OEM 99-Spec Bumpers and accessories
 

We do get questions every now and then about replicating an OEM 99-spec bumper and my response was always, "Why?"

The last time I purchased a brand new Mazda OEM 99-spec bumper was through Corksports and it was about $500 (not including front lip or brake ducts). That was years ago, but I can't imagine the price being much different now (I apologize, I haven't checked). I honestly think that is a fair price. We could make one slightly less expensive, but it wouldn't be nearly as good as an OEM bumper. Yes, it will be lighter, but the OEM bumper will be much more durable and has proper provisions for a ton of stuff. A replica of it in our hybrid FRP just wouldn't be nearly as good for such a small price difference. The brand new OEM bumper also comes primered! Just sand and paint. Any other after-market bumper, including the urethane plateless bumpers, which are nowhere near OEM quality btw, will need prepping before primering.


Is there interest for brand new 99-spec bumpers and accessories for it at a fair price? We can try to get these ordered from Japan and stock them here.

Thoughts? Feedback?

I know I want ,and will purchase the 99spec front end conversion within the next year , source however is still a question

if you can stock them up and sell at a good price (and you are local to me ) i will definitely buy the entire setup minus turn lamp and lip from you

I was under the impression they are no longer available. Last one on the club here sold in the $2500 price range and there is currently one on eBay (florida) with rebar, lip and signals for $2300.

you can still get them. just pricy

Are you referring to NOS through Mazda? If so, what is the price?

The prices I referenced 3 posts up were in good, but used conditon btw.

You can still get them brand new from Japan. I bought mine a few months ago for $1800 shipped. This includes the Bumper, Rebar, Lip, and L/R Brake Ducts.

As Ken has mentioned, $500-$600 isn't a bad price from Corksport for OEM quality.

RX7 Store also has 99 spec parts.

99 Spec Parts

2188+Shipping for the full set up. (fogs, bumper, rebar, turn signals).


If Shine can make something thats OEM equivalent quality for a lower price, I'd think there would be a lot more people doing the 99 front ends.

can you hook me up with how you ordered it from japan shipped for that price ?:icon_tup:

+1

I got mine from IRP.

Let's get back to the thread. Yes, there would be interest if Shine can create replicas close to OEM quality at a lower price as stated by borisf.

Rx7store has the bumper for $589 which is a great price.


I just want to be clear about a few things. We CANNOT produce a bumper equivalent to OEM quality. I doubt any other company can either without making large investments. OE manufacturers invest $50-100k for tooling costs (molds) just to produce something like the 99-Spec bumper. There are alot of parameter adjustments and formulations injected into those molds to get the OE quality that you see, which is why I said after-market plateless 99-spec urethane bumpers are nowhere near the quality of an OEM bumper. The only thing WE can produce is a lighter alternative with the same fit, but if our selling price is not much less than an OE bumper (ex. $400), no one will bite. And no one will be able to make anything remotely good and sell for $200. $500-600 is a great price for a brand new, already primered, OE 99-spec bumper.

The price everyone is adding up here is including fog lights, rebar, brake ducts, which are items we won't be able to make anyways. We have to compare apples to apples. You don't need the front rebar to install the bumper. But I believe you need the rebar to install the fog lights.


I will further look into sources and see what I can get a hold of for what price and will get back to you guys.

Ken,
There's no need to replicate the OE 99 bumper. It doesn't make much business sense because your profit margin won't be great because the 99 bumper (by itself) is already a great deal. The only reason people are complaining about is that the supply is low but demand is high. The price itself, for OEM quality, is great.

The only thing you could do to help with the current supply issue is to source and stock OEM 99 bumpers and sell them. But there are already 2-3 other vendors doing this and I'm not sure if you guys are in the same market to compete with them.

However, if you guys decide to replicate the new FEED wide body that just came out... I am totally in.

Keep up the great work!

- Kevin

Thank you sir.

IMO I believe that if you make a 99 bumper for 400$ and fitment is ok , you will sell more of these than any other FD bumper you sold.

is a 99 undertray needed to properly fit the 99 bumper ?

No, it is not needed. I don't run any undertrays on my car.

Fitment being 'ok'?

ShineAuto goes that extra step to make sure their products fit better than 'ok'. Often times, their replicas fit better than the originals.
Selling a lot of 'ok' or poor fitment bumpers is going to hurt their reputation for making great fitting quality bumpers.

If you want to be cheap, then buy whats already available on the market via eBay, craigslist, etc..

Sure....

Yes I'm cheap , Please tell me where I can buy a 99 bumper (with front license plate) already available on the market via eBay , Craigslist , etc.... ***that is cheaper****than 600$ + crazy shipping.

And it might even be harder for us(Canadian) with the rumours of new border tax...

I hands down prefer OEM, but I would take a 99 replica (with front license plate ) anytime ( as long as fitment is ok ) But it doesn't exist.

Original ones are hard to find.
I wouldn't be talking if Corksport was still open,
But any other available ones , shipping is almost the same as the bumper itself.

Edit: I don't want to argue more.

I would definitely be interested in a 99 replica from ShineAuto :noyes:

If this doesn't happen, there is a guy who sells them with the plate on FB.

I guess that's what this thread is about. Responding to demand where we can and see fit. Rx7store and Corksports are the main retailers who bring them in. However, they sell out quickly because of the high demand. What we're proposing to do is buy 20 at a time and stock them here if the parts are still attainable. I am only interested in the front bumper and not the extra accessories to go with it, unless Rx7store drops the ball on those items.

I guess what I am trying to say is, there are very few people who see the value in paying $400 for a replica bumper that has to be sanded and then primered (extra cost at the body shop... at least another $100) vs. paying $500-600 for an authentic one that does come primered and will cost you less to paint. Effectively, you're going to end up paying the same price for a product valued much less.

As of right now, it seems your issue is availability. What I am proposing is rather than replicating this, we should look into sourcing and stocking OEM 99-spec bumper because it is simply better value for most consumers. If we had brand new 99-spec bumpers right now for sale and readily available @ $550, I don't see anyone in the right mind passing up on that deal to get a $400 replica bumper. Now if 99-spec bumpers are discontinued or somehow priced at $1000 now, then you would definitely have a valid point.


If we can stock OEM 99 bumpers, we can combine shipping with our other goods which we have a large customer base for and help you guys save on shipping. Presumably, you can buy a 99 spec bumper and a lip from us instead of buying a lip from us and pay $65 for shipping and then buying a 99 spec bumper from Corksports or Rx7store and paying shipping on that. The 99-spec bumper is a classic Rx7 piece and will always be in demand. We're just seeing what we can do tell help you guys get this more cost effectively in your hands and in a reasonable amount of time.

the same guy that hasn't shipped my friends cf ridox pieces in for 11 month.. and refuses to refund him the money.

good luck.. his bumper will crack within couple month has well ask me how i know.

i use to sell body kits in containers for eurobuni and vis racing, shines stuff is top notch, its like comparing lexus vs a civic.

replicating the 99 bumper is a bad idea from a business sense.

i have the oem and urethene bumper on my cars and oem quality easy of install and fitment over the plateless anyday!

i'm waiting for a rep of the new feed kit lol...

Ah, well look at that. I guess you can't trust what these guys say on FB groups.

do it ken ill buy one right away along with your 99lip

Why bother buying it from you when they can get them right from the dealer is my question :)
Trying to be the devils advocate, what can you offer that a dealer cant?
- Part# are available online
- Full JDM EPC is available
- Swap is well documented
- Dealer is local, so no shipping is needed

Im not trying to be an ass, as i want as many RX-7 vendors as possible to keep the platform alive, but i fail to see why buing them from you would be better than a dealer option, and thats important to why i would consider buying from you?
- Do you have better prices?
- Do you offer "kits" with rebar, lips, ducts and lights? (like Corksport did/does)

Nothing fits better than OEM.

If the bumper is $400, honestly why bother? Just pay the extra $189 and you get OEM quality.




Unfortunately in Canada the dealer can only get parts for 1993-1995 FD's. :(

Just get the number, have them punch it, and press order :D Thy wont find it in their part lists or anything but if you have the number it shouldwork. I had the same issue in Norway. Nobody here had any clue about 99spec parts since only 93-95 where sold in europe (none in norway) but i gave them the number and they ordered it. Worked super. But ofcourse i had to take the risk that the part# was the right one since its not easy to return.

All the parts come from Japan anyway, so its nothing different from getting a 93 spec front really. Just a different number :)

I just ordered my 99 spec bumper from rx7store, they were very quick on a reply for how long it would take for it to come in. Normally they actually do have them in stock but this time they didn't but rx7store said Mazda was already pressing them and itll only be 4 weeks till I receive it at my door anyway.

I agree with shine as to why they do not need to replicate the 99 bumper. As for stocking it from Mazda and being a 3rd business that does that then that is the way to go, if its not at one shop then you can be lucky and get it at another. I am not sure why people are paying 2500 for a full setup when you can get the front bumper for 550 and then the rebar for another 500-600. As for the lip and lights I would choose not to put the fog lights on and I am going with an ODULA lip rather than the 99 spec.

AS for replicating the new FEED kits than I am all about that for shineauto to do. I know someone was already trying to get shine to do this but shine had to first get some many to buy before pulling the trigger.

You bring up valid points. This is the reason why we're asking for thoughts and feedback. However, keep in mind this thread is more about us asking you guys, "should we look into stocking OEM 99-spec bumpers?" and not a "this is why you should buy 99 spec bumpers from us."

This thread was created simply responding to demand for 99 spec bumpers. I am trying to find out why some are asking us if we offer or plan on making a replica when I feel there is no need to. Obviously, if people were finding the right places to source these, they wouldn't be asking us in the first place.

There are benefits to order through us than through a dealer. I don't know what our pricing is compared to what a dealer can get you one for, so I won't comment on price yet. But I do know I wouldn't consider it if we didn't feel we could be competitive on pricing. I mentioned earlier about combined shipping with our other goods to save further on shipping. If you are not ordering parts from us, then it probably wouldn't make a difference who you ordered from. We're offering to stock bumpers to have readily available to ship. Dealers don't stock the item. Most people here don't know the part numbers. We can make the purchasing experience much more convenient and to some, that is more important than a marginal price difference.


If you are not located in the U.S, it most likely wouldn't be beneficial for you cost-wise to order through us. Our main target market is the U.S and Canada.

At the end of the day, we really don't care where people get their 99 spec bumpers from. From our point of view, the more out there, the more 99-spec and 99-spec Mazdaspeed lips we can potentially sell.

As mentioned earlier, I am not too concerned about stocking the accessories (fog lights, rebar, brake ducts) as those can be installed later at any time and ordered through other vendors. We'll consider it if they drop the ball. We have the purchasing power and space to order 20 bumpers at a time and that's really the only item we care about.

Also, if you know the numbers, it would be helpful to post them here so people can try getting parts from their dealers and we'll see how that works out.

But like you said, you did the leg work by finding the part numbers and convincing dealers it can be ordered and also took the risk of ordering and not sure if the right part will arrive. There's a huge inconvenience factor here, but it is nice for people to know it can be done.

I apologize. I just realized you listed detailed parts numbers in another thread. I will reference that here.

https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generati...-list-1108769/

its even better for locals that are in California . and can just pick up from your store and minus the shipping handling cost all together. and save some $

I just text a friend of mine that works at the dealership and no luck with your method...:tear:
Maybe North America system doesn't work the same....

Absolutely :).

I am calling around to see what can be done. I will update this thread as soon as I receive any meaningful info.

I would pay for a OEM bumper as long it's in a reputable store, in stock and ready to ship.
I called corksports in december and their not carrying any of the 99 spec parts anymore, which leaves RX7Store. Right after I got off the phone with corksports, I emailed rx7store and its a min 2 month wait cause their currently out of stock. They also don't normally ship to canada cause of the size (very expensive).

If you (shine) can stock the OEM bumper i'd buy it for sure! I know you said you don't want to stock any accessories, but if you can do one do the turn signals.

I thought that Mazda dealers in the US cannot get 99 spec stuff. I read that Ray Crowe can't get 99 stuff. So if that's the case and Shine could stock and sell OEM 99 spec bumpers, I say go for it!

+1 more person who would buy an OEM 99 spec bumper from you guys. I too found Corksport no longer sells them and RX7store has a long lead time. I'm definitely in the market this spring for one.

Ari at rx7.com should have some. And he would be willing to work out shipping. I bought my under tray from him and he even shipped it USPS when Corksport wouldn't.

CorkSport is very much open and in business. What makes you think they are closed?

-Derrick

**open to selling 99specs parts**

Sorry for confusion.

No problem, there is just a huge difference between being closed and out of the 99 spec parts game.

-Derrick

I've contacted Corksports and they are indeed open for business. They have transitioned their focus away from Rx7's in general. They do have 1 brand new 99 spec re-bar in stock right now if anyone is looking for one.

We're looking to work with Corksports to see what we can do to get these back in.

I also had my friend contact Mazda Parts Dept. in Japan just as a regular consumer to see what the street price is. They quoted him 86,000 Yen ($750 USD) before sales tax (8% in Japan). This is ONLY for the bumper - nothing else. Rx7store selling these @ $589 a pop, which is a superb price and I would advise anyone who doesn't mind the wait, to order from them. They definitely have some special connection to be able to bring these in from Japan, sell them at a lower retail than in Japan, and still make a healthy profit.

IF U.S dealers could get you these parts, I can't imagine their prices being as competitive as Rx7store's.

No chance at a replica 99 spec bumper without the license plate area? The current ones are not very good quality and something from you guys would be a much better alternative even if not oem level.

What I'd like to see Shine offer is a plateless 99 bumper like Pettit has *but* improve the design as on the discontinued Eurou Japanese brand.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...65a972d21a.png

We're going to be bringing these bumpers in at $800 a pop. Doesn't look like Rx7store can get these anymore or am I wrong?

RX7.COM still sells them according to their website.
I got my 99 parts from them.


RX7.COM | FD Exterior

^ what this dude said.

Zach Culver's Eurou bumper

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.rx7...bed80ac214.jpg

So roughly $700 + $200 shipping.

We should be able to ship these bumpers for $165

We have these in stock now. It can be purchases through our website. $775 + shipping. Shipping is $165 to a business or $185 to residential. The cost savings come from combined shipping as our shipping rate is capped (lower 48 states) at $185. Whatever you can fit in one box can ship for $165 to $185. Great opportunity to combine this item with our other goods.

Should we offer the genuine front lip as well?

5 bumpers came in. 2 are called for. 3 left.

FD3S RX-7 Genuine OEM 99-Spec Items | Shine Auto Project