanted it, almost all the mani i make are long to build up boost pressure. But I'm pretty sure it will work fine same kinda of power give or take. Hope you like it frosty, will post pics soon of the waste gate runner.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 01:44 AM
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Let's see this up and running in your car with a video.
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Old Jan 21, 2007 | 11:11 AM
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its going to be at least a month before this car is even started with the mani on it
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Old Jan 22, 2007 | 12:54 PM
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Thats not to long of a wait about a month or so? Hey frosty what type of fuel setup r u running? and how much boost do you want to push?
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A month is the least amount of time. I am going to be running a holley blue 110 gph pump with rising rate regulater from rotary shack. Im just looking to start with 7 psi and see how it goes. This is a pure project car so Im sure in time Ill be running 10 pounds or more.
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Old Jan 24, 2007 | 12:47 PM
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Wish i was running 12a turbo setup on mine's cuz this short runner 12a mani in my my boosted rx duce would work just great. But it's coo im a 13b on boost with the bottle 8 injector setup
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Old Jan 27, 2007 | 03:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Frostycrowd
A month is the least amount of time. I am going to be running a holley blue 110 gph pump with rising rate regulater from rotary shack. Im just looking to start with 7 psi and see how it goes. This is a pure project car so Im sure in time Ill be running 10 pounds or more.
Are you running blowthrough? Cause if you are you HAVE to use an efi fuel pump. Something that has at least a base psi rating of 35 psi. I tried the holley blue on my blowthrough setup and it would not drive at any type of part throttle. Again if you're running a holley blue for your fuel pump on any blow through setup it will not work. Even witha boost refence FPR the holley doesn't produce enough pressure to over come the boost pre throttle blades as boost starts to build at part throttle. Especially with how fast it's going to build with a little t3.
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Old Jan 27, 2007 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Hyper4mance2k
Are you running blowthrough? Cause if you are you HAVE to use an efi fuel pump. Something that has at least a base psi rating of 35 psi. I tried the holley blue on my blowthrough setup and it would not drive at any type of part throttle. Again if you're running a holley blue for your fuel pump on any blow through setup it will not work. Even witha boost refence FPR the holley doesn't produce enough pressure to over come the boost pre throttle blades as boost starts to build at part throttle. Especially with how fast it's going to build with a little t3.

I never heard this, Ive been planning to use a holley blue this whole time. I will have to look into it more extensivly before I buy thanks!
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 07:47 PM
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Man looks good frosty i wanna see it before you install it if possible.
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 11:45 PM
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Thumbs up Here is the Final Product guys hope you like it!!!

This man is for you!!!
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Old Jan 30, 2007 | 11:52 PM
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Thumbs up No blue pump

Frosty Im sorry to say but the holey blue pump is not going to work well if at all!!! The pump doesn't push out enough fuel for the turbo demand. And since your running turbo you need more fuel and some. Red holley pump or something higher by holley will work fine, or aeromotive. I highly do not encourage you not to run the walbro pumps they burn out quickly, work to hard, and to fast causing the fuel pump motors to fail, which in turn will blow the motor. If you need help hit someone up here on the the thread or just hit me up if you have any other questions.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 02:07 AM
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yea Ill have to look into something stronger, the reds are weaker then blues though.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by teddyrx2
Frosty Im sorry to say but the holey blue pump is not going to work well if at all!!! The pump doesn't push out enough fuel for the turbo demand. And since your running turbo you need more fuel and some. Red holley pump or something higher by holley will work fine, or aeromotive. I highly do not encourage you not to run the walbro pumps they burn out quickly, work to hard, and to fast causing the fuel pump motors to fail, which in turn will blow the motor. If you need help hit someone up here on the the thread or just hit me up if you have any other questions.
Are you serious? The red flows less than the blue... It goes red<Blue<BLACK. It has nothing to do with flow, it's PSI. The holley blue flows 415 Lph. More than enough flow for 300whp, but it doesn't have enough PSI to push the fuel through the carb into the incomming air durring boost. Do yourself a favor and talk to Rob at rotaryshack, or search blowthrough in the SA/FB section.
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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Thumbs up Mix up the screens

sorry got the pumps mixed up. I had two screens up when i was typing that info yeah it does go red blue black
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Old Jan 31, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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for turbo aps anyway I wouldnt run no holley anyway. Im taking no chances on my set up and im running the aeromotive pumps with two fuel filters. on my blow threw system. Fuel injected as well

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Old Feb 2, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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yea I think Ill buy one of those aeromotive pumps
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