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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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mechanical help please non rx7

Ok on the way home from work today my 2002 mazda MP5 started to overheat out of the blue. I pulled over and put water in the radiator and see if i had any leaks and such. I didnt notice any leaks so I went on my way and it overheated again of course so i put the heater on and it was fine and I drove it home, anytime i take the heater off it over heats.

Sooooooo what the hell can it be? DO you think there is air in the system? I tried to bleed it but i have had no success "I dont know how to bleed this system"

The fans come on so that leaves thermostat and water pump which i dont think it is either becuase wouldnt it over heat even with the heater on if that where the case???

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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 09:00 PM
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i was going to say t-stat went bad. but i dont really know.
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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t-stat gets my vote
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 09:21 PM
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I am leaning heavily towards that since there is no oil in th radiator or coolant in the engine, I just wonder why does it run normal with the heat on????
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 09:31 PM
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i cant answer the question. but i can say only buy an oem mazda replacement t-stat if you get one.
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 09:38 PM
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I wonder if its a big deal for an MP5 I know dealer is the only way to go for the 7

this is funny I am going to have to depend on the rx7 till saturday the daily driver is officially shelved.
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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You don't need a t-stat in Davie
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 09:55 PM
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well its a newer car with sensors and stuff so i will just be safe and replace that sucker. I do remember the olden days when you could pull that bad boy out and run wide open.
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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did the coolant leak out?? if so it could be your water pump....
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Old Feb 14, 2007 | 10:12 PM
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no. once i turned the heater on everything was fine and i drove a good 15 minutes with no problems (beside sweating my *** off from the heater blowing full blast)
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 12:15 AM
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I don't know about Mazda piston engines, but since 1998, GM V8s have the t-stat on the lower radiator hose inlet. When the t-stat is closed, the pump is still working and only circulating water between the heater core and the block. GM engineers designed it this way so that your heater will heat up much quicker in the winter. If the engine is <180*, the t-stat is closed, but your heater core will still warm up.
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Eat-Pez
I don't know about Mazda piston engines, but since 1998, GM V8s have the t-stat on the lower radiator hose inlet. When the t-stat is closed, the pump is still working and only circulating water between the heater core and the block. GM engineers designed it this way so that your heater will heat up much quicker in the winter. If the engine is <180*, the t-stat is closed, but your heater core will still warm up.
yep, pretty much all vehicles after 98 did that to also keep cool temps inside cabin when a/c is on, they saw that hot coolant traveling thru the lines into the cabin afected the a/c, so making this minor adj of the bypass t-stat, all was good, unless the t-stat goes bad
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 10:59 AM
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My t-stat is on the lower radiator hose, so what you are saying is that the t-stat is stuck shut closing of access to the engine from the radiator causing the overheating and by me turning on the heater it starts up the fan on the core circulating hot air into the cabin and just by happenstance cooling off the heater core which in turns cools the water going back into the block.

Makes sense now. I hope it is that and nothing else.
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 11:34 AM
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sounds like the cooling fan on the rad isn't working. with the engine running, set the climate controls to A/C and look and see if the rad cooling fan is running. it should run constantly with the A/C on, provided it only has one fan. the early 90 caravan has 2, one on the rad and one on the condensor. if in fact the fan has stopped working, it could either be the relay or the fan motor. and this is why running the heater blower will partially help cool the engine.
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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nope fans run fine both of the. pretty sure its the t stat
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Old Feb 15, 2007 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by neodriftout
My t-stat is on the lower radiator hose, so what you are saying is that the t-stat is stuck shut closing of access to the engine from the radiator causing the overheating and by me turning on the heater it starts up the fan on the core circulating hot air into the cabin and just by happenstance cooling off the heater core which in turns cools the water going back into the block.

Makes sense now. I hope it is that and nothing else.

Right, it's basically turning your heater core into your radiator.
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