Rtek Iphone Controller for Rtek 2.1
07-15-08, 12:04 AM
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Iphone Controller for Rtek 2.1
So the new iphone came out and at the same time they released the ability for third parties to make applications.
Ive been looking at the rtek 2.1 for a while and the different pda options. When I thought how cool would it be to control with my iphone? I would buy it tomorrow.
Not sure how doable it is, or if it would be cost effective due to the fairly small market. But I thought it is a neat idea and would be all about it. Make my dreams come true! Anybody else with iphones looking for a standalone option? Just thought I'd throw it out there, keep it in mind.
Ive been looking at the rtek 2.1 for a while and the different pda options. When I thought how cool would it be to control with my iphone? I would buy it tomorrow.
Not sure how doable it is, or if it would be cost effective due to the fairly small market. But I thought it is a neat idea and would be all about it. Make my dreams come true! Anybody else with iphones looking for a standalone option? Just thought I'd throw it out there, keep it in mind.
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But yeah I don't see it happening due to the small demand. But I figured I'd suggest it.
07-18-08, 04:51 PM
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if it spoke something simple such as rs232 then anybody could make an interface for it. Not to really bash you or anything but damn near every piece of Cisco gear in existance has a rs232 console port on it.
07-18-08, 04:58 PM
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Hate to break it to you but the Rtek stage 2 already uses standard RS232.
The problem we are discussing is that there aren't many computer like devices (PDAs, Phones, PCs) that still come with a serial port that could be used for a interface to the ECU..
And since when does cisco make anything that could even remotely apply to what we are talking about... (i.e. A computer-like device that can be used as an interface to the ECU)? I don't see anyone wanting to program a router so it can communicate with an ECU. It wouldn't do any good.
The problem we are discussing is that there aren't many computer like devices (PDAs, Phones, PCs) that still come with a serial port that could be used for a interface to the ECU..
And since when does cisco make anything that could even remotely apply to what we are talking about... (i.e. A computer-like device that can be used as an interface to the ECU)? I don't see anyone wanting to program a router so it can communicate with an ECU. It wouldn't do any good.
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Hate to break it to you but the Rtek stage 2 already uses standard RS232.
The problem we are discussing is that there aren't many computer like devices (PDAs, Phones, PCs) that still come with a serial port that could be used for a interface to the ECU..
And since when does cisco make anything that could even remotely apply to what we are talking about... (i.e. A computer-like device that can be used as an interface to the ECU)? I don't see anyone wanting to program a router so it can communicate with an ECU. It wouldn't do any good.
The problem we are discussing is that there aren't many computer like devices (PDAs, Phones, PCs) that still come with a serial port that could be used for a interface to the ECU..
And since when does cisco make anything that could even remotely apply to what we are talking about... (i.e. A computer-like device that can be used as an interface to the ECU)? I don't see anyone wanting to program a router so it can communicate with an ECU. It wouldn't do any good.
The cisco comment is in regards to how much there cisco gear there is deployed and that to configure them you need a serial port on a laptop. You can pickup a serial to USB adapter for like 15 bucks. I'd much rather pickup one of these instead of a fragile palm pilot with a sketchy connector. Regardless of that I am amazed at what you guys are able to do with 20 year old tech interfacing to a little palm pilot.
The iphone also has a native serial port. granted you need a bit of a trick to get it going (http://devdot.wikispaces.com/Iphone+...+Port+Tutorial) it is still there and can be used.
Trust me. I am not trying to start a flame war. I have an rtek stage 2 and should be installing it here in the next week or 2. I am confident it will be able to meet or exceed all my expectations.
07-18-08, 09:04 PM
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Theres no spec sheet because it's proprietary information. Not that someone couldn't RE it, it *is* only serial data. Releasing this information would be giving up what little we make on the Rtek as it is.
IMO, the serial port on the iPhone is not a consumer level option. I can't say "heres an iPhone app, you need to build the circuit and jailbreak your iPhone for it to work" to a customer. It's just another indicator about how RS232 is going away. Palm has done the same thing with their ports. They aren't true serial ports...In every Palm since the T5, you need to tap you head, rub your tummy and jump on one foot in order to make them work.
In any case, PocketLOGGER 3.0 is platform independent.
IMO, the serial port on the iPhone is not a consumer level option. I can't say "heres an iPhone app, you need to build the circuit and jailbreak your iPhone for it to work" to a customer. It's just another indicator about how RS232 is going away. Palm has done the same thing with their ports. They aren't true serial ports...In every Palm since the T5, you need to tap you head, rub your tummy and jump on one foot in order to make them work.
In any case, PocketLOGGER 3.0 is platform independent.
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well that's good to know on pocketlogger 3. I haven't actually cracked open my rtek stage 2 (still waiting for stage 2.1 chip to show up). I am guessing there is some extremely custom ic's being used? I would have thought that microprocessor costs have come down significantly from the days of old.
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Ok, so then theres the question: why not just get a programmer friend and re-do the whole thing to use a laptop and a USB connection?
Hondata seems like they got it down pretty damn well, why not outsorce it to taiwan or something? I'm shure then it would quickly become the most popular ECU for the FC!
Hondata seems like they got it down pretty damn well, why not outsorce it to taiwan or something? I'm shure then it would quickly become the most popular ECU for the FC!
07-19-08, 10:34 AM
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Because then you are locked into a windows laptop as the only option. I know the majority of our customers do not mind the Palm and this thread started out asking about an iPhone client, not a PC client.
Either way, its basically no different as what we have now as currently we are locked into a Palm PDA verison. Anything we do in the future will be compatible with multiple platforms.
Either way, its basically no different as what we have now as currently we are locked into a Palm PDA verison. Anything we do in the future will be compatible with multiple platforms.
07-19-08, 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by oinesra
Why not just use a palmpilot emulator on your laptop?
A lot of PCs have serial, the latitude d820 im on right now has a serial port. Haltech uses serial port, they dont have any problems. the think the most valuable addition to the rtek7 woudl be a PC version of the software, pretty much every other type of aftermarket ECU uses PC. besides, i would think most people tune their cars with older, cheaper laptops that usually came with serial.. not brand new. forget iphone, do a PC version, please!
