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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 02:30 PM
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Exclamation A warning to those that run aeromotive fuel filters!!!!

I was just pulling my fuel system out of the car to part out and store whats left. I went to blow the fuel from the filter with compressed air and it shot out of my hand like a rocket. I tried to blow trough it but it was VERY stopped up. I pulled it apart only to find very little particulates. It had a slime feel to it and smelled like oil. I don't know what caused it, weather it was the two stroke oil or the setting for months but whatever it is can't be good for flow. So either get the stainless element and keep the fuel system clean or check your filter on a very regular basis!!!
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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Oh no, the fuel filter demons got you too?!?!?!?!?!?
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 07:16 PM
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I figured this would hit close to home with you!
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 07:39 PM
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Which aeromotive filters were you using?
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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I've had good luck with their micron filters. I think that's what you call them.
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 07:48 PM
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Which aeromotive filters were you using?

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...10002_60228_-1

Huh, they recommend running it after the pump now. I always saw them before the pump. How would that work on a mechanical pump?

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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 07:53 PM
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Same one I used on my old car and new one. Worked good for me


What the heck are you puttin in your tank ?
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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What the heck are you puttin in your tank ?
Castor bean oil and rum.

Were you premixing Eric?

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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 13B-RX3
Castor bean oil and rum.

Were you premixing Eric?
You're gonna laugh.......... but the one and only time that I premixed was before dyno runs which was about 3 seperate occasions

No omp either.
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 08:35 PM
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You're gonna laugh.......... but the one and only time that I premixed was before dyno runs which was about 3 seperate occasions

No omp either.

Ok

1-no wastegate
2-no BOV
3-no omp
4-no premix


Why don't you try running it without a radiator too?
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 13B-RX3
Ok

1-no wastegate
2-no BOV
3-no omp
4-no premix
I want a vid of that dyno pull.... (pop)
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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Sound like you got some **** in your gas tank. That's what those filters are designed to do. Filter out the particles in your gas and crap that's in your tank/gas. Why are blaming the filter when it did it's job?
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You need to run a stainless 100 micron filter before the pump. If you don't anything that goes through the pump will damage it and will end up in the second filter that you must run after the pump to protect the injectors. At that stage the second filter becomes cloged very easily because you normally run a lower micron filter there.
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There was not enough **** in the filter to plug it up. Something had saturated the paper an caused it to restrict. Since i installed that filter i have maybe run 30 gallons of fuel trough it. I disassembled it and blew what little **** it had in it out and it still seemed restricted. So yeah, thanks for that little lesson on how filters work .


Edit. and i cleaned it once before i went to the dyno.

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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by crispeed
You need to run a stainless 100micron filter before the pump. If you don't anything that goes through the pump will damge it and it will end up in the second filter that you must run after the pump to protect the injectors.
So i need a stainless filter before the pump and a paper one after?
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damn damn damn allen wtf?
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by 13B-RX3
So i need a stainless filter before the pump and a paper one after?
That would be the ideal setup. Pay attention to the micron settings
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you need to handle your **** little dude
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 08:56 PM
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they say 100 microns is that for both b4 and after or 100 for one side and 80 for the other?
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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Originally Posted by teddyrx2
damn damn damn allen wtf?
You'll be surprise how many make that mistake. The fuel setup is responsible for many blown up applications. The fuel pressure gauge/warning light is one of the most important gauges to have also. It's the one variable in the combination you have no control over and it must be monitored. Defi's fuel pressure gauge can be set up to warn for low fuel pressure based on boost reference.
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 08:59 PM
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thats some good information crispeed
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by crispeed
You'll be surprise how many make that mistake. The fuel setup is responsible for many blown up applications. The fuel pressure gauge/warning light is one of the most important gauges to have also. It's the one variable in the combination you have no control over and it must be monitored. Defi's fuel pressure gauge can be set up to warn for low fuel pressure based on boost reference.

Thanks for the tip Chris, i don't think i would have enough time to monitor any gauges or lights (I'm doing good to get it into the next gear). Maybe i can rig something up so that if the pressure dropped off it would shut down the car.
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by teddyrx2
they say 100 microns is that for both b4 and after or 100 for one side and 80 for the other?
100 micron before and 40 to 50 after. I don't like the 10 micron filters.
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 09:08 PM
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yup true, paper sucks.

stainless micron better.

had the same problem on a turbo car before.
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Old Dec 31, 2007 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by crispeed
I don't like the 10 micron filters.

Any reason? Thats what mine was.

Or did i just answer my own question?
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