vilbaby

ok ...we also need to decide who will be elected to be the next president of the club....vice...treasure and secretary....val you cant not pick people ....memebers of the club will decide this on september 14, at the meeting.

vil

NoPis10

iTrader: (29)

Just a quick note from an observer who is NOT defending anyone .....
I think the one thing that is being forgotten is that, whether anyone likes it or not, Val started the club so it is really up to him to RESIGN as the club's President and his choice if someone should supercide him. As for the rest of the officer's, it is the club's choice to select who they would like to see as their director's and leaders. They should be members that are willing to help with the clubs functions as well as ALL other aspects of the club's needs. They need to be able to LISTEN to everyone without getting offended or defensive about what is being brought to their attention. Club officers also need to meet seperately from the club to get on the same page with each other as to how things need to be organized and/or regulated so that every member is a part of the club and not just an outsider...

l8r

Directfreak

iTrader: (2)

I couldn't agree more. It's his club, and he started it. Period.
If he wants to give up the reigns, that's his choice. Even If Val and I (or others) have our differences - the last thing I want to do is turn the club over into less capable hands as well.

There may be other people more qualified to do the job but that doesn't mean that they want the (thankless) job, or that they have the time to run
a successful club. It's harder than it looks guys.

Razpewton

Well...yeah...he DID announce he was stepping down..

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...light=stepping

He went on to state that he didn't know "who would accept responsibility" of taking over the SOFLARXCLUB. This thread is the product of that observation. Some obviously wouldn't have a problem with being a part of the organizational structure representing rotary enthusiasts in south Florida.

Nobody is denying the efforts Val and others have made in bringing together a band of rotary enthusiasts to enjoy their cars and interact socially. Review the demise of past rotary clubs and the causes of their departure.

Maybe after the club is governed by a group of enthusiasts elected by the majority of it's members, can it move past the controversies, quiet the skeptics and endeavor to become a successful car club. Whether it's Val, Kandela, 10thAEWHiteHeat, Hellkat or Vilbaby, once an elected Board of Directors is in place to lead an organization, that body is legitimized and NO ONE can debate it is represented by the ambient preferences of the club members.

Of course, this is only my opinion....

I sincerely wish you the best of luck with your efforts.

dragonmotorsports

Razpewton that pic is off the chain good job =)
and i vote for kandela for president and for Vice President Razpewton

Directfreak

iTrader: (2)

Yes, and then in person, he was convinced to stay on as President by many members.

Razpewton, I can understand if you don't like Val. Many people don't.
But since you're not even from SoFla, or in the club, then why do you keep swinging on Val's nuts?

You're just flaming in the threads..

Razpewton

I'm just an observer studying the evolution of Democracy on a local level. But out of respect for you and the other rotorheads who are truly committed to the creation of a viable, productive car club, I will not comment on these elections any further. I DO wish ya'll luck and will respect the sensitity of the issue. I'll just watch and keep my mouth shut.

Good luck.

NoPis10

iTrader: (29)

Thanks Raz for all your input as well as for backing out of the DRAMA that is the S.Fl RX Club.

I only hope that this will all end soon so that we can get back on track of being a united Rotary club enjoying the wonders of the Wankel. What alot of people don't seem to see clearly is the amount of hard work and dedication that is needed to get a club successfully off the ground. I have been down this road before and I am speaking from experience about the hardship and drama that comes with being a club, as I headed one more than 10 yrs ago, but once everything settles it actually is an enjoyable experience.
L8R

SOFLA RX CLUB

My intention has been and will always be the success of a rotary club so at this point i really need a good team of supporters to fill the vacated positions for Vice President, Treasurer and Coordinator.

Our advisor will continue to be Joe "LWNSLW" and Secretary will remain as Devin "SoFl_Rx8"

I am open to hear from anyone who is interested in the above vacant positions. Once the team is established I will continue to organize events and venues but the load will be shared by its officers. I will not post on the forum as the officers will have access to this username ...

I know that there are some that dont like me but that its ok.... once this team of officers is set up there will be less of a visual of this person ... I think this way there will be less animosity and we can get to what really matters...being a united Rotary club enjoying the wonders of the Wankel.

-Val

FC3sinfiniIII

I agree with you, friend. Both KAndela and Razpewton have my vote, if i was on south fl.

NoPis10

iTrader: (29)

If you were "IN" S. Fl not "ON"

dragonmotorsports

Val if you’re really in the best interest & the success of the rotary club its time for you to step down and let someone with new ideas and a fresh start. Every time I have gone to your organized meetings it been a challenge to get people to listen to you ...just give it a brake
And let the Elections take its place we need a new President, Vice President, Treasurer and Coordinator.

Razpewton

Although I appreciate the vote of confidence, I'm not in s Florida. I'll post a photochop every now and then, but you guys in south Florida need to come together and decide what you want to do for the good of the club. Maybe later on, after you're established, I'll send down some rotary designed shot-glasses, beer mugs and paperweights to give out as doorprizes at your next meet. I have a few rotary-buddies down there. Until then your fate is in your hands.

(this is almost like watching political campaigns on tv)

Good luck!

SOFLA RX CLUB

Luis,

I know what it takes to organize a meet or venue as well as to run a club. It takes determination and being able to follow thru. You have not attended many events. The last one where you actually participated was close to the end of last year whereas with the others you just simply have straggled into when you delivered a Mustang.

Last year when we had a theme per month we had talked about yours at Amelia Earhart with ample time that could have been your showcase event with banners and the ill forgotten BBQ Grill. That event was left up to you in Hialeah not too far from your shop and it wasnt until the very day that we were all surprised to find out that the park was closed. Something you should have taken care of beforehand. I did appreciate you donating an intercooler to be raffled off. I was dissapointed when i didnt see the proposed banners that were to be displayed. Simon's Asado Meet went well because he did all the prep and legwork and that is what i am used to doing; organizing events well.

As far as getting people to listen to me... I call everyone and let them know about what is going on and even on the very day of the event I am on the phone. At the meet I get on the megaphone bullhorn and inform... there are a few people including yourself when you do attend that is caught up in some conversation and neglecting to listen. So i have to call the attention of the few who manage not to lend an ear. Whoever doesnt listen misses it and oh well... i have done what i needed to do.

When i have had Abel as coordinator making an announcement its always the same people talking away not paying attention. But what can you do... you cant babysit everyone,, it goes to prove who is really in it and who is not ... who really cares and who doesnt.

I am waiting to see who can step up to the plate to fill the vacant positions and actually can give some heart to support the club.

Luis, are you willing to devote some time to be an officer of the club ?

-Val

SOFLA RX CLUB

Directfreak would make a great officer but i know that he has voiced not having time to dedicate to it since he is running a family business...

He has the know how, is organized, proficient with a puter and managerial skills worthy of a leader. I had approached him very early on but I understand that he is busy and cant devote the time necessary to work on this club.

He has however helped with the SOFLA RX club logo, getting the info for the decals, suggestions pertaining to the club, and I value his opinion and input.

LWNSLW also is very valuable but he has remained as an advisor so no decision goes by without conferring with him.

Carlos Lopez has also been instrumental from time to time with input as well but he is a very busy man.

Phil has been there from the very beginning and was the one that helped get the first meet at my shop off the ground.

Simon would have made a great officer but he has new added responsibility with his business that would not allow time to make it to an officers meeting.

So I am looking for some good people that can devote some time...

Anyone up for the challenge ?

-Val

dragonmotorsports

Val I see where you’re going with this!!!
Give it a brake! We the Club are going to have a So Fla RX Club Elections once a year for President, Vice President, Treasurer and Coordinator.
And that’s by NOVEMBER so we can give the new president a fresh start.......
And at the end of the year and every year from now on have a big RX7 Party
So we can all see how far we as a club have gone......
So Val you done a good job so far but like I have side be for give it a brake
And lets begin with a fresh start and I am saying this from every one that has call me, E-mailed other shops that has called me to........

Directfreak

iTrader: (2)

When it's "your club - that you started" - you can't be removed from office. Once again, it's VAL's Club. It's up to him to step down if he wants to. All other positions may be up for election but not the presidency.

When it comes to Clubs Presidents, - it's a Monarchy, not a Democracy. If you formed a DMS RX Club, and started it from scratch as president - would some members be allowed to replace you against you will? That's a rebellion. It happened here too. It was called the Civil War.

Luis, why don't you run for Vice President, and take over ther reigns, so Val could have less input and less to do - as long as things get done I am sure we would all be happy. Then, if he sees that his creation is in good hands, he might step down in the future.

Remember - running a club, and keeping it interesting is not easy, especially amongst us Rotorheads. On top of that, I don't think I have met anybody here who is qualified AND has the time to run a club.

NoPis10

iTrader: (29)

^^Again, I have to agree with Directfreak....^^
First off Luis, how often have you attended these meetings or events????? I believe I have seen you at 3 or maybe 4 events.
I know you have donated items in the past and we really THANK you for them BUT you have been MIA for quite some time. Now you want to jump on the band wagon of all these people that want things to change???
If these so called people have called you (Luis) and complained about the club and it's leader then they are hipocrates because they don't complain to anyone else or directly to Val. Granted we all know Val can be harsh and inconsiderate and probably a real *** to some of us BUT it is HIS club which HE started and organized and WE choose whether to be part of it or not. If that many people are unsatisfied or unhappy then maybe THEY should form their own CLUB and see how EASY it really is to keep things going and ALL it's members happy. Just remember that the S.FL RX Club is Val's and HE decides whether he steps DOWN or continues on as it's PRESIDENT. What is really needed is for people that REALLY what to be involved to enter their name into the hat for the positions that are AVAILABLE. This DRAMA is one of the MAIN reasons I have NOT offfered to be part of the leadership group other than to offer my advise to Val and it's leaders. As I have stated before, 10 yrs ago I ran a custom car club and it is very time consuming as well as a VERY thankless position as no one thanks you for getting things together BUT when something doesn't sit well with someone all HELL breaks loose and everyone screams bloody murder. I only hope that all this **** gets corrected so that I can enjoy the club once again. This drama has kept me from attending the last few meets because all people want to do is whine like 2 yr old children. Lets all move on and let Val prove himself that he CAN run the club BUT also let's get GOOD people to help him run it to it's full potential.
Peace to ALL.

dragonmotorsports

lwnslw & Directfreak if you guys have so much to say (way dont you put your money were your mouth is) and help this club before it die's and the only ones attending this club would be val , and you guy's

vilbaby

me too

vilbaby

we should let the members of the club decide....who they want for the president...vice president...treasure and secretary....all the clubs that i know people never appoint themselves for board...i will like to see everybody on the next meeting and i want to see who is braves enough to talk about it....

SOFLA RX CLUB

Did you not read the prior posts by Joe LWNSLW or Directfreak ? You need to do that before you post...

As it is, you have no say in this matter since I have removed you from your position as treasurer. You did not fulfill the tasks that were required of a treasurer and as it is you still have the funds that could have paid for the ballcaps.

The SOFLA RX CLUB was my creation even from its early inception.. So yes I am on here to stay and I can appoint a team of officers that can support the vision. I am able to accept that the people elect the remaining officers but as it is no one has actually responded to take those vacant positions.

There is no next meeting because i have not set up one.. there is however a meet at Kendall Mitsubishi but that is not the forum to voice opinions as to the selection process of the next officers to fill the vacant positions one of which is the one you USED to occupy. So dont dictate as to wanting to see everybody at the next meeting when i have not elected a next meeting. when the time is right i will post a meeting of the SOFLA RX CLUB and the selection process.

So for now, relax and enjoy the hangout and get together at Kendall Mitsubishi

Be well

AC LINKS

WOW It is so sad to see that someone puts something together and a bunch of back stabbers will stoop so low to try to take it away and believe that they can make a change when you cant work together with the founder in the first place and voice your differences and act on them like a real club should. It does not take a change of officers to make a difference when the members are the ones who have the power to make any change in any event. If your President says he wants something one way and the majority of the member decide not to then the President must go with the majority of the club. It’s as simple as that. After all the officers are only there to provide the members with there services to keep things organized. If you don’t like your president then take your back stabbing *** and make your own club and you will learn very quickly that you are not the only Poisson hearted person in the world when you see members in your club hoping to take away what you started thinking that they can do better the same way you are doing now. So remember the members are the ones with power here. Now if you have a personal issue with your President and you don’t like him for some reason then get the **** out!

P.S. My comments have nothing to do with my club these are just my personal thoughts…AC

robrxray

To SoFlaClub


I have been a bystander for most of threads with this club,
let me just state, that these are my sole observations and not reflective of any club, group, organization.

Having owned RX7's for the past 8 yrs., I found this website, and was glad to see a SoFlaClub when I became a member on forum. Even though I am in Central Florida area.
There seemed to be so much knowledge, events, parts being posted, I knew I would approach club at some point. Then, in February/06, I attended the 1st CenFlaClub meet and met a couple of SoFlaClub members. This motivated me to be involved with local club[still 50 miles away]. The next month, me and another member from here went to MiamiGP, and had as good a time as I predicted and the club turnout down there was off the scale!
Honestly, to all involved, posting, arguing, embarassing, insulting is futile on the forum, come up with plan, take action, and stick to it; as rigid or loose as you the club, want it to be.
If you need to change name/club then do so, and see what happens, sometimes competition brings the best out of people. I know our club has had similiar issues in the short time we have been around, not to this degree or regularity and feel some people post in threads just to fuel a fire, that sometimes is not even there. I am in contact with a club founder in California, and ask him for advise just for me. So, there is nothing that cannot be resolved, this is not IBM or other corporate entity, so the problems are not that big.
I think some mutually agreed truce on forum, would serve as a new beginning of some sort, until things are in order. And in closing, one of my favorite laws of physics:

Energy cannot be created or destroyed, it only changes form

Peace
Rob

dragonmotorsports

Vilbaby dont waste your time here ...............................
let them stay with this club.
and i know you can start a new and better club
and as for AC Links watch you'r mouth boy! Rod that was a good saying