61620B

Here is a video of last weekends race event held at Fontana speedway CA,

IDRC International finals.

Track was difficult to race on that weekend,there was alot of gum ***** on the track and to top it off lots of oil downs,damn piston engines.

enjoy.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...deoID=22105355

rotormind

wow, great work. hope to see u in the 9s

R.P.M.

iTrader: (3)

Hey man, nice runs! 9's aren't very far away.

Just curious, is it EFI? Whats the weight of the car?

BTW, I checked out your myspace thingy....wicked music!

ultimatejay

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Hope you get into the nines next year Rene. Hopefully I will have my duece ready to race in some events with you guys next year. Take it easy.

Jarrett

riceburner1r2001

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i was there and very fast, rene knows how to tune

61620B

hi everyone thanks,

The Rx7 weighs 2100lbs fully loaded with fuel and driver.

Yes,It is fuel injected powered by Microtech and Methanol fuel.

I am going to work on my rx7 in the winter taking more weight off to at least 2000lbs.

rotormind

do u know how much power ur making?

61620B

No dyno yet,But i have done several calculations using some formulas from different places.

I come out with around 375-400hp to the Wheels. That is around average from
different calculations.

Lasse wankel

Great work Rene! Here in Sweden if everything goes 100% there maybe be a 3 car team ML Wankeltrim team with a Datsun 510B tube chassis with a 13B turbo engine. Also is my and Mikaels RX-4 from 1974 with tube and engine moved backward 10" with Ford 9" and Strange 35 splines axles and spool weight with driver 1750 lbs! And last if god is good a 231" dragster may find home to ML Wankeltrim in Stockholm Sweden! Plan is if we can buy the dragster go with a N/A E85 13B engine "WR" engine in drag racing edition! Dragster weighs 1110 lbs dry, so performance should be really wild with a 350 hp "WR" engine!

/Lasse

rotormind

i didnt even know that the 13b was capable of that kind of power all motor. but that brings me to my next question. the honda guys set the record all motor with less power, the car that did it only made 340whp and ran a 9.5..... r they that much lighter than u?

61620B

yup,they can weight minimum 1600 lbs with driver and full tube chassis.They could run a big stroke engine up to a 2.6L and only get slapped with a 100lbs penalty.
Plus alot of these big front runner all motor people run aftermarket trannys and don't even get penalized for nothing.

As for us in the rotary world,we can weight 1850 lbs with driver but the catch is,it has to be bone stock tranny and differential.(yeah right racing with a stock drivetrain).The penalties can be heafty.Aftermarket differential add 25lbs,Afermarket tranny 150lbs,Alky fuel for alternative fuels add 25lbs to car.

Total weight of All Motor Rotary 13B with only a 1.3L 2050lbs with driver in the all motor class.No tube frame,No backhalfs,allowed.We have to make it up in the power,thats all i can say.No guarranties in how long a rotary engine can last at this level.

Some of these top racers piston powered cars can race all year long conservative with no problems.

It only takes around 350hp with 1650lbs frame to go around approx 9.5 sec 1/4 mile.

rotormind

so is that why john padila didnt compete since 2005? i heard that he wasnt gonna compete in the honda all motor tuning class anymore cuz the rules changed, making unfair for him.

and r u ever gonna compete in that class?

riceburner1r2001

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u mean jesus padilla, its an expensive sport. t try to travel to all the events, rene does compete n the class

R.P.M.

iTrader: (3)

What class of All-motor are these rules for?

I thought the pro-all motor class was a bit different, like back halfs were allowed and any tranny diff combo you wanted??
If they are going as large as 2.6L then is a 20B N/A allowed?

61620B

These rules are for the All MOTOR class under the NHRA Sportcompact rule book.

They will have new rules in 08 for all motor class,I hard they might even let backhalf race in the category.I don't think they will let any 20B's in that class for a while.

Yes,that will be great for a 20B engine to compete,2.0L engine is still under a 2.6L engine,but i my guess is that they won't budge for a while.

I hope they do let 20B's in,it will be very easy and realible to run 9.5's back to back for a long time,without pushing to motor to the limit.

We should all get together and send them some e-mails to let the 20B back in action.

rotormind

the 20b would kill all the hondas. the car would probably have to weigh near 2400to 2500lbs for the 4 cylinders tho keep up. the 13b is making more power than there 2.6liter. but the 20b has alot more power to play with, so with more wieght im sure it will still make enough power to wipe them out until the point where it will be banned from that class again

ultimatejay

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What they need to do is let the guys that are running 13b all motor have a little weight reduction for next year to make it close. If they let the 20b in there would be no competition and the piston guys will bitch and moan like the did with the 13b. It's always going to go in the piston engine's favor.

Or maybe they should just have an all motor rotary class since the pistons can't hang with us straight up.

rotormind

yah, it would be good if the rotary had its own class but allowed other piston cars to compete. we been going by there unfair rules forever and now theres not many rotary competitors out there. nobody wants to spend alot of money on a car that cant compete because of the rules. we should be allowed to use all we got, including the 26b, and they should be trying to find a way to beat us.