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Old 03-06-14, 03:09 PM
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Few questions E85

What injectors are you guys running and fuel pumps?

I am currently running the siemens 2200's but they are low impedence.... I have a injector driver but if buying new injectors it just seems smart to buy the ev14's...

I am going to run 6-8 injectors on the new set up. Thinking four to six 2200's and two 1000's .

What pump? Weldon?

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Mike,
I will be running EV14's. A few FD owners down here are running them with no issues.
As far as pumps, it will be dual Bosch on a CJ hanger

I know of a few running the SX18203 fuel pump

Hope this helps
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why not 8 2200? they idle just fine.
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8x2200 is the way man
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Thanks guys. You think I will need 8? That's a **** ton of fuel! So what pump you guys using?
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We run a Mechanical Waterman pump with 8x2200cc Bosch. Idles beautifully. Do it now, before regretting it later. Rotaries are thirsty SOBs.
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i will be running 2x1000 and 4x2000 with the xsessive LIM. Dual walbro 485 in tanks. its been awhile since i checked but i believe its enough fuel for 900hp @ 85% DC
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I think you can get away with 6x2200's at your power level since 4x2200's will support around 600rwhp with high duty cycles. If you aim for north of 800, might be a good idea to go for 8x 2200's.

Probably need to go with a mechanical pump or dual/triple Bosch 044's. I've heard the dual Bosch pumps can handle 800rwhp on E85 but I don't have any proof. It would make sense since one can handle 400rwhp on E85. Mechanical would give you a lot more headroom.
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Originally Posted by Copeland
I think you can get away with 6x2200's at your power level since 4x2200's will support around 600rwhp with high duty cycles. If you aim for north of 800, might be a good idea to go for 8x 2200's.

Probably need to go with a mechanical pump or dual/triple Bosch 044's. I've heard the dual Bosch pumps can handle 800rwhp on E85 but I don't have any proof. It would make sense since one can handle 400rwhp on E85. Mechanical would give you a lot more headroom.
Sounds like 8 2200's is they way to go then. Still up in the air on a pump. Anyone have opinions on a big aeromotive or other external pump?
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Good for 800whp+. Proven as there is Multitude of people running 2 044's making decent numbers. I know of 2 people that has use the same 2 044's for 7+ yrs, going from Pump gas to c16 to q16 to e85 to e98. There's 101 ways to skin a cat. just my .02

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If it is a street car, 2 Bosch. If it is a race car only, go mechanical.
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Originally Posted by freddyrx3
If it is a street car, 2 Bosch. If it is a race car only, go mechanical.

My feelings also but whats wrong with the eliminator?
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Originally Posted by sk8world
My feelings also but whats wrong with the eliminator?
The Aeromotive Eliminator can't flow what the dual Bosch pumps can and the Eliminator is not as reliable.
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Bosch 044 for street/ mechanical or weldon for track.
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For the power you'll be at, this is a great electric solution. Mechanical would probably be a better idea though.

Holley Performance Products Dominator™ In-Line Billet Fuel Pump (Hi-Flow); Up to 1800 Horsepower EFI; Up to 2100 Horsepower Carb 12-1800

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From the Holley site. What does pressures up to 80 psi mean?

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What's the most power anyone's run with E85 in a rotary?

You can read about suggested octane value of E85, but it seems a little vague. Unsure if the fuel becomes a problem before block and 1-piece e-shaft or not...
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fuelab have some nice pumps too.
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I'm running 2 ev14 725cc and 4 ev14 2000cc with a dual Bosch 044 pumps. I run a 15gal fuel cell. 23 lbs 480hp mustang dyno aprox 75 injector duty cycle. I think you might want to run 8 inj. Just to be on the safe side.
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I tuned a car that made 829rwhp on e85 with 6xid2000, semi pp bw 480 1,32 a/r. Weldon 2035 pump
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Yep me thinks 6 x 2000 or 2200 is enough fuel. 8 is way over kill for the turbo you have.
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Originally Posted by sleeper7
Yep me thinks 6 x 2000 or 2200 is enough fuel. 8 is way over kill for the turbo you have.
Chuck is on my *** on this turbo...
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Sorry man. After trying many turbo's myself, I'll NEVER go with anything smaller then a T6 1.32 96/88 exhaust turbo if power was my goal. My motor is just a small secondary bridge and thinking about sending the exhaust wheel out to have it clipped to flow even more.


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