PAC's 20B MX6 does 6.967sec at Compak Attak
06-01-08, 11:09 PM
#26
shut up you jack wagon
06-02-08, 01:51 AM
#27
InsaneRotaries.com
Guess who?? Mr "saying it like it is" is here lol
I left you boys for a few hours while I get drunk over a stinking football "soccer" game with England beating Trinidad 3-0 and theres already a popcorn party in here!!! Im **** because I lost $50 when i bet that England would kill us 4-0 but they ended up only scoring 3 in our *** 
Ok lets get down to the real matter at hand!!! Why all the smack talk from the boys from the west? The last thread was the same issue.. As soon as someone mention PR, you fellas get angry or starting questioning their accomplishments, why is that???
Mr Abel Flaco Ibarra has the record and no one is arguing that fact or tring to discredit him from it, but would you rate him as being the best builder/tuner in the world base soley on that??? If you answer yes to that, then you're an idiot
Every one and their mother know's that when Flaco do perform, he performs well BUT the past few years he's been having some serious issues and I hope he fix those issues because thats one of the cleanest sounding 3rotor on earth..
For the west coast guys,
since you fellas are on the topic of records and talking about the rest of guys will have to settle for 2nd place, how come Flaco never backed up his 209? If he was able to do it once, why can't he even come close to doing it a second time? In NHRA or any other sanctioning body, there's something call "back it up" and thats usually getting one run to try to come within 1% of your PB time to set the national record... We all acknolege the fact that he hold's both the 1/4 mile ET & MPH records in the mazda community BUT most people simply lost faith in him after that... It has been all hype with the "1700 hp" video and all that non sence, but nothing happen after that and I don't think he even qualified in the first race after he installed the new WG's..
Men any idiot will tell you that if Siguel wanted to chase records that Flaco's times would have been history with either ML or some other 20b.. They have the skill and technology to break and smash that record, but I think they're going after it with 1 less rotor to add salt to that wound
Im going to say something that will **** off alot of you West coast followers, IMO Abel is a cocky bastard!!!! Whenever you ask him about Siguel, he responds with "Siguel don't want non of this, Siguel don't want non of this" why is that?? Im my many years of import drag racing, I've never herd siguel or any of the other guys respond in that way when asked about Flaco... They always say how quick he is but he lacks the consistency, which everyone agrees with..
Another thing!!
Why is it that you guys bring weight into this discussion when we talk about PR cars?? Guys wake up!!!!!! this is not 6-7 years ago when PR had homemade chassis's with carbs and a dissy, this is the big leagues now and no one has time to run under weight!!
Why would you spend 100's of thousands to build a vehicle around specific set of guidelines and then at the end, you short change on the rules? La Atriveda, Pica, and other came to NHRA and ran under NHRA rules and still broke records, so don't know whats all the fuss about being under weight..
Guys just accept it, stop making excuses and tring to question everything... Those guys are quick, consistant, reliable and down to earth so just accept it because they're only going to get quicker.
closing argument,
Pac performace is the mack daddy of the 20b whether or not they hold the record..They got that title from their consistency with almost every run resulting in 7.1's-6.9's... Heck even M&M/ rotormaster runs consistant 7.1's-7.2's on their 3/4 chassis, stock firewall foward FD
Siguel and the rest of team PR is the overall kings of the rotary, whether you like it or not!!! Their setups are simple with everything store bought and available to anyone with a zipcode
Im fedup with this topic, it seems like you guys choose not to accept the proof thats displayed on here every wednesday night or in the pages at GRS... If you don't believe the results thats coming out of PR then what about the times at race tracks around the US and Australia.. If you wanna see more proof then come to Atco NJ on July 18th-20th and watch them go on the scales just like last year, but be sure to have your cameras out on Friday night because YOU WILL SEE A RECORD RUN!!!!!!!!!
Butter anyone?? sorry west coasters, it aint mexican flavor j/k
Another thing, stop wondering on the forum and go out there are do your reasearch to make it happen for yourself!!
Ok lets get down to the real matter at hand!!! Why all the smack talk from the boys from the west? The last thread was the same issue.. As soon as someone mention PR, you fellas get angry or starting questioning their accomplishments, why is that???
Mr Abel Flaco Ibarra has the record and no one is arguing that fact or tring to discredit him from it, but would you rate him as being the best builder/tuner in the world base soley on that??? If you answer yes to that, then you're an idiot
Every one and their mother know's that when Flaco do perform, he performs well BUT the past few years he's been having some serious issues and I hope he fix those issues because thats one of the cleanest sounding 3rotor on earth..
For the west coast guys,
since you fellas are on the topic of records and talking about the rest of guys will have to settle for 2nd place, how come Flaco never backed up his 209? If he was able to do it once, why can't he even come close to doing it a second time? In NHRA or any other sanctioning body, there's something call "back it up" and thats usually getting one run to try to come within 1% of your PB time to set the national record... We all acknolege the fact that he hold's both the 1/4 mile ET & MPH records in the mazda community BUT most people simply lost faith in him after that... It has been all hype with the "1700 hp" video and all that non sence, but nothing happen after that and I don't think he even qualified in the first race after he installed the new WG's..
Men any idiot will tell you that if Siguel wanted to chase records that Flaco's times would have been history with either ML or some other 20b.. They have the skill and technology to break and smash that record, but I think they're going after it with 1 less rotor to add salt to that wound
Im going to say something that will **** off alot of you West coast followers, IMO Abel is a cocky bastard!!!! Whenever you ask him about Siguel, he responds with "Siguel don't want non of this, Siguel don't want non of this" why is that?? Im my many years of import drag racing, I've never herd siguel or any of the other guys respond in that way when asked about Flaco... They always say how quick he is but he lacks the consistency, which everyone agrees with..
Another thing!!
Why is it that you guys bring weight into this discussion when we talk about PR cars?? Guys wake up!!!!!! this is not 6-7 years ago when PR had homemade chassis's with carbs and a dissy, this is the big leagues now and no one has time to run under weight!!
Why would you spend 100's of thousands to build a vehicle around specific set of guidelines and then at the end, you short change on the rules? La Atriveda, Pica, and other came to NHRA and ran under NHRA rules and still broke records, so don't know whats all the fuss about being under weight..
Guys just accept it, stop making excuses and tring to question everything... Those guys are quick, consistant, reliable and down to earth so just accept it because they're only going to get quicker.
closing argument,
Pac performace is the mack daddy of the 20b whether or not they hold the record..They got that title from their consistency with almost every run resulting in 7.1's-6.9's... Heck even M&M/ rotormaster runs consistant 7.1's-7.2's on their 3/4 chassis, stock firewall foward FD
Siguel and the rest of team PR is the overall kings of the rotary, whether you like it or not!!! Their setups are simple with everything store bought and available to anyone with a zipcode
Im fedup with this topic, it seems like you guys choose not to accept the proof thats displayed on here every wednesday night or in the pages at GRS... If you don't believe the results thats coming out of PR then what about the times at race tracks around the US and Australia.. If you wanna see more proof then come to Atco NJ on July 18th-20th and watch them go on the scales just like last year, but be sure to have your cameras out on Friday night because YOU WILL SEE A RECORD RUN!!!!!!!!!
Butter anyone?? sorry west coasters, it aint mexican flavor
j/kAnother thing, stop wondering on the forum and go out there are do your reasearch to make it happen for yourself!!
06-02-08, 11:33 AM
#28
no more nut swinging.......
I left you boys for a few hours while I get drunk over a stinking football "soccer" game with England beating Trinidad 3-0 and theres already a popcorn party in here!!! Im **** because I lost $50 when i bet that England would kill us 4-0 but they ended up only scoring 3 in our ***
Ok lets get down to the real matter at hand!!! Why all the smack talk from the boys from the west? The last thread was the same issue.. As soon as someone mention PR, you fellas get angry or starting questioning their accomplishments, why is that???
Mr Abel Flaco Ibarra has the record and no one is arguing that fact or tring to discredit him from it, but would you rate him as being the best builder/tuner in the world base soley on that??? If you answer yes to that, then you're an idiot
Every one and their mother know's that when Flaco do perform, he performs well BUT the past few years he's been having some serious issues and I hope he fix those issues because thats one of the cleanest sounding 3rotor on earth..
For the west coast guys,
since you fellas are on the topic of records and talking about the rest of guys will have to settle for 2nd place, how come Flaco never backed up his 209? If he was able to do it once, why can't he even come close to doing it a second time? In NHRA or any other sanctioning body, there's something call "back it up" and thats usually getting one run to try to come within 1% of your PB time to set the national record... We all acknolege the fact that he hold's both the 1/4 mile ET & MPH records in the mazda community BUT most people simply lost faith in him after that... It has been all hype with the "1700 hp" video and all that non sence, but nothing happen after that and I don't think he even qualified in the first race after he installed the new WG's..
Men any idiot will tell you that if Siguel wanted to chase records that Flaco's times would have been history with either ML or some other 20b.. They have the skill and technology to break and smash that record, but I think they're going after it with 1 less rotor to add salt to that wound
Im going to say something that will **** off alot of you West coast followers, IMO Abel is a cocky bastard!!!! Whenever you ask him about Siguel, he responds with "Siguel don't want non of this, Siguel don't want non of this" why is that?? Im my many years of import drag racing, I've never herd siguel or any of the other guys respond in that way when asked about Flaco... They always say how quick he is but he lacks the consistency, which everyone agrees with..
Another thing!!
Why is it that you guys bring weight into this discussion when we talk about PR cars?? Guys wake up!!!!!! this is not 6-7 years ago when PR had homemade chassis's with carbs and a dissy, this is the big leagues now and no one has time to run under weight!!
Why would you spend 100's of thousands to build a vehicle around specific set of guidelines and then at the end, you short change on the rules? La Atriveda, Pica, and other came to NHRA and ran under NHRA rules and still broke records, so don't know whats all the fuss about being under weight..
Guys just accept it, stop making excuses and tring to question everything... Those guys are quick, consistant, reliable and down to earth so just accept it because they're only going to get quicker.
closing argument,
Pac performace is the mack daddy of the 20b whether or not they hold the record..They got that title from their consistency with almost every run resulting in 7.1's-6.9's... Heck even M&M/ rotormaster runs consistant 7.1's-7.2's on their 3/4 chassis, stock firewall foward FD
Siguel and the rest of team PR is the overall kings of the rotary, whether you like it or not!!! Their setups are simple with everything store bought and available to anyone with a zipcode
Im fedup with this topic, it seems like you guys choose not to accept the proof thats displayed on here every wednesday night or in the pages at GRS... If you don't believe the results thats coming out of PR then what about the times at race tracks around the US and Australia.. If you wanna see more proof then come to Atco NJ on July 18th-20th and watch them go on the scales just like last year, but be sure to have your cameras out on Friday night because YOU WILL SEE A RECORD RUN!!!!!!!!!
Butter anyone?? sorry west coasters, it aint mexican flavor j/k
Another thing, stop wondering on the forum and go out there are do your reasearch to make it happen for yourself!!
Ok lets get down to the real matter at hand!!! Why all the smack talk from the boys from the west? The last thread was the same issue.. As soon as someone mention PR, you fellas get angry or starting questioning their accomplishments, why is that???
Mr Abel Flaco Ibarra has the record and no one is arguing that fact or tring to discredit him from it, but would you rate him as being the best builder/tuner in the world base soley on that??? If you answer yes to that, then you're an idiot
Every one and their mother know's that when Flaco do perform, he performs well BUT the past few years he's been having some serious issues and I hope he fix those issues because thats one of the cleanest sounding 3rotor on earth..
For the west coast guys,
since you fellas are on the topic of records and talking about the rest of guys will have to settle for 2nd place, how come Flaco never backed up his 209? If he was able to do it once, why can't he even come close to doing it a second time? In NHRA or any other sanctioning body, there's something call "back it up" and thats usually getting one run to try to come within 1% of your PB time to set the national record... We all acknolege the fact that he hold's both the 1/4 mile ET & MPH records in the mazda community BUT most people simply lost faith in him after that... It has been all hype with the "1700 hp" video and all that non sence, but nothing happen after that and I don't think he even qualified in the first race after he installed the new WG's..
Men any idiot will tell you that if Siguel wanted to chase records that Flaco's times would have been history with either ML or some other 20b.. They have the skill and technology to break and smash that record, but I think they're going after it with 1 less rotor to add salt to that wound
Im going to say something that will **** off alot of you West coast followers, IMO Abel is a cocky bastard!!!! Whenever you ask him about Siguel, he responds with "Siguel don't want non of this, Siguel don't want non of this" why is that?? Im my many years of import drag racing, I've never herd siguel or any of the other guys respond in that way when asked about Flaco... They always say how quick he is but he lacks the consistency, which everyone agrees with..
Another thing!!
Why is it that you guys bring weight into this discussion when we talk about PR cars?? Guys wake up!!!!!! this is not 6-7 years ago when PR had homemade chassis's with carbs and a dissy, this is the big leagues now and no one has time to run under weight!!
Why would you spend 100's of thousands to build a vehicle around specific set of guidelines and then at the end, you short change on the rules? La Atriveda, Pica, and other came to NHRA and ran under NHRA rules and still broke records, so don't know whats all the fuss about being under weight..
Guys just accept it, stop making excuses and tring to question everything... Those guys are quick, consistant, reliable and down to earth so just accept it because they're only going to get quicker.
closing argument,
Pac performace is the mack daddy of the 20b whether or not they hold the record..They got that title from their consistency with almost every run resulting in 7.1's-6.9's... Heck even M&M/ rotormaster runs consistant 7.1's-7.2's on their 3/4 chassis, stock firewall foward FD
Siguel and the rest of team PR is the overall kings of the rotary, whether you like it or not!!! Their setups are simple with everything store bought and available to anyone with a zipcode
Im fedup with this topic, it seems like you guys choose not to accept the proof thats displayed on here every wednesday night or in the pages at GRS... If you don't believe the results thats coming out of PR then what about the times at race tracks around the US and Australia.. If you wanna see more proof then come to Atco NJ on July 18th-20th and watch them go on the scales just like last year, but be sure to have your cameras out on Friday night because YOU WILL SEE A RECORD RUN!!!!!!!!!
Butter anyone?? sorry west coasters, it aint mexican flavor
j/kAnother thing, stop wondering on the forum and go out there are do your reasearch to make it happen for yourself!!
06-02-08, 12:27 PM
#30
InsaneRotaries.com
I say no more nut swinging allowed on PR cars, Get your own car out there and show us what YOU CAN DO! I will do the same, lets support the racers that are racing events and not talk down on them when they have problems, remember we all in here have something in comon.
Mexican, Shmexican who cares..all you bastards looks the same
<---jokey jokeThat was my last reply to this topic.... over and out captain
06-02-08, 12:54 PM
#32
Rotary Freak
with gas prices going up. who the hell could afford to buy methanol or vp c16??? up to 17 dollars a gallon for VP c16 in some places... people no need to keep talking about east vs west.. pound for pound P.R. is number 1... props to everyone in our sport. but P.R. has a serious passion for the sport and the rotary engine.. amazin on how they just find a way to put some serious numbers week to week, regardless of who it is.. one day is Siquel, next time is Falito, next time is colon motorsports and so on and so on.. no need to go crazy trying to catch those guys.. the bottom line is: is not about flaco or east vs west.. is about the accomplishments this little engine has produce, against all odds..
06-02-08, 02:43 PM
#33
InsaneRotaries.com
06-03-08, 10:07 PM
#35
it wont be the blue startlet(NAYELI)Gaby the chassis builder wants to get the starlet out of the track for good,they already got what they wanted(fastets 13B NHRA legal modified in the world)and how they got it?with a full metal body,no front chassis,no midplate,no race pack,no adjustable clutch,stock ford rear end(not a diamond or titanium alloy stuff)and in that 7.0 pass it wasnt running at full boost (39 PSI),at 45 PSI the starlet is making(i was told no to say it)The startlet is coming to USA and after that they wont race it anymore,The owner is building a modified legal RX8 that is gonna have NAYELIS heart and everything on the chassis,electronics and drivetrain is gonna be updated(adjustable clutch,race pack,rear end)that is one of the surprises and there is more comming
06-06-08, 01:39 PM
#38
InsaneRotaries.com
60ft- 1.071
330- 2.933
660- 4.489
660 mph-157.01
1000 ft-5.835
ET- 6.980
MPH- 196.00
"Mario Puglia already in the field, George Rehayem in the lane alongside him, Rehayem destroyed the gear box last night, can he get into the sixes? They leave hard, Puglia is coming on in the deep, Rehayem has run his six and improved his standing by a mile."
330- 2.933
660- 4.489
660 mph-157.01
1000 ft-5.835
ET- 6.980
MPH- 196.00
"Mario Puglia already in the field, George Rehayem in the lane alongside him, Rehayem destroyed the gear box last night, can he get into the sixes? They leave hard, Puglia is coming on in the deep, Rehayem has run his six and improved his standing by a mile."
06-06-08, 10:27 PM
#39
InsaneRotaries.com
3rd qualifing round.. Which other 20b who know that has ran back to back 6 second passes in qualifing?
RECT-0.619
60FT-1.075
330-2.928
660-4.463
660 MPH-161.52
1000-5.783
ET-6.912
MPH-198.68
RECT-0.619
60FT-1.075
330-2.928
660-4.463
660 MPH-161.52
1000-5.783
ET-6.912
MPH-198.68
06-07-08, 01:04 AM
#41
Awesome runs, they sure have that car dialed in.
Question. I keep hearing that the PR's are overall top dog when it comes to rotary drag racing but what about the Aussies? I think they hold just as many records no? I know they hold the records for fastest and quickest 12a and fastest and quickest untubbed small tire rotary and they also have the the most consistent 6 second rotary and have many 7 second rotaries too. Just wondering what the stats are vs eachother as I don't know. Either way both parties are doing awesome things with the rotary and continue to bump this little motor up.
Question. I keep hearing that the PR's are overall top dog when it comes to rotary drag racing but what about the Aussies? I think they hold just as many records no? I know they hold the records for fastest and quickest 12a and fastest and quickest untubbed small tire rotary and they also have the the most consistent 6 second rotary and have many 7 second rotaries too. Just wondering what the stats are vs eachother as I don't know. Either way both parties are doing awesome things with the rotary and continue to bump this little motor up.
06-07-08, 12:18 PM
#44
shut up you jack wagon
Ther's no way in hell that 12a rx3 is untubbed.Id like to see the trunk of that car,ther is no way you can put a 28/9.5in tire in a untubbed rx3.But the aussies do have lost of fast.oo and can you post a pic of that rx3,its hard to believe
06-07-08, 12:27 PM
#45
They said the same for a 2nd and 3rd gen rx7 and many including myself(28x10) have proven that wrong.
A 5 pound sledge will make anything fit!
06-07-08, 01:04 PM
#46
InsaneRotaries.com
06-07-08, 08:40 PM
#47
shut up you jack wagon
Yes i can see people's no no,But id never seen a 28/9.5 tire in a untubbed car.For a car that not turbbed it a big tire.I seen people tub a car and the tire ther useing is a 26/8in. Good for that rx3,then mayunesa better get going.
06-07-08, 09:03 PM
#49
InsaneRotaries.com
yeeeeee hawwwwwwwww
3 6 second passes in a row.... if they didn't damage the tranny in the 1st qualifing round then i'm sure they would have squeezed out another 6... this is freeking amazing
R/T- 0.485
60ft- 1.091
330- 2.923
660- 4.419
660 MPH- 163.87
1000- 5.737
ET- 6.869
MPH-198.50
"George Rehayem against Rob West, with the power on board for West he could quite easily suffer from tyre shake as Steven Ham did, whereas Rehayem should shoot out like a Pocket Rocket, West stutters off the line, and it just sounds like it has no power but Rehayem is off like a shot."
3 6 second passes in a row.... if they didn't damage the tranny in the 1st qualifing round then i'm sure they would have squeezed out another 6... this is freeking amazing
R/T- 0.485
60ft- 1.091
330- 2.923
660- 4.419
660 MPH- 163.87
1000- 5.737
ET- 6.869
MPH-198.50
"George Rehayem against Rob West, with the power on board for West he could quite easily suffer from tyre shake as Steven Ham did, whereas Rehayem should shoot out like a Pocket Rocket, West stutters off the line, and it just sounds like it has no power but Rehayem is off like a shot."
06-07-08, 11:39 PM
#50
InsaneRotaries.com
R/T- 0.407
60FT- 1.098
330- 3.198
660- 5.075
660 MPH- 125.35
1000- 6.967
ET- 8.817
MPH- 116.70
George Rehayem and Justin Walshe, Walshe will have to do the chasing, he did not hurt his index from the run before, if Rehayem wins this race then Otto will be the Australian Champion, its a nice leave for Rehayem but he seems to lose power about mid track, and Walshe powers on for the final and takes the win and damages his index for the next round.
60FT- 1.098
330- 3.198
660- 5.075
660 MPH- 125.35
1000- 6.967
ET- 8.817
MPH- 116.70
George Rehayem and Justin Walshe, Walshe will have to do the chasing, he did not hurt his index from the run before, if Rehayem wins this race then Otto will be the Australian Champion, its a nice leave for Rehayem but he seems to lose power about mid track, and Walshe powers on for the final and takes the win and damages his index for the next round.