13B-RX3

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And dial down the power I have never seen a car spin so violently! It was spinning so bad the tires were smoking! I think i was more nervous than Enzo but the car sounded great!

justturbo2

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looking and sounding awsome.

RoTaRyBoYz

Come on men, can't we all get along?? We are all from the same place trying to achieve the same goal.

Viking War Hammer

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There's always going to be a hater. All you can do is ignore them....

enzo250

As soon as i get the video's i'll post them up myself..
I'm not scared, i wasn't the one with the camara so i don't have that footage...
IF you have it post it up it'll save me the time what do i care...

Actually since i don't know **** and your such a better tuner then me i'll offer you a deal..

Bring your blow thru super tuned car to the track and gather up as much cash as you can and line your car up next to mine and prove exactly how much you know or don't know... Since you know so much about internet hype..
To me your exactly that... HYPE...

I'll bring my car spitting and bogging and all..
I'll probably blow up so you don't have anything to worry about..

Be a man and stop your stupid *** kid bullshit..

SPEED_NYC

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hey Joey, I don't know what your problem is, but let me be the first to tell you that jealousy is a female trait and not atractive on a man.

every few months you come out of the woodwork and make a post bashing enzo, but you never have any positive input on this forum... I don't get why you even have an account here.

since you seem to like lists, i'll give the HONEST story behind the cars that I PERSONALLY know on your list.

1. roys 2nd gen and craked the rear iron on the intake side

yup, it did. you're absolutely right, but what you fail to mention is that Roys car was making OVER 980RWHP 4 years ago!! when you're pushing the 1000 whp mark on a 2 rotor, things do break. when you're one of the first handfull of ppl to do it, you keep trying difrent soloutions till you fix the issue. and lets be clear, roy was having mehanical parts failures when they tried to push past the 1000rwhp mark on a STOCK 13b shaft and rotors. tuning can't eliminate shaft flex on a perif motor at 11,000 rpm and 1000hp to the wheels.
so to sum it up, not tuner error, parts failures which is part of being a pioneer and pushing the hp envelope before 2 piece shafts and billet plates were ever on the market.

2. his bros 3rd gen
very similar answer as to #1. his bros car has always been a test bed for trying new ideas and testing theroys before implimenting them on customers cars. unless you want to be a follower all your life, you HAVE to constantly try new things and ALWAYS push past the limits of what people think an engine will take. his bros car has blown engines in the past, yes. I don't think anybody who owns a fast rotary can say they have never blown an engine.But what makes his brothers blown engines worth all the $$ and effort is the knowledge gained and end results. BECAUSE enzo experimented with his bros car being one of the first tuners in this country to push big boost through a rotary on E85, he has learned what a rotary can and cannot take on E85. In the process of teaching himself the unique tuning requirements of a rotary on E85, enzo and his brother managed to set a world record and became the fastest stock motored FD in the quarter mile. NOW enzo can offer E85 tuning to all of his customers, where as other tuners use paying customers cars as test mules, enzo used his brothers and mastered it. how is that a bad thing?

3. Fey Olvios R100 hey ask enzo who is working that car now..? the car is at another shop check the projects page in Grsmotorsports.com

Fey is a customer and good friend of all at enzo's shop. his car may be at another shop right now, but what's your point? Enzo runs a tuning shop, NOT a mechanic/chassis shop... race cars never get built at one location, a smart race car owner goes to the best chassis shop, then trailers to the best paint shop, then on the the best engine builder, then on to the best tuner. i thought this was common sense, but maybe you're not that bright. Fey is very happy with enzo's tuning on his car and has already called for an appt to bring it back in for some minor fab work and tuning at the end of this month. would you like me to call you and let you know when its back at the shop?

4. the white fd that claims to have mad 600 hp

this is where it gets a lil personal for me. I'm the owner of the white FD, and since you like to drop names, mine is ROAN don't forget it and feel free to ask about me, now that you know my name just don't call me outside of it.

and again, you are right, my car never made 600whp, it was 638.9 to the wheels bitch! it's on video and has been backed up on other dyno's, again... whats your point?

KNONFS

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Hey man, from a Boricua to a Boricua, please take it a notch down. I really don't care if you got beef with somebody or not, but PLEASE don't use our pride (Puerto Rico) when beefing with somebody.

Not only is inmature, but it gives us "other Puerto Ricans" a bad name

SPEED_NYC

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5. the evo with the chute on the back

i don't know much about evo's so i wont pretend to but i can confirm that that car has also blown an engine in its lifetime. i'm not at liberty to disclose exact #'s but i can tell you that that car was also flirting with the 100whp mark 3 years ago when it was unheard of for an evo to do so. that car while it looks like a million bucks is still a budget driven build by a working class guy. so since it hasn't made an 8.00 only means that the owner has other priorities in life and can't buy the suspension, and driveline parts that it takes to put a 1000whp 4 wheel drive car down the track right now.

6. they yellow 2nd gen from queens

don't know this car.. do you mean yellow first gen?

7. the red corado from p.r. Vitito...

you're kidding right? enzo flew to P.R., rewired this entire car with a mil spec harness, tuned the ecu and the car proceded to not only run a personal best, but become the fastest VW on the planet!!! in case you have trouble counting, thats 2 WORLD RECORDS SO FAR *****. that car unfortunately crashed a few months after enzo tuned it and unless you're gonna tell me that the fuel mixture had something to do with the driver loosing the car at the top end, that had nothing to do with enzo. that WORLD record still stands BTW.

8. and lets clarify 2 things Enzo does not work on or tune the starlet LA otra KAPE from p.r. does the mechanic work and drives it and tunes it... if you were at the fall nationals recently you would have know that and for those who dont believe check a few pages back on grs motorsports.com also

Enzo has never claimed to have tuned La Otra. that car has been to enzo's a few times for some work that the car owners want to keep private. I can tell you that the owner of La Otra is a happy customer of Enzo's and loves the work that was done on his car at the shop. since you wanna talk about fall nationals, why not mention the big enzo racing sticker that was on that car at the event? sounds like a happy customer to me. and as for you saying cars he touches don't run, what do you call 7.20's in a backhalved starlet? you wish you could have your name mentioned in the same conversation with cars that fast...

Slammedblk7

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I'm guessing this is someone you've had a run in with before?

SPEED_NYC

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9. OH ALSO WORD ON THE STREET IS THAT A WEEK OR 2 AGO MR BIG TUNER ENZO RAN 12 SEC AT THE TRACK AND BROKE THE MOTOR BUT HE FAIL TO TELL YOU GUYS THAT IN THE THREADS.. oh and so tell me do u think he got a stock motor to run 9.8 but his car 12s and a broken motor and fully built by the way

you aparently don't know what "shakedown passes" means. that was the first pass that car has ever made down a drag strip. most ppl would not have the ***** to post up in advance where they will be testing a new set-up let alone a brand new car. you act like theres something to be ashamed about in running a 12 sec pass while spinning past the half track mark. the car needs some refining and tweaking. sure if that car was built by a big name chassis shop and came with a 6 figure bill, we would have had 3 chassis specialists at the track to do suspension tuning and probably woul;d have had a better set-up off the trailer, but that car was built entirely in enzo's shop. by ppl that are teaching themselvs about suspension set-ups as they go. I personally respect that.

enzo250

My car is ready when you are. Let's do this Sunday toughguy.
Bring 10k with you punk.

SPEED_NYC

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and last thing joey, that white boy comment is ******* stupid. you make all Puerto Ricans look bad when you say **** like that. not that it matters, but I think enzo and his brother are the only 2 white rotary owners you ever see at that shop. rotary lovers come in all colors and nationalities, enzo does not discriminate. occasionaly he is the one discriminated against as small minded people like yourself don't trust the "white boy" to tune thier cars, as if being hispanic automatically gives you inherent rotary tuning skills. I wish it were true but we all know it's not. My Panamanian *** can't tune to save my life.

your public jealousy is embarassing, your ignorance is hysterical, but your last bid of racist nonsense lets me know exactly what kind of idiot you are.

let me ask you a question Joey, is all of this because enzo brushed you off 3 or was it 4 times when you were begging him to tune your first gen with the turbo webber set-up? you talk **** saying he can't tune because he's white, but you were begging him to tune your peice of ****. I was standing next to you on one of those occasions.

everything is not always what it seems. you clearly took it personal when nobody at the shop wanted anything to do with your POS car, its not that, we all love rotaries, it's you we didn't want anything to do with.

next time you drive by the shop and see all those brazilian and panamanian flags, realize that all those "white boys" at the shop speak spanish ******* and we knew what you were about from the first time you came by the shop and tried to talk **** to your boy and thought we didn't understand you.

SPEED_NYC

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why even race him. he's talking smack like he's got a fast car thinking someone on here will believe the hype. we know what you drive, y not post some vids of your car at the track or on the street... 30psi on pump gas with no intercooler? i thought you were an idiot, not you just removed any doubt.

all the fast meth drag cars are running intercoolers, so you think you sound like the smart guy when you say you're running 30psi on the street with no IC?? i'm done wasting my time on you

seriously, if i knew it was gonna hurt you're feelings this bad, i would have just asked enzo to tune your POS months ago as a personal favor to me.

Viking War Hammer

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ErnieT

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Hey Joey, Bring any street car down MIR and this white boy will whip its ***. Stop talking **** about Enzo. He contributes, unlike you. Everyone has blown motors tryin to push the envelope. Thats how you learn. Grow up.

Islander

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Grabs popcorn......

SPEED_NYC

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[QUOTE=joeyrotors;9571983]we just want the truth! im not talking **** its the truth ,QUOTE]

i just posted the truth about the cars in my 3 posts. we never denied that motors break, the diffrence is you think its something to be ashamed of, ppl like myself know its all part of learning when you push the envelope. ask any race legend how many motors they broke trying to set records and i'm sure they've lost count.

you never mentioned any customer street cars that he's tuned. those don't break. conservitave tune for the street and they run forever. even the 1200 whp viper street car is rock solid reliable, and the WORLD RECORD setting race boats that he flys to miami to tune. oh wait, sorry you probably don't know about the boats, you would have to actually leave the neighborhood to hear about that.

how about the 1500hp V8's? why is it that one of the country's most respected and exclusive V8 engine builders chooses enzo for all his engine tuning? how many of your customers get calls from John Force and have to call him back because enzo is in the middle of tuning one of his engines?

not to sound like a snob, but damn man, you're not even in the same world as him. stop embarrasing yourself.

finally, for the other ppl who have cared enough to read this, enzo is not perfect (suprise suprise) but i can tell you that he IS humble, most of the stuff that i brought up here i don't think he has ever mentioned on this forum, besides a random boat vid or 2. i don't want this to be seen as anything other than what it is, a customer wanting to set the record straight and using accomplishments that enzo would normally never mention himself.

SPEED_NYC

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i'm getting close to just closing this thread. but i'll give you a chance joey, what do you tune or build? post pics and description of what you've done, otherwise you're just a little kid that talks out his ***.

and nobody is getting mad at the truth. we are all in agreement that enzo has had motors blow before, i think you're getting mad because nobody thinks that it's a sign of incompetence. you thought yopu were coming on here to air dirty laundry or tell somebodys dirty little secret, but nobody cares, nobody is embarrased, we'll readily admit it because it was never a secret.. you would have never known if it was a secret stupid...

i'm getting mad because i don't like your attitude and your **** talking is unwaranted. but every time i think about how it must burn you up inside to see people doing what you can only dream of, it makes me smile thanks for the laughs looser

KNONFS

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Mera pescao, no sea arao y aprende a escribir, que aparte de modales, te falta educacion...

Its people like you that gives us a bad ******* name

enzo250

Dude get a clue... You don't know ****... I've been tuning all of jbe's cars for over a decade...

What's up with the race? Are you going to talk **** all nite but never once are you agreeing to a race. Put your money where your mouth is..

Bring your crop duster to the track and show us how good you are...
Until then you should shut the **** up because nothing else you say will make any difference.

ErnieT

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He took a vacation

RoTaRyBoYz

As an outsider, I can attest to Enzo's fabication and tuning skills... The man is extremely skilled at what he does and he's surprisingly humble for a man of his caliber. His attention to detail is 2nd to none, if you don't believe me, just have a look at his FC or one of his mil-spec wiring looms- He is ah boss!!! (trini language :-D)
He also did incredible things with Roy's car when MANY Puerto Ricans said "a PP-Turbo will never work"

Roan mentioned the 1500hp V8's & Vipers but that's nothing compared to a 150+mph skater... If Zule trust him behind one of his motors, then Enzo is dam well capable of tuning just about anything!

Also everyone in PR runs the same combo besides team Sporty and Juny performance... Holly style TB with no IC is the usual in PR, but Sporty took a different approach and he has 2 world records. Juny also took a different approach and he's making more power than any other 13b on the planet. Not only is he making more power, he has a fastest 13b 1/8 mile record to date. Austraila also runs their own "non PR inspired" combo and they are currently the world's fastest rotary.

The point is, every car is different and every builder/tuner has his own way on doing things... They all take different approaches but in the end, they are all basically making the same power.

ps. Everyone breaks motors... You think the PR guys don't break motors? Bro I was narrow minded like you once upon a time, but now that I'm more involved I can tell you that those guys are human just like every other tuner on the planet... $hit breaks no matter who is behind the controls.

When you're ready to get your a$$ handed to you by the "spitting and bogging" white FC just let me know so I can walk with the GRS cameras.

The sad part is this Joey guy works in Enzo's area and he's creating all this drama... Joey you're lucky Enzo is a calm guy because if it was me, I would have probably beaten you with an old radiator hose.

ultimatejay

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Wow, so did Enzo bone this guy's girlfriend or what?

13B-RX3

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I talked to Roy on the phone earlier and was planning on laying the smack down on this kid but the truth of the matter is that Enzo doesn't need anyone to stick up for him. All of his accomplishments speak for them self and anyone who has spent more than an hour on the forum can see that this honkey is good at what he does. I have always respected him for questioning "the norm" and thinking outside the box. If you go with a cookie cutter setup and a cookie cutter tune you are going to get cookie cutter results. Everyone should be thanking him for pushing the limits and sharing his experiences so they don't have to make the same mistakes. If you think you are hurting his business Joey guess again. If anything they should change the name of this thread to "if you think Enzo is great raise your hand". I am sure there are more people willing to go to bat for him than you know!

RoTaRyBoYz

You know what really pissed me off?? The fact where the doubted the white FD's HP #'s

Come on men, I know he's hard to believe a 600hp car could only manage 13's, but don't blame Enzo.. blame the driver