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Old Nov 28, 2006 | 11:51 PM
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Rebuild in Orlando - What shop??

Ok, I did a bunch of searches, the thing is that alot of the recommendations were posted back in 2003-2004, and alot can change in a few years. For example, I had heard good things about Fuego Racing, but now I am seeing a fairly recent post by a guy who got screwed over by Fuego.

So anyone have any recent (in the last year or so) rebuild experience with shops in Orlando? I called Fuego Racing and Ortiz Speed, both of which gave very affordable estimates, but have recieved somewhat mixed reviews.

I also talked to Kilo Racing, which is supposed to be awesome, but they said a rebuild would cost $3500-4000!!!???!?!?
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 06:51 AM
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KILO as far as I know and I have nothing but good things about the others to say,
but Kilo is the man from reliable sources
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:35 AM
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Yeah, I would go with Kilo in a heartbeat if I could afford to! 4K seems alot to pay for just a rebuild tho...

Anyone dealt with Ortiz or Fuego?
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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Don't go to Fuego! I don't know where you searched, but you need to search again. That guy SCREWED an FD owner on here. His car is 10 kinds of fucked up, missing parts and rigged everything.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by jurr1981
Ok, I did a bunch of searches, the thing is that alot of the recommendations were posted back in 2003-2004, and alot can change in a few years. For example, I had heard good things about Fuego Racing, but now I am seeing a fairly recent post by a guy who got screwed over by Fuego.

So anyone have any recent (in the last year or so) rebuild experience with shops in Orlando? I called Fuego Racing and Ortiz Speed, both of which gave very affordable estimates, but have recieved somewhat mixed reviews.

I also talked to Kilo Racing, which is supposed to be awesome, but they said a rebuild would cost $3500-4000!!!???!?!?

For that price I believe you can get a Remanufactured motor from mazda.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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Don't go to Fuego! I don't know where you searched, but you need to search again. That guy SCREWED an FD owner on here. His car is 10 kinds of fucked up, missing parts and rigged everything.
Please speak from your own experiences. I've had my two FDs worked by him, my brother's old FC, and many many many personal friends of mine taken their car there and have had zero 0 problems.

I strongly recommend him. He's a personal friend of mine, so tell him Rey sent ya and he'll take good care of you.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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Thabnks FDREY because i am the one who recommended him to jurr1981. Those guys are great with rotarys period! I mean when 1 outta 100 people do not get the services they are expecting, then they go out on a ''do not use this or that'' episode.

Mechanics are people and we need to understand that evn they make mistakes.
Jeremy is buying my t2 and i recommended them to him because they have worked on this car and many others i know and have all had good things to say.

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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 02:07 PM
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honestly as far as I can tell there is one guy on this forum who has bad things to say about Fuego. He has posted about it here:
https://www.rx7club.com/3rd-generation-specific-1993-2002-16/more-fuego-racing-fun-need-help-again-591743/

But then I have heard lots of good stuff about them too... So unless more people chime in who have PERSONALLY had bad experiences with Fuego, I am inclined to believe that overall they are OK, and that Str8Down just had very bad luck with them...
Though, please, if others HAVE had bad experiences with Fuego, please speak up.

That being said, I havent heard anything negative about Ortiz Speed (other than the guy isn't the best at customer service...) So I am definitely considering them as an option.
Can anyone here vouch for Ortiz?
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 02:12 PM
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also ask Luis at DragonMotorSports.com or dragonmotorsports on this forum name.
he could maybe recommend someone also. You drove my TII and I think fuego built that but not sure. had a lot of extras added after rebuild.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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Thats the one i was trying to think about Jeremy, Dragonmotorsports. But my honest opinion is this, if you pay someone who is a reputable mechanic to do a rebuild then you should get some good work done.

If something should go wrong then you go over to there place and you off em'...........Okay well maybe that was a little harsh.

But seriously be patient on making the right choice and it will all work out for you, and for gods sake, do not let one persons bad experience spoil your desire.

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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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Do not use fuego. It's not about mistakes, mstakes are one thing, he has NO IDEA what he is doing. Why would he convert my car to non-seq, slit my tire and curb my rim, not hook back up the rats nest that he tore out (without me asking him to) and just place it back in there to "fool" me into thinking that he did the work. So it's not about mistakes, he is unethical, and only knows how to build them 1 way, whatever way he was taught. He has no understanding of how the car worked from the factory, no baseline knowledge, and shouldn't be working on cars. But ven after he did all that to my car, he still refused to refund any of my money. He is a HACK.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 02:55 PM
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And BTW he jacked all these peoples cars.
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ighlight=fuego
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ighlight=fuego
https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.p...ighlight=fuego

Just to name a few. And he destroyed 2 of Ashe's cars (a guy here in jax), when he gets back from sea, I'm sure he will be happy to post. Trust me, there is a reason he is cheap, he SUCKS. Just go to his "shop" and you will lagh, it's a lean-to behind a mexican car dealership. No indoors at all, your car will be sitting outside in his junkyard. Works under a tin roof when it rains. That place is comical.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 03:06 PM
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Here we go again...
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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Okay well i am just saying that he has worked on alot of rotarys in the C. FLA areas and i think that he has done alot of better work than shitty. I am from Tallahassee and i have never seen his shop nor talked to him.

But i know of several people who have had their cars worked on by him and they all had good things to say.

Not to sound like a jerk str8down, but, if you noticed his shop was a taco stand, why in the world would you take a FD to him?

Maybe we all could be taught a lesson in all of this opiniative stuff.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 03:11 PM
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And dnot all cheap rotary mechs are bad. We are al trying to spend less on everything. If one shop is doing rebuild for 4k and another for 2k, wich one are you gonna go to? These are rx-7's man not Lambos!
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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I had my car shipped to him based on forum recomendation. I never saw his "Shop" (haha) until I went to pick up my car for the first of many times. I wish I didn't beleive all the cheap kids here who think cheap and loud is good. Go to Pettit or another reputable company please.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 04:07 PM
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OKay well that makes sense. Whatever happened to that place in JAX called drivingforce? I think thats what its called.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 04:14 PM
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Just send it to landers knowing you can sleep at night and not take a part time job to redo a rebukit motor.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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Well even the great Kevin Landers has had bad reveiws. And i am not saying he is a bad guy because i know he is not. But you can never be 100% sure on a rebuild or even a reman for that case.

Whenever you do a rebuild you are taking a gamble at mechs using alot of used parts to put money in their pockets, period.

Sure there are alot of well known rebuild places, Landers, mazdatrix, Racing Beat, RX-doctor,Rotary Shack, etc. But alot of times the demographic are younger guys who are on a strict budget and cannot afford 3-4k on a rebuild when their cars are not even worth 1000.

Its all a gamble man and when you put your trustworthiness iinto someone its just a chance you have to take. Even the best mechs make mistakes and that does not even make them bad guys, just humans.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 04:58 PM
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I think they are still around, but I heard too many horror stories about them to even consider it. In hindsight, there is no way they could do a worse job than Fuego, and it would have been local for me to constantly check up on them. I guess hindsight is always 20/20, I am just trying to save other people the nighmares that Fuego causes.



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OKay well that makes sense. Whatever happened to that place in JAX called drivingforce? I think thats what its called.
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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well, I don't know what to tell you. Aircraft engines are rebuilt everyday and you can't worry that its going to fail everyday. I think you are just a little nervous and in life everything is a gamble. I don't know what you are looking for, but you are looking for a bullet proof motor. Some of the guys you mention barely make a profit off these motors and rebuild these motors as close to specs as possible. When you get a motor put into your car, you need to bring your own contract. If they are not willing to do sign it (with in reasonable aspects)...then they are not 100% sure of the work. A lot of times motors get rebuilt and kids put on exhaust systems and intakes not knowing they are a step a way from an apex lodged into the housing or not can't wait for the motor to break in. All I know is Landers is willing to work with you and everyone is going to get bad reviews..because sometimes kids have nothing else better to do than slander. If you are really worried that much about the rotary motor, then maybe rx-7s are not for you.

If you are really that worried, just do what I did.

Get the Service booklet
An engine stand/adaptor
Some tools and DIY

I've seen more people worried about their motor than a doctor sticking a knife in your stomach.

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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 05:09 PM
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Ok, so Str8 your not the only guy who had some bad work done by Fuego. I am curious though, it seems like all the people who had trouble with Fuego have an FD, but alot of people with FCs seemed happy with him. So maybe its just that he knows FCs but not FDs...?
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 05:18 PM
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well, I don't know what to tell you. Aircraft engines are rebuilt everyday and you can't worry that its going to fail everyday. I think you are just a little nervous and in life everything is a gamble. I don't know what you are looking for, but you are looking for a bullet proof motor. Some of the guys you mention barely make a profit off these motors and rebuild these motors as close to specs as possible. When you get a motor put into your car, you need to bring your own contract. If they are not willing to do sign it (with in reasonable aspects)...then they are not 100% sure of the work. A lot of times motors get rebuild and kids put on exhaust systems and intakes not knowing they are a step a way from an apex lodged into the housing or not can't wait for the motor to break in. All I know is Landers is willing to work with you and everyone is going to get bad reviews..because sometimes kids have nothing else better to do then slander. If you are really worried that much about the rotary motor, then maybe rx-7s are not for you.

If you are really that worried, just do what I did.

Get the Service booklet
An engine stand/adaptor
Some tools and DIY

I've seen more people worried about their motor than a doctor sticking a knife in your stomach.
very well put!
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 06:49 PM
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here we go with this argument again lol, i kno Kilo's son personally and i've seen his work with soem of my boy's ride's and i've seen fuego's work as well, fuego is less expensive but they each have good and bad responses from each. If u want a simple rebuild i kno someone who will do it for around 300(labor) but u have to buy the parts, i trust him very much and know him and his family as personal friends. I can vouch for his work PM me if u want. He has good connections as well for parts and other things but he wont do any serious engine work such as porting etc. because he has retired from rotary. Let me kno if u interested. I also have other people ready to speak up for him and his work.

Also Danito is someone else who does good work, right down the street from my house, close to Speedzone....the place that specializes in nissan... on Michigan Ave and Oseola Pkwy and from what i see, never spoke to him in depth, he seems to specialze in carb. Jus speaking from my experience.

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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 06:51 PM
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