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Old 09-14-08, 03:01 PM
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Does the rtek 2.1 fit my needs?

Currently my car (87 t2) is bone stock except for:

- RB Rev TII exhaust system
- RB FCD
- Ported wastegate (Bought the car, unsure how big the port is)
- Defi Blue racer boost gauge

Recently my car has been excessivly rich, so 1st things first the a/f wideband is on the way. Next comes the fuel management, so I was thinking of getting an safc. Until I heard of the rtek's capabilites and thinking I should just get her done right. For probly 2 months the car will remain stock, until the funds come in for a BNR Stage 2 or 3 turbo.

As the turbo comes in, these parts are going in:

- BNR stage 2 or 3 turbo
- 750cc secondaries
- Walbro fuel pump
- Boost controller
- FMIC
- BOV
- Koyo rad
- E-fan
- Stock primaries cleaned

The plan will be safe boost levels on stock primaries, such as 8psi maybe 10 if i can get away with it.

I'm sure the rtek will come in handy when the above is on the car. But on a bone stock t2 is the car going to see any benefits? Or am I just spending the money on the rtek too early?
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Originally Posted by Travis V
Currently my car (87 t2) is bone stock except for:

- RB Rev TII exhaust system
- RB FCD
- Ported wastegate (Bought the car, unsure how big the port is)
- Defi Blue racer boost gauge

Recently my car has been excessivly rich, so 1st things first the a/f wideband is on the way. Next comes the fuel management, so I was thinking of getting an safc. Until I heard of the rtek's capabilites and thinking I should just get her done right. For probly 2 months the car will remain stock, until the funds come in for a BNR Stage 2 or 3 turbo.

As the turbo comes in, these parts are going in:

- BNR stage 2 or 3 turbo
- 750cc secondaries
- Walbro fuel pump
- Boost controller
- FMIC
- BOV
- Koyo rad
- E-fan
- Stock primaries cleaned

The plan will be safe boost levels on stock primaries, such as 8psi maybe 10 if i can get away with it.

I'm sure the rtek will come in handy when the above is on the car. But on a bone stock t2 is the car going to see any benefits? Or am I just spending the money on the rtek too early?
If you're increasing boost beyond stock levels then I'd recommend the RTek over the SAFC anyday. There's other benefits to the RTek than tuning. You also get datalogging of every sensor on the engine, not to mention you get a built in FCD and Flood Clear. To top it off you can run multiple injector sequences (the different sizes) without altering your tune. You can tune it on your stock 550's then upgrade to 550/720 and with just a simple check mark all your tuning measurements have been changed over to work with those injectors. (Granted if you up the boost again you'll need to retune, but for what it's worth it will stop annoyances with switching up injector sizes)

Also you get the additional bonus of knowing specific error codes that come up from time to time. You no longer have to guess and count the blinking LED's and you'll be able to tell exactly what is wrong with the car from inside the cabin.
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I agree the 2.1 is FAR superior to the SAFC. What wideband are you ordering? If you get the right one, you can monitor/datalog the AFR levels with your palm pilot.

You can use the rtek to see what your injectors are fireing at. Maybe you have a malfunction that is causing a long injector pulse. If not one injector may be stuck open. That happend to me and you couldn't even stand behind the car when it ran. total gas out.

other plusses(sp?) for you
You can sell the FCD
You will get the Exact boost you are running through the palm although the defis are good
For a few months you tune it in to what you have now, then if decide to up the boost because of the ported waste gate, you just retune and your off.
If you go to 720 secondarys, just a few clicks and your done, its that easy.
BNR upgrade, well, retune.

In my opinion the RB exhaust you have and the Rtek 2.1 are the best options you can get for the T2s.
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Sounds good, i'll be getting the rtek in the next week. I figured it was far versitile to the safc, but just wanted to get more opinions.

Do I need to do any tuning when I get the rtek? Or do they set it for perfect stock levels? I'm thinking I need to lean out or do something with my injectors cause the richness is just ridiculous. My friend told me when he drives behind me he gets a huge head rush because he gets really high off of exhaust fumes. I know rotary's are bad on gas but right now its just horrific. I noticed when I pop the hood while its running and just sniff around I can smell gas so maybe one of the injectors are leaking. I will be checking out the injectors soon. The mileage is pretty bad too, I get about 250km to a tank, starting twice a day, and light on the gas pedal.

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I'm not sure which wideband to get yet, it will either be the plx or innovate. I can't make a decision yet.

Innovate: $399
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/x...cat=262&page=1

PLX: $255
http://www.plxdevices.com/products/dm5/afrsmcombo/

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Originally Posted by Travis V
Sounds good, i'll be getting the rtek in the next week. I figured it was far versitile to the safc, but just wanted to get more opinions.

Do I need to do any tuning when I get the rtek? Or do they set it for perfect stock levels? I'm thinking I need to lean out or do something with my injectors cause the richness is just ridiculous. My friend told me when he drives behind me he gets a huge head rush because he gets really high off of exhaust fumes. I know rotary's are bad on gas but right now its just horrific. I noticed when I pop the hood while its running and just sniff around I can smell gas so maybe one of the injectors are leaking. I will be checking out the injectors soon. The mileage is pretty bad too, I get about 250km to a tank, starting twice a day, and light on the gas pedal.

AUGieDogie

I'm not sure which wideband to get yet, it will either be the plx or innovate. I can't make a decision yet.

Innovate: $399
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/x...cat=262&page=1

PLX: $255
http://www.plxdevices.com/products/dm5/afrsmcombo/
I have the innovate coming my way, but I only spent 289 for the LC1... Just me though, I didn't get anything fancy like the XD16 gauge. But both the Innovate and the PLX are good Widebands.

As for tuning, you will need to set your injectors and what not and select the ATP input (or use the stock sensor) and you'll be good to go. I would not recommend tuning it until you have a WBo2
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Originally Posted by lax-rotor
I have the innovate coming my way, but I only spent 289 for the LC1... Just me though, I didn't get anything fancy like the XD16 gauge. But both the Innovate and the PLX are good Widebands.

As for tuning, you will need to set your injectors and what not and select the ATP input (or use the stock sensor) and you'll be good to go. I would not recommend tuning it until you have a WBo2
I'm leaning over to the innovate, its basically just about money.

I would assume WBo2 means wideband o2? If it does then yea I was planning on having it before the rtek.
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Originally Posted by Travis V
I'm leaning over to the innovate, its basically just about money.

I would assume WBo2 means wideband o2? If it does then yea I was planning on having it before the rtek.
Yup.
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http://www.plxdevices.com/products/sm/afr/

no gauge, but you can add one later, and just use your palm for now
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^ The plx is no issue for money, I can easily afford the combo with gauge. It's just the innovate is a bit pricey. Still have to buy the rtek too.
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Originally Posted by Travis V
^ The plx is no issue for money, I can easily afford the combo with gauge. It's just the innovate is a bit pricey. Still have to buy the rtek too.
If you're spending over 300 bucks on a wideband you better be doing some tuning.
You can pick up the LC1 with a gauge for 289. You can spend a little extra (I think 350) and get the LC1 with a really fancy/nice gauge. You can just buy the LC1 for like 189 or something without the gauge.

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/x...cat=262&page=1
http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/x...cat=262&page=2
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I was looking into that $289 setup but I don't like the gauge display. I like the flashy a/f gauges. I ended up purchasing the plx.
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Originally Posted by Travis V
I was looking into that $289 setup but I don't like the gauge display. I like the flashy a/f gauges. I ended up purchasing the plx.
I boo you and your flashy gauges! Boo! BOO!! BOOOO! JK, good purchase. I know another 7 owner that had one and it's worked well for him.
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^ You gotta pimp the ladies with the flashy gauges you know?
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We'll see about that one. I just hook up my palm to my ecu and I get comments like "That's awesome! What do the numbers mean? How do you make your car go faster?" ETC. TO which i respond: That's how the car talks to me.
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Haha nice, can't wait to get the rtek. Thinking about getting this for the palm:

http://www.gizmos2go.com/palm-iiic-h...-3c80600u.html

I don't really want a cheap *** palm that just works, this one looks hawt!
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Meh, it's okay I guess.... But I love my TX, but it's a little more pricey than that. But I'm using it for more than just engine managment.
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